Asking for a friend. The printer ng is rather dormant so asking here
too.
He has windows 11 and an HP printer, Officejet Pro 8610. The printer
worked fine until recently. Now it has more than one but maybe related problems.
The wi-fi connection with the computer is broken and when not broken it doesn't print well.
A) One time we got to the point of putting in the router password and it connected, but 5 minutes later the connection was gone again. ??? See
item E) for more information. Maybe I should have put it next.
B) When it prints an internal page, internal to the printer, like the
Test page or the Network Configuration page, the page is beautiful, but
when he has been able to print from the computer it's terrible. Every
8th line is nice, but the two lines before it (and 5 lines before it)
are dim and top (or bottom for line 5) half is even dimmer, and the 2
lines before that, 3 and 4, are so dim as to be practically invisible.
The whole page is like that. If the printer is connected well enough to
get anything, how can it be so bad?
Actually, the repetitive nature of the problem, every 8 lines, seems
maybe like** a printer problem, not a transmision/conection** problem,
but the internal pages are perfect. **Or there is some electronic interference with the wifi transmission that pulses at the same rate
that 8 lines of printer transmission take? Wouldn't that affect
everything else he does on the wifi-connected laptop? or at least
everything outgoing? He's sent me emails that look fine.
C) It says there is no internet connection. They don't mean the wifi connection, do they? Some recent printers will let the owner print from anywhere in the world, if he has registered with the printer
manufacturer. He hasn't and he doesn't print when he travels,so he
doesn't need this, but is that what the message is referring to?
D) Is HP more confusing than most, especially their webpages? It says to install cerrtain software and it's hard to find the software by that
name. It said to install the helper app to help installing the
software. We did that and the helper app is there, but no interface
with the printer. (He bought this laptop after he bought the printer.
The computer he had then is gone, I think. When there is a problem
printing, he gets no message on the computer (and the printer is in the basement. That's because the software that should be on the computer is
not, right?)
E) When it wasn't working, the printer printed Wireless Network Test
Results and under Conectivity it said
-- Connected Not Run
-- Disconect count total 175 -- that's very bad, isn't it?
Under Network it said
-- Network name (SSID) Found Fail
-- Other networks detected matching ur natwork name (SSID) Not Run
-- Wireless networks 7 -- How can it find 7 networks
but not his own? That's what that means, right?
But despite not finding the network name in the first part of the
report, under Current Configuration it has
-- Network Name (SSID) and has his wifi network name.
Is that just left over from when it worked?
How can if find 7 wireless networks (his neighbors. The lots are 60
or 80 feet wide!) and not find his own network? The router is only 14
feet away from the printer!!!
BTW, this is one thing I consider confusing:
Network name (SSID) Found Fail
It says "Found" even though it's not found. They should leave out found
or put in a question mark.
Less important:
F) Have they started using App for both the phone and the computer? I
hate that. My Brother printer lets you print straight from the phone so
when it says App, it sound like they are talking about the phone, but I
think sometimes HP is talking about the computer. Changing program to
app is reminiscent of changing directory to folder, another unnecessary change meant to cater to people they think are too dumb to learn a new
word. But it's worse because it's confusing and folder is not
inherently confusing.
Much less important:
G) The Verizon router password is 16 or 20 characters long, altenating between letters and numbers. It's too late for me to change it because
I have two phones, two computers, two printers, a smart TV, Alexa, and
maybe a table radio connected using the old computer, But even 4
alphabetic characters is more than enough to stop my next door and 2-door-away and 3-door-away neighbors from breaking into my wifi. Mostly because none of them want to. And are they going to monitor my wifi all
week waiting for me to log into my bank, and they don't know how to tell
when I'm doing that***, just so they can steal my bank password, so they
can become thieves? If I'd been smart, I would have changed the
password to something I can remember and is easy to enter, but no one suggests this in advance. They say it can be changed but don't point
out why it's a good idea.
***I suppose there is software somewhere that can listen to all wifi
waiting for the url for a bank followed not too long afterwards by the
userid and password, but isn't it difficult to tell what is the user id
and password amidst all the other traffic. They are not labeled, are
they? It just goes by the offset fromt the start of the transmission,
right? I myself am likely to download and read some news or email in between requesting the login screen for the bank and actually sending my login credentials.
