On 28 Oct 2025, Ogg said the following...

** On Saturday 25.10.25 - 22:48, multiplemiggs wrote to Dumas Walker:

I experienced the same thing with CB radio. There was a
group of probably 30 of us within range at any given time.
When the internet took off that group shrank fast to a
point where there were hardy any regular users 1997-98

Why would the introduction of internet affect people who are
invested in CB radio?

ever found someone in real life that used to call bbses when they were in their prime? i'd bet a lot of them wouldn't be interested in connecting to them again. because it was a means to an end. like having a car phone before there were cellulars that fit in your pocket. they just don't care about the bbs aspect of it at all, because something better replaced it. and that's specifically considering that they would have experienced bbsing "at it's best" with countless users..

CB was just like that really. and for the most part the people i still hear on CB radio are there for the same reason we're here on BBSes now. some sort of "meta" experience where both the purpose of the BBS (communication) and the act of using a BBS are meaningful to us.

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Re: Re: ANSI art
By: fusion to Ogg on Thu Oct 30 2025 03:26 pm

ever found someone in real life that used to call bbses when they were in their prime? i'd bet a lot of them wouldn't be interested in connecting to them again. because it was a means to an end. like having a car phone before there were cellulars that fit in your pocket. they just don't care about the bbs aspect of it at all, because something better replaced it. and that's specifically considering that they would have experienced bbsing "at it's best" with countless users..

I can understand that, and I was sort of like that myself when the internet started to become popular, and then when I saw that my BBS was barely getting any users anymore in 2000. I figured people generally stopped using BBSes because most people now had access to the internet, with so much more things easily available. In 2007, I found that BBSes were still around (and on the internet); I was surprised, but I also thought it was pretty cool that BBSes were still around. Even though the internet basically provides everything BBSes did and more, I think BBSes get a lot less of the ads & spam that we see elsewhere on the internet. BBSes also provide a simpler user interface, which can potentially translate into a simpler overall experience.

Also, BBSes tended to have a local user community due to avoiding long-distance phone charges, though that doesn't really happen much anymore with BBSes being on the internet.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: ANSI art
By: fusion to Ogg on Thu Oct 30 2025 03:26 pm

ever found someone in real life that used to call bbses when they were in their prime? i'd bet a lot of them wouldn't be interested in connecting to

Yeah... me. I started calling BBSes in 1983, put my own BBS online in Jan 84, joined FidoNet in 1987, left Fidonet in 1997, put my BBS back up on the internet in 1999 and it is still running...

Oops... somehow my dumbass just changed the Subj... o well.

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Re: Re: ANSI art
By: fusion to Ogg on Thu Oct 30 2025 03:26 pm

ever found someone in real life that used to call bbses when they
were in their prime? i'd bet a lot of them wouldn't be interested
in connecting to them again. because it was a means to an end. like
having a car phone before there were cellulars that fit in your
pocket. they just don't care about the bbs aspect of it at all,
because something better replaced it. and that's specifically
considering that they would have experienced bbsing "at it's best"

yeah i tried to get bbs people back into bbses and they are done.
they will take a look but it's not the same as it was.

i get that but a lot of sysops dont process it that way.
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fusion wrote to Ogg <=-

ever found someone in real life that used to call bbses when they were
in their prime? i'd bet a lot of them wouldn't be interested in
connecting to them again.

My BBS was a dial-up ghost town until I moved over to telnet. I tried
convincing some of my old callers to try telnetting in; most did, a
call or two, then stopped.

The overriding sentiment was that there was momentum back then and it
became a part of their routines. Once dial-up went away, the internet
replaced it and it was difficult to get back into it.

CB was just like that really. and for the most part the people i still hear on CB radio are there for the same reason we're here on BBSes now. some sort of "meta" experience where both the purpose of the BBS (communication) and the act of using a BBS are meaningful to us.

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Nightfox wrote to fusion <=-

Also, BBSes tended to have a local user community due to avoiding long-distance phone charges, though that doesn't really happen much anymore with BBSes being on the internet.

True, and having meetups made a huge difference in humanizing the user
on the other end of the line. I recall two users who were scathing
towards each other online, constantly. They met at one of the meetups,
eyed each other for an uncomfortable amount of time, shook hands, and
ended up talking most of the night.


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Re: ANSI art
By: MRO to Retroswim on Tue Jul 15 2025 10:08 pm

Re: ANSI art
By: Retroswim to Lord Raptor on Wed Jul 16 2025 02:42 am

https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools

It has TheDraw font support, and half-block drawing like Moebius, but builds on it with layers+channels ala PhotoShop, SIXEL support, LUA plugins, and more! Highly recommend.

yeah it's not bad. i like how it shows previews of the fonts.
i forgot which ones i made custom.

i'm not so sure i would use all those fancy features.
i still prefer a full screen interface for drawing ansi. not that i draw ansi anymore.

Moebius works well on windows if you want to do some ANSI art in a full screen environment.
Bob,
telnet://ricksbbs/synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080

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Re: ANSI art
By: Bobby Patton to MRO on Wed Nov 12 2025 03:15 pm

i'm not so sure i would use all those fancy features. i still prefer
a full screen interface for drawing ansi. not that i draw ansi
anymore.

Moebius works well on windows if you want to do some ANSI art in a
full screen environment. Bob, telnet://ricksbbs/synchro.net:23

i dont like the interface for moebius.
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Re: ANSI art
By: MRO to Bobby Patton on Wed Nov 12 2025 11:33 pm

Re: ANSI art
By: Bobby Patton to MRO on Wed Nov 12 2025 03:15 pm

i'm not so sure i would use all those fancy features. i still prefer
a full screen interface for drawing ansi. not that i draw ansi anymore.

Moebius works well on windows if you want to do some ANSI art in a
full screen environment. Bob, telnet://ricksbbs/synchro.net:23

i dont like the interface for moebius.

ok
Bob,
telnet://ricksbbs/synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080

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