On 4/30/26 9:02 AM, Jay Morris wrote:
On 4/30/2026 9:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 5:56 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
The crackers did not crack the 1024 bit public key / private key
encryption in my software.˙ In fact, one of them actually sent me an >>>>>> email about how hard it was to crack.˙ Instead, they managed to
find the
public key in my software and replace it with their own public key >>>>>> for
supplying their own passwords with their own private keys.˙ That path >>>>>> will not happen again.
Kevin Mitnick says that one out of every three office whiteboards
has a
password on it.
That was 40 years ago?
Probably around then.˙ Two-factor systems have improved things some, but >>> not very much.
And if you call someone and tell them you're from the IT department
and you
want him to click on this web form, they will invariably do it.
It's not a computer problem, it's a people problem.
--scott
Back in the early 2000s at the Air Force base where I worked the
cybersecurity folks created a fake base IT support address and sent
the standard "Hi! We're your friendly IT folks and we need your
password." email and sent it out to 30,000 plus folks. All of whom had
taken the annual cybersecurity training of course. Over 2000 replied
with their passwords.
Were these passwords tested to see if they were
real or fake?˙ That makes a big difference and
would prove security noncompliance if it were
real.
Do you see a special security problem with
sending a fake password insecurely (as in
an email)?
On Sun, 03 May 2026 13:02:50 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
How can you possibly write a book about the nuclear destruction of
mankind and NOT have it involve politics in some way?
Things it would be too crazy to contemplate:
* A future political party which takes the position that people should
be free to kill themselves with nuclear bombs -- it?s an individual
decision.
Though I suspect that seems fractionally less implausible than it did
ten years ago ...
The USian ?superhero?? genre involves protagonists with powers beyond
those of ordinary humans, going up against ?supervillains?? who also
have similar powers, but use them for evil rather than good.
How can you possibly write a book about the nuclear destruction of
mankind and NOT have it involve politics in some way?
Alas, Babylon
Do you see a special security problem with
sending a fake password insecurely (as in
an email)?
No, but having worked IT help desk and system support I find it more
likely that they replied with the actual password rather than attempting
to screw with the sender.
On Sun, 3 May 2026 22:29:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiropowers beyond
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
The USian ?superhero?? genre involves protagonists with
?supervillains?? who alsothose of ordinary humans, going up against
have similar powers, but use them for evil rather than good.
That sounds like the Legion of SuperHeroes who were constantly
fighting super-villains.
(To be fair I last read those in my teens which was before some of you
here were born)
On Sun, 3 May 2026 21:33:21 -0500, Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me>
wrote:
Do you see a special security problem with
sending a fake password insecurely (as in
an email)?
No, but having worked IT help desk and system support I find it more
likely that they replied with the actual password rather than attempting
to screw with the sender.
I probably WOULD respond to such a request telling them my password
was UOYKCUF
On Sun, 3 May 2026 22:22:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 03 May 2026 13:02:50 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
How can you possibly write a book about the nuclear destruction of
mankind and NOT have it involve politics in some way?
Things it would be too crazy to contemplate:
* A future political party which takes the position that people should
be free to kill themselves with nuclear bombs -- it?s an individual
decision.
Though I suspect that seems fractionally less implausible than it did
ten years ago ...
An individual decision? Besides the high Arctic where else in the
world is the population density such that a nuke would only kill one
person?
On 4/27/26 13:15, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 4/26/2026 1:10 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 4/26/26 10:49, Nuno Silva wrote:
On 2026-04-26, Scott Dorsey wrote:
But it goes way beyond sex... if you look at the most-banned books in >>>>> school libraries, the absolute record for bans is held by Stephen King. >>>>What.
I'm not questioning your statement, I'm more... contemplating the
absurdity of that.
Ah well, good job, Helen...
(Helen Lovejoy)
Yes, he does address sexuality in some of his books but not in any way >>>>> that would encourage anyone to have sex.
[...]
I grew up as a queer kid in an era where there were really no books out >>>>> there about being queer... not just sexually but socially.˙ Meaning I >>>>> grew up pretty much without any good role models.˙ That's a
terrible thing
for a kid... my friend and I knew we weren't gay because gay
people were
like Liberace and we certainly weren't like that,˙ Kids need to see the >>>>> wide range of humanity otherwise they grow up thinking that
everybody is
just like them... or even worse they grow up thinking that nobody
is like
them.
And that's one thing some people seem so intent on fighting, to prevent >>>> access to such information, access that'd mean less people have to grow >>>> up in a bubble that limits or harms them. And that's a terrible thing to >>>> do to children, I'd argue?
˙˙˙˙˙To some folks Ignorance is a sheild.˙ That is their mistaken belief. >>> I was queer because of reading a lot and reading SF and related materials >>> in the 1950s made me even queerer.˙ So queer that in my HS yearbook
I was referenced as a Martian.
˙˙˙˙˙Denying the kids sexual education did not work in the 1950s to
keep them safe from abusing pedophiles.˙ Referencing Stranger
Danger did not work with bad Dads, Uncles, Cousins, Brothers,
weird Mothers, Sisters and Pastors.˙ iT was fine for the seducers
with candy and vans, who might have mislaid a puppy or kitten.