Plus even 4 characters would give 26**4 possible passwords, so how will
they get into my wifi in the first place? Plus they don't know it's
only 4 characters. They would expect that it's longer and have to
allocate time for 36**8 possibilities. Or 36**20. The guy from the National Bureau of Standards who wrote the original standards for
passwords has now, several years ago, changed his mind and says he was
wrong, they don't have to be iirc so long or complicated, and he, or
someone else, says they don't have to be changed unless there is a data breech. Yet afaict, most places are still following t he old mistaken standards.
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or the >> printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the wireless >> connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:32:56 -0500, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
I suggested that, and he's looking for a USB cable but after we put in 2 hours yesterday, I just went home. And now I see that he might need software to change from wifi to usb!! Or do you think he can just plug
it in anyhow?
Asking for a friend. The printer ng is rather dormant so asking here
too.
He has windows 11 and an HP printer, Officejet Pro 8610. The printer
worked fine until recently. Now it has more than one but maybe related problems.
The wi-fi connection with the computer is broken and when not broken it doesn't print well.
A) One time we got to the point of putting in the router password and it connected, but 5 minutes later the connection was gone again. ??? See
item E) for more information. Maybe I should have put it next.
B) When it prints an internal page, internal to the printer, like the
Test page or the Network Configuration page, the page is beautiful, but
when he has been able to print from the computer it's terrible. Every
8th line is nice, but the two lines before it (and 5 lines before it)
are dim and top (or bottom for line 5) half is even dimmer, and the 2
lines before that, 3 and 4, are so dim as to be practically invisible.
The whole page is like that. If the printer is connected well enough to
get anything, how can it be so bad?
Actually, the repetitive nature of the problem, every 8 lines, seems
maybe like** a printer problem, not a transmision/conection** problem,
but the internal pages are perfect. **Or there is some electronic interference with the wifi transmission that pulses at the same rate
that 8 lines of printer transmission take? Wouldn't that affect
everything else he does on the wifi-connected laptop? or at least
everything outgoing? He's sent me emails that look fine.
C) It says there is no internet connection. They don't mean the wifi connection, do they? Some recent printers will let the owner print from anywhere in the world, if he has registered with the printer
manufacturer. He hasn't and he doesn't print when he travels,so he
doesn't need this, but is that what the message is referring to?
D) Is HP more confusing than most, especially their webpages? It says to install cerrtain software and it's hard to find the software by that
name. It said to install the helper app to help installing the
software. We did that and the helper app is there, but no interface
with the printer. (He bought this laptop after he bought the printer.
The computer he had then is gone, I think. When there is a problem
printing, he gets no message on the computer (and the printer is in the basement. That's because the software that should be on the computer is
not, right?)
E) When it wasn't working, the printer printed Wireless Network Test
Results and under Conectivity it said
-- Connected Not Run
-- Disconect count total 175 -- that's very bad, isn't it?
Under Network it said
-- Network name (SSID) Found Fail
-- Other networks detected matching ur natwork name (SSID) Not Run
-- Wireless networks 7 -- How can it find 7 networks
but not his own? That's what that means, right?
But despite not finding the network name in the first part of the
report, under Current Configuration it has
-- Network Name (SSID) and has his wifi network name.
Is that just left over from when it worked?
How can if find 7 wireless networks (his neighbors. The lots are 60
or 80 feet wide!) and not find his own network? The router is only 14
feet away from the printer!!!
BTW, this is one thing I consider confusing:
Network name (SSID) Found Fail
It says "Found" even though it's not found. They should leave out found
or put in a question mark.
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
Well I found the manual and this one does have USB connection. But you
can't just plug in USB if you had wifi or ethernet. You have to find
the Printer/Utilities and then click something and click Connect a new printer. Also there are steps needed to go in the other direction.
This does mean you can't do it just by plugging in USB, right?
Is that typical, that you can't just plug in USB if you've been using something else to connect? And can't just use wifi if you've been usingSee above.
USB?
And afaik he still does't have the printer software on his computer.You really don't need the software for the 8610 or any 8600 series
It's not on his desktop. I was going to look in the list of all
programs, but he has win11, and I have win10 modified to look like win7,
so il can't find anything on his computer!!! His printer is older than
his laptop, so he probably never though to install the software.
