Scott Street wrote to Bj”rn Wiberg <=-

Good luck getting support, G00r00 hasn't been seen in over a year now.

Makes me wonder why you Mystic people put up with that.

Bugs not being fixed, no new features or tweaks...

Synchronet for the win. ;-)




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Hey Scott!

On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 09:18:20 -0400, you wrote:

a) it tried to be everything - BBS, Mailer, Tosser/Packer,
Scheduler... etc. Would have been much better to just be the BBS.

You can enable/disable each and every one of those things you listed, and turn it into "just a BBS" if you want to. All of those features were requested by many sysops over the years, and were also alpha and beta tested by many (probably less than the first mention of the many that requested them) for years after they were added.

b) Not open source; this is minor in the grand scheme if the developers support the product actively, but if said developers decide to abandon
the project - I would have liked them to make arrangements to "pass the torch" as it where.

IIRC, he tried open sourcing it quite some time ago (over a decade now, probably), which led to a lot more problems than he cared to deal with, so he closed it back up. It's been his work, and only his work for over 30 years. I highly doubt he is going to pass the torch unless/until he is completely done with it.

If you don't agree with how he manages his own software, there are other open source BBS software projects - maybe even ones that don't have the features you
don't seem to like - out there for you to get involved with.

Regards,
Nick

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On 02 Sep 2025, Scott Street said the following...

I do hope he comes back to Mystic; however, I'm, sadly, moving on. I wish G00R00 had, at least, allowed some select developers continue to
work on the code base. Alas, my requests have never gotten a reply.

Unfortunately, due to work, he disappears quite frequently. The old Timers
will remember I believe pre-alpha a39 was around for a couple of years before he updated it. Then he was busy updating it going through A40-A48 in a couple of years time. The latest A49 is a pre-alpha and is known to have many bugs in it. Unfortunately, as you see he is away again I believe he said right after A49 was made available it had a lot of issues. If you want to give Mystic another shot, install A48. I have been running it for probably 2 years now, and
it runs fine.

I am not sticking up for g00r00 here, I agree a couple of competent
programmers along with him could get updates done much quicker, but unfortunately this leads to more issues.. If anyone knows the old Commodore 128
version of C-Net BBS, they will know there has been around 8 different programmers who worked on it, todays version from 2016 is a total disaster! If it was one programmer then there would be a lot less issues. Image BBS for the C64 was done by 6 different programmers, 4 of them programmed it together for the most part, and 2 worked and left relatively quickly so it's been the same programmers since 1994. I was one of them, and still am one of them.

He'll be back (he pops his head into Araknet, and here every few months taking notes on what needs to be done)... Good luck with the software you are choosing
to run, the rest that are out there are really good also. I have run Synchronet, and Enigma and both of them are top notch..

Sorry for the long winded response..


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