• Which VPN?

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Fri Jul 14 20:51:28 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Thu Jul 13 2023 04:55 pm


    Isn't part of the point of BitTorrent to help you get the most speed by conn >
    ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have and > Ar> smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.

    I haven't heard this, but I'd think that rather than ISPs complaining about >
    And they don t care if you are sued or whatever because most likely you > Ar> are going to have to hire an ISP anyway.

    What do you mean by "hire" here?


    Precisely, BitTorrent is about maximizing your capability of getting files, notabout being nice to the network infrastructure.

    Infrastructure overselling is ubicuous in lots of fields. For example, water supplies in a condo are not prepared to satisty the sum of the nominal target preasures of every tap in the building. If you open all the taps in a condo at once you will find you don't get much water out of each. The reason is that whoever designs the water distribution system oversells water supply capacity and assumes only a percentage of users will open their taps at a given moment of the day.

    This also applies to power distribution.

    And yes, if you misscalculate and oversell so much that your system crumbles under the load, it is your fault for doing a bad estimation and you should fix it. Still, a user leaving all his taps open to the max all day would be nevertheless a bad neighbor.

    Hiring an ISP here would mean getting an Internet Subscription.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Sat Jul 15 13:41:56 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Fri Jul 14 2023 08:51 pm

    likely you are going to have to hire an ISP anyway.

    What do you mean by "hire" here?

    Hiring an ISP here would mean getting an Internet Subscription.

    Ah. Generally I don't hear people say they "hire" an ISP.

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Sat Jul 15 17:31:54 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sat Jul 15 2023 01:41 pm

    Ah. Generally I don't hear people say they "hire" an ISP.

    In Spain you "hire" an ISP. What you don't do is get an "ADSL Subscription" from an ISP. XD

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Sun Jul 16 00:10:17 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Arelor to Phigan on Thu Jul 13 2023 12:37:20

    From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just downloading a file

    More than the bulk of people using Netflix or YouTube? I mean, yeah it's async service at the user level, but the connections at the ISP are generally duplex connections. My understanding is that streaming video is the *VAST* majority of network traffic. Torrents are a bit more bursty, but that can be throttled via QOS. Not to mention that torrents are often better compressed content than streaming video, for compatibility with legacy streaming devices.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 16 04:33:21 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Tracker1 to Arelor on Sun Jul 16 2023 12:10 am

    More than the bulk of people using Netflix or YouTube? I mean, yeah it's as > . Torrents are a bit more bursty, but that can be throttled via QOS. Not t >

    When you stream a video from a server, you make a limited and contained number of connections to that server.

    A Bittorrent client tends to generate a connection to every peer it can find, and generates periodic broadcast traffic. Those are lots of intermitent connections that come and go. A stream from Netflix that uses all of your bandwidth uses less new connections than a torrent download that uses all your bandwidth. Every connection has to go into the packet filter before the routinggear can place it on fastrack (if using paket filters) and then certain QoS
    disciplines tend to starve when required to work with multiple simultaneous connections.

    My home uplink is quite limited and the difference shows. Youtubing max speed generates less impact on the rest of the LAN users than torrenting. None of them maks the network unusable for the other users, but you do notice when somebody is trying to torrent anything.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Jul 16 06:41:48 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Arelor to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 16 2023 04:33 am

    A Bittorrent client tends to generate a connection to every peer it can find, and generates periodic broadcast traffic. Those are lots of intermitent connections that come and go. A stream from Netflix that uses

    there are set limits to this in every client to optomize the download and seeding.
    it does not max out a computer or networks abilities.

    My home uplink is quite limited and the difference shows. Youtubing max speed generates less impact on the rest of the LAN users than torrenting. None of them maks the network unusable for the other users, but you do notice when somebody is trying to torrent anything.


    that's probably because of the outgoing connections. and your connection
    and network probably sucks.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Sun Jul 16 18:52:06 2023
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jul 16 2023 06:41 am

    that's probably because of the outgoing connections. and your connection and network probably sucks.

    Yes, my home connection sucks. This is public knowledge.

    Some people changes their torrent client settings to non-nice mode, which is where problems lay.

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  • From Xanth@VERT/DECKHVN2 to HusTler on Mon Nov 13 23:33:20 2023
    You need to decide on your own. Read this top to bottom then compare to what you've learned recently then pay anonymously. https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/
    -Xanth

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  • From khanzain@VERT to HusTler on Wed May 1 01:23:42 2024
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to khanzain on Wed May 1 06:43:00 2024
    khanzain wrote to HusTler <=-

    Hi there! In terms of VPN services, the choice often depends on
    individual needs such as security features, speed, server locations,
    and pricing. However, as a <a href="https://iqratechnology.com/hire-php-developer/">software developer</a>, I prioritize VPNs that offer robust encryption
    protocols, reliable performance, and compatibility with various
    operating systems and devices. Services like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, and CyberGhost are popular choices among developers due to their strong security measures, wide server network, and user-friendly interfaces. Ultimately, the best VPN service for software development will be one
    that aligns with your specific requirements and provides a seamless experience for secure coding, collaboration, and testing.

    Hi, Khanzain, ChatGPT much?

    :)



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  • From Philip@VERT/DMINE to Nightfox on Mon Jun 24 17:46:52 2024
    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Nightfox to Phigan on Mon Jul 03 2023 10:01 am

    Re: Which VPN?
    By: Phigan to Hustler on Mon Jul 03 2023 08:44 am

    - Using torrents or similar file-sharing type services on a network tha blocks them (public hotspots sometimes) or simply from a network other

    When you use those VPN services, they know what your originating IP is, what your destination IP is, and what kind of traffic you're sending to that destination. It's the same stuff that your ISP would know if you weren't using the VPN. I'm not sure what difference it makes which one them has that information. You're already paying your ISP, so unless yo have some reason not to trust them, why would you go trust some other rando any more than them?

    If you do any torrenting, some ISPs actively monitor torrent activity, where ISP with that information..

    Nightfox



    I agree in that I believe most western ISPs (US, Canada, UK etc.) cooperate with law enforcement if that's your concern. They are, as mentioned, good for viewing content blocked in your region. They're not going to keep the FBI el al off your doorstep.

    pk
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