Maybe he has a CD that came with the printer.Throw the cd away, it's superseded by 'the Full feature software on the
Hmmm. I know you don't have to install the printer softwareGood, move on..the printer problems are not related to the software.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:32:56 -0500, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
I suggested that, and he's looking for a USB cable but after we put in 2 hours yesterday, I just went home. And now I see that he might need software to change from wifi to usb!! Or do you think he can just plug
it in anyhow?
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
micky wrote on 11/27/24 10:27 AM:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:32:56 -0500, knuttleYou don't software to change from USB to Wifi.
<keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
I suggested that, and he's looking for a USB cable but after we put in 2
hours yesterday, I just went home.ÿÿ And now I see that he might need
software to change from wifi to usb!!ÿ Or do you think he can just plug
it in anyhow?
ÿ- not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
ÿDisconnect USB cable from the printer and computer, decide which mode
the 8610 will connect to the router(LAN or Wifi), then configure the printer's LAN or Wifi MAC address in your router to be assigned a static
ip address, save the routers settings.
I'm curious. Why do you need static IP for a printer?ÿ I've been letting
the router DHCP assign IP and it's been working really well so far. What
am I missing by doing it this easy way?
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Asking for a friend. The printer ng is rather dormant so asking here
too.
He has windows 11 and an HP printer, Officejet Pro 8610. The printer
worked fine until recently. Now it has more than one but maybe related problems.
The wi-fi connection with the computer is broken and when not broken it doesn't print well.
A) One time we got to the point of putting in the router password and it connected, but 5 minutes later the connection was gone again. ??? See
item E) for more information. Maybe I should have put it next.
I'm curious. Why do you need static IP for a printer?ÿ I've been letting
the router DHCP assign IP and it's been working really well so far. What
am I missing by doing it this easy way?
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
micky wrote on 11/27/24 10:27 AM:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:32:56 -0500, knuttleYou don't software to change from USB to Wifi.
<keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
I suggested that, and he's looking for a USB cable but after we put in 2 >>> hours yesterday, I just went home.ÿÿ And now I see that he might need
software to change from wifi to usb!!ÿ Or do you think he can just plug
it in anyhow?
ÿÿ- not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
ÿÿDisconnect USB cable from the printer and computer, decide which mode the 8610 will connect to the router(LAN or Wifi), then configure the printer's LAN or Wifi MAC address in your router to be assigned a static ip address, save the routers settings.
I'm curious. Why do you need static IP for a printer?ÿ I've been letting
the router DHCP assign IP and it's been working really well so far.
What am I missing by doing it this easy way?
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it doesn't have is USB.
Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not
for connecting the printer to a computer)?
So does grey scale still use non-black ink?
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it
doesn't have is USB.
Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
"Connectivity, standard
1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device);
Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not
for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'.
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled upHere is a video about connecting computer to the hp-laserjet-m207
with a lid of some kind.
On 11/28/2024 8:23 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filledHere is a video about connecting computer to the hp-laserjet-m207
up with a lid of some kind.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207- %20%3E%3E%20m212-printer-series/model/30836593
NOTE: This printer does not use the standard flat type USB cable.ÿ TheUSB port is a "D" shaped port SEE THE VIDEO ABOVE
On 2024-11-28 05:14, micky wrote:
So does grey scale still use non-black ink?
There may be a switch in the printer config to only use black ink or toner.
On 2024-11-28 12:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it
doesn't have is USB.
ÿÿ Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled up with a lid of some kind.
Although the vendor said it has usb. Huh, it is a photo of text, I can not paste it here.
By hand: refurb, laser printer, HP laserjet M209dwe, WiFi, USB, Ethernet, Bluetooth, 6 months instant ink with HP+, double sided+
104.25€
So maybe there is a variant model with USB.
"Connectivity, standard
ÿ 1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device);
ÿ Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
ÿÿ Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not
for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer'
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
...
ÿ In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'.
Ah. :-)
Changing program toapp is reminiscent of changing directory to folder, another unnecessary change meant to cater to people they think are too dumb to learn a new
word. But it's worse because it's confusing and folder is not
inherently confusing.