˙˙˙˙˙The 1940s and 1950s were a swamp of prudery about sex
and diseases like cancer.˙ Sex education in a RC HIgh School
included the dangers of promiscuity such as horrid diseases.
˙˙˙˙˙bliss - wholly terrestrial
Diseases like Polio.˙ My 1938 father was a year or two younger than
you Bobbie.˙ He was cautioned throughout the 1940s and 1950s about
touching other people and catching Polio, so much that he could not
hug people in his later years.˙ I hugged him last summer before he
passed away and he almost freaked out.˙ He grew up in College
Station, Texas, a hotbed of Polio with all of the college students
at Texas A&M.
We take so much for granted nowadays.
Lynn
On that we can agree Lynn. Maybe the Polio training got to
me. my mother and stepfather. But the swimming pools were
closed until there was a Polio case. On the other hand I may have
acquired Rheumatic Fever one summer at a pool in Yuba City.
We did not have clear diagnosis in those days of such
but i was sick for several weeks. And my doctor made a house
call.
So many diseases to catch when I was young and I got
them. Aside from Mumps. I had measles both sorts and
since my economic class did not know much about allergies
I had various Upper Respiratory things happening all the
time.
The anti-vax crew will be in some emotional pain when
their children start suffering.
˙˙˙˙On that we can agree Lynn. Maybe the Polio training got to
me. my mother and stepfather.˙ But the swimming pools were
closed until there was a Polio case. On the other hand I may have
acquired Rheumatic Fever one summer at a pool in Yuba City.
˙˙˙˙We did not have clear diagnosis in those days of such
but i was sick for several weeks.˙ And my doctor made a house
call.
˙˙˙˙So many diseases to catch when I was young and I got
them. Aside from Mumps.˙ I had measles both sorts and
since my economic class did not know much about allergies
I had various Upper Respiratory things happening all the
time.
˙˙˙˙The anti-vax crew will be in some emotional pain when
their children start suffering.
˙˙˙˙bliss
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
On 5/28/2026 12:29 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against >>>>> some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
This chart shows at least 36 shots by age 18. It is a bit
maximalist.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/28/2026 12:29 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is >>>>>> that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against >>>>>> some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
This chart shows at least 36 shots by age 18. It is a bit
maximalist.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
That's also just 15 distinct vaccines. At such a young age,
the dosage required to provide minimum immunity would be far
too large, so they are spread out over several years.
It's not close to the 63 vaccines by age 2 that Lynn claimed.
From your cite:
"The childhood vaccine schedule includes 15 different immunizations
(shots or drops). Some vaccines protect against more than one disease.
Some require more than one dose."
This chart shows at least 36 shots by age 18. It is a bit
maximalist.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
On 5/28/2026 4:27 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/28/2026 12:29 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is >>>>>>> that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against >>>>>>> some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3. >>>>>>Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
This chart shows at least 36 shots by age 18. It is a bit
maximalist.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
That's also just 15 distinct vaccines. At such a young age,
the dosage required to provide minimum immunity would be far
too large, so they are spread out over several years.
It's not close to the 63 vaccines by age 2 that Lynn claimed.
From your cite:
"The childhood vaccine schedule includes 15 different immunizations
(shots or drops). Some vaccines protect against more than one disease. >> Some require more than one dose."
The last child immunization schedule that I saw had about 6 or 8 covid >vaccinations on it. This schedule has:
newborn: 2
2 month: 6
4 month: 5
6 month: 8
12 month: 3
15 month: 3
18 month: 1
total: 28
4 year: 4
12 year: 3
16 year: 1
total: 8
This schedule is significantly reduced from the last schedule I saw.
Several covid vaccinations are missing.
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/28/2026 12:29 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is >>>>>> that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against >>>>>> some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
Do take anything Lynn writes with a grain of salt.
The number is closer to 11 vaccines - some of which are
given in small doses over several months or years.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
MMR, for example, covers three diseases with a single poke.
This chart shows at least 36 shots by age 18. It is a bit
maximalist.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
That's also just 15 distinct vaccines. At such a young age,
the dosage required to provide minimum immunity would be far
too large, so they are spread out over several years.
It's not close to the 63 vaccines by age 2 that Lynn claimed.
From your cite:
"The childhood vaccine schedule includes 15 different immunizations
(shots or drops). Some vaccines protect against more than one disease.
Some require more than one dose."
We are free here in the USA. I know that is a foreign concept in New
Zealand.
Freedom meant being able to declare the
entire country COVID-19-free for large parts
of 2020 and 2021. Freedom meant being able to
organize what was the largest musical festival
in the world during that time, without fear
of spreading disease, while much of the rest
of the world (including the USA) was huddling
in that strange contradictory mix of fear and
denial that you do so well.
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
Are you going to go to their home with a gun and seize the children and >vaccinate them?
We are free here in the USA. I know that is a foreign concept in New >Zealand.