In article <vi7ib8$3722$1@dont-email.me>,
Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB
or the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Gosh! That's useless, I use wired ethernet here, solid and reliable.
Only phones and tablets use Wi-Fi here.
NOTE: This printer does not use the standard flat type USB cable. The
USB port is a "D" shaped port SEE THE VIDEO ABOVE
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or
the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
On Thu, 11/28/2024 8:14 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-11-28 05:14, micky wrote:
So does grey scale still use non-black ink?
There may be a switch in the printer config to only use black ink or toner. >>
But this is HP though.
I doubt they would print black-only prints.
They need that yellow cart... so they can do "cleaning cycles" on it :-)
On Thu, 11/28/2024 8:23 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2024-11-28 12:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the >>>>>> wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it >>>> doesn't have is USB.
ÿÿ Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled up with a lid of some kind.
Although the vendor said it has usb. Huh, it is a photo of text, I can not paste it here.
By hand: refurb, laser printer, HP laserjet M209dwe, WiFi, USB, Ethernet, Bluetooth, 6 months instant ink with HP+, double sided+
104.25€
So maybe there is a variant model with USB.
"Connectivity, standard
ÿ 1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device); >>> ÿ Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
ÿÿ Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not >>> for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer'
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
...
ÿ In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'. >>Ah. :-)
On the web site here, the back of their printer has the control panel controls, and the front of the printer has the same set of controls,
and all the connectors are missing. That is in the equipment pictures.
https://connorsoffice.ca/hp-inc/hp-laserjet-200-m209dw-desktop-wireless-laser-printer-monochrome/73975-00/p
Yet, the ninth page of the PDF, shows connectors on the back, on the right.
Ninth page, "Printer Back View"
https://content.etilize.com/User-Manual/1067439376.pdf
It seems to be a very "flexible" product when it comes to
fit and finish. Resembles a "grab bag" or a "mystery meat".
I would pay good money to be treated this way, I can tell you.
Paul
On 27/11/2024 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:HP printers can also be connected by wire to a local network.
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
That's what we have.
fokke Nauta
On 2024-11-28 12:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the
wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it
doesn't have is USB.
Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled up
with a lid of some kind.
Although the vendor said it has usb. Huh, it is a photo of text, I can
not paste it here.
By hand: refurb, laser printer, HP laserjet M209dwe, WiFi, USB,
Ethernet, Bluetooth, 6 months instant ink with HP+, double sided+
104.25?
So maybe there is a variant model with USB.
"Connectivity, standard
1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device);
Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
...
In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'.
Ah. :-)
On Thu, 11/28/2024 3:50 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 27/11/2024 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:HP printers can also be connected by wire to a local network.
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Moral - do not use them!
Go for one with USB and/or Ethernet.
That's what we have.
fokke Nauta
This model has two options. No Etherhet if the letter "e"
is not on the end of the model number. Has Ethernet if the
letter "e" is on the end of the model number.
The USB is always supposed to be there, except on Carlos printer
where the USB is missing and has a plastic fascia installed
to cover the "hole". The USB connector is not apparently
a USB-B, it looks like a "micro" version of some sort. That's
what the picture in the find manual seems to show.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:He could still hard connect the printer to his computer with the
On 2024-11-28 12:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the >>>>>> wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it >>>> doesn't have is USB.
Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled up
with a lid of some kind.
Although the vendor said it has usb. Huh, it is a photo of text, I can
not paste it here.
By hand: refurb, laser printer, HP laserjet M209dwe, WiFi, USB,
Ethernet, Bluetooth, 6 months instant ink with HP+, double sided+
104.25?
So maybe there is a variant model with USB.
"Connectivity, standard
1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device); >>> Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not >>> for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer'
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
...
In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'. >>Ah. :-)
Mystery solved! At first you said "I have an HP Laserjet M209dw ...",
so that's what I looked up. But now you said "HP laserjet M209dwe", with
an extra 'e' at the end, which is indeed a different model, and for
*that* model, the Product Specification [1] says:
"Connectivity, standard
Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX; Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
So indeed Ethernet and Wi-Fi, but no USB.
"Elementary, dear Watson!"
[1] 'HP LaserJet M209dwe Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207e-m212e-printer-series/model/36120176>
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:40:16 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
There were instructions in the owners manual, but they were going in the other direction. There were so many,sections win8, win7, OS X,
This model has two options. No Etherhet if the letter "e"
is not on the end of the model number. Has Ethernet if the letter "e" is
on the end of the model number.
The USB is always supposed to be there, except on Carlos printer where
the USB is missing and has a plastic fascia installed to cover the
"hole". The USB connector is not apparently a USB-B, it looks like a
"micro" version of some sort. That's what the picture in the find manual seems to show.
Paul
On 11/29/2024 9:44 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
ÿÿ Mystery solved! At first you said "I have an HP Laserjet M209dw ...",He could still hard connect the printer to his computer with the
so that's what I looked up. But now you said "HP laserjet M209dwe", with
an extra 'e' at the end, which is indeed a different model, and for
*that* model, the Product Specification [1] says:
"Connectivity, standard
ÿ Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX; Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
ÿÿ So indeed Ethernet and Wi-Fi, but no USB.
ÿÿ "Elementary, dear Watson!"
[1] 'HP LaserJet M209dwe Printer'
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207e-
m212e-printer-series/model/36120176>
Ethernet cable.ÿ Even if he does it ethernet from computer to router and then ethernet from printer to routher.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-28 12:23, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-11-27 17:45, Graham J wrote:
knuttle wrote:
[snip]
Have you tried to print with a hard wired connection ie through USB or >>>>>> the printer cable (if present).
If it prints directly it would possible isolate the problem to the >>>>>> wireless connection.
HP printers are known for being WiFi only.
Nono. This is not true.
I have an HP Laserjet M209dw and it has both WiFi and Ethernet. What it >>>> doesn't have is USB.
Are you sure about that? The Product Specification says:
The box clearly says "no usb", and the would be usb socket is filled up
with a lid of some kind.
Although the vendor said it has usb. Huh, it is a photo of text, I can
not paste it here.
By hand: refurb, laser printer, HP laserjet M209dwe, WiFi, USB,
Ethernet, Bluetooth, 6 months instant ink with HP+, double sided+
104.25?
So maybe there is a variant model with USB.
"Connectivity, standard
1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device); >>> Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
Or is the USB only for pludding in a USB memory-stick, etc. (i.e. not >>> for connecting the printer to a computer)?
'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer'
<https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
...
In my defense: On the keyboard, the 'd' is *somewhat* close to the 'g'. >>Ah. :-)
Mystery solved! At first you said "I have an HP Laserjet M209dw ...",
so that's what I looked up. But now you said "HP laserjet M209dwe", with
an extra 'e' at the end, which is indeed a different model, and for
*that* model, the Product Specification [1] says:
"Connectivity, standard
Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX; Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
So indeed Ethernet and Wi-Fi, but no USB.
"Elementary, dear Watson!"
[1] 'HP LaserJet M209dwe Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207e-m212e-printer-series/model/36120176>
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 11/28/2024 3:50 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
As I mentioned later (today), the M209dwe [2] does *not* have USB and that's what Carlos has (he first said M209dw, but later said M209dwe).
[1] 'HP LaserJet M209dw Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207-m212-printer-series/model/30836593>
"Connectivity, standard
1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000TX network; 1 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 (device);
Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
[2] 'HP LaserJet M209dwe Printer' <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-m207e-m212e-printer-series/model/36120176>
"Connectivity, standard
Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX; Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Dual band 2.4GHz/5GHz"
micky wrote on 11/28/24 11:40 PM:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:40:16 -0700,
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
There were instructions in the owners manual, but they were going in the
other direction.ÿÿ There were so many,sections win8, win7, OS X,
As noted before, ignore everything you read in the printer manual,
Wireless Setup Wizard, USB instructions, USB convert to Wifi, etc.
Disconnect the USB cable
Turn off the printer
Turn off Wifi-direct in printer settings(browser or printer control panel) Use the printer control panel to find the LAN and Wifi Mac Address
write both of them down
Decide your preferred connection LAN or Wifi(not Direct Wifi)
Open the router admin control panel and assign an ip address for the MAC addresss of your desired connection type) LAN or Wifi. Use the router settings to allow the assigned ip/MAC address.
Save the router settings
Uninstall all HP Printer software and any apps in Windows Programs-
Features or Windows settings.
Shutdown