Yeah, look at the list of disease effects that the vaccines protect
from:
Human papillomavirus (HPV)
Genital warts, cancer (including cancer of the cervix, mouth and throat).
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
There are all kinds of anti-vaxxers, from people who don't want to take
the covid vaccine because it was too new, to people like the man who has
come to our city council meetings for the last two decade claiming that
if parents beat their children more the children would not be hanging out with sick people and getting diseases. It is all over the map.
And there are a lot of people who don't trust scientists, and a whole lot more people today who don't trust doctors. This is almost entirely an American phenomenon too.
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
There are, that's part of the problem. Some of them have become extremely rare, and vaccines help keep them that way. But because they are so effective and diseases like whooping cough and typhus have become so rare, people forget about how important they are.
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
I hated it. But then I got chicken pox in college and it was one of the worst experiences ever. Now that there is a vaccine for chicken pox I strongly recommend getting it.
I also may be biased in that my wife has hearing in only one ear, thanks to childhood scarlet fever.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you going to go to their home with a gun and seize the children and
vaccinate them?
We are free here in the USA. I know that is a foreign concept in New
Zealand.
If we are not free, then it must be our own choice because,
according to The Economist, we are one of the world's twenty or
twenty one Democracies, unlike the USA which is classified as a
Flawed Democracy.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:out
On Thu, 28 May 2026 07:33:57 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D=B4Oliveiro >><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2026 14:01:49 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
What I have been finding out, since I know a few antivaxer moms, is
that anti-vaxers are not against all vaccines. They are just against
some vaccines and they against the 63 ??? vaccines by age 2 or 3.
There are all kinds of anti-vaxxers, from people who don't want to take
the covid vaccine because it was too new, to people like the man who has
come to our city council meetings for the last two decade claiming that
if parents beat their children more the children would not be hanging
with sick people and getting diseases. It is all over the map.lot
And there are a lot of people who don't trust scientists, and a whole
more people today who don't trust doctors. This is almost entirely an >American phenomenon too.extremely
Should children be left to get sick and die before then?
I think the point is that that is a heck of a lot of vaccines. Are
there /really/ that many childhood diseases?
There are, that's part of the problem. Some of them have become
rare, and vaccines help keep them that way. But because they are so >effective and diseases like whooping cough and typhus have become sorare,
people forget about how important they are.to
I'll bet the kids get tired of being poked on a regular recurring
basis as well.
I hated it. But then I got chicken pox in college and it was one of the >worst experiences ever. Now that there is a vaccine for chicken pox I >strongly recommend getting it.
I also may be biased in that my wife has hearing in only one ear, thanks
childhood scarlet fever.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you going to go to their home with a gun and seize the children and
vaccinate them?
We are free here in the USA. I know that is a foreign concept in New >>Zealand.
This is the problem, because you're free to do many things in the US
but you aren't free to go out and shoot someone because that would
infringe on their freedoms.
Public health issues are like that. If you want to be diseased, that is--
your business, but when you risk making others diseased, you are
infringing on their freedom.
In the 19th century this was actually a big thing up for debate and the
case of Typhoid Mary is worth looking at because it was really the first
to bring those issues up into public view.
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Yeah, look at the list of disease effects that the vaccines protect
from:
[many diseases deleted here]
Human papillomavirus (HPV)
Genital warts, cancer (including cancer of the cervix, mouth and throat).
Is HPV actually a required vaccine now? It probably should be since it is endemic in the American population and everyone my age has been exposed to it and is likely carrying it. And it's got some pretty horrible consequences even though the actual probability of them is not great. But I never hear about people getting it.
--scott
Take the quoted. We've lived in our house for
a couple, three years, and *still* haven't met
neighbors more than a house away from ours. And
yet in the quoted I was apparently one - the
plurality implied in the word 'you' - with
over 300 million others in "our" huddling,
fear, and denial.
On Fri, 29 May 2026 11:26:47 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
Take the quoted. We've lived in our house for
a couple, three years, and *still* haven't met
neighbors more than a house away from ours. And
yet in the quoted I was apparently one - the
plurality implied in the word 'you' - with
over 300 million others in "our" huddling,
fear, and denial.
I've lived in the same house since 1991 and
know my neighbor on one side reasonably well
(our eldest daughter is now 38 and have lived
there since she was 5) and our neighbor on the
other side (who has only been there 3-4 years)
somewhat well but don't really know the rest
of the street. (We live on a major bus route
with a park across the street from us) On the
other hand due to having 'inherited' my late
wife's dog, I've come to know the "doggie"
people on our street.
There's one guy with a camper on a truck who we
THINK lives on our block but for whatever reason
moves his camper up and down the street 2-3
times a week. Having never seen anyone enter or
exit the camper I don't think anybody's living
in it.
There's one guy with a camper on a truck who we THINK lives on our
block but for whatever reason moves his camper up and down the street
2-3 times a week. Having never seen anyone enter or exit the camper I
don't think anybody's living in it.
In case you're wondering what the offense is, from Wikipedia:
"A speculative fictional account, it depicts the destruction of Western >civilization through Third World mass immigration to France and the
Western world. "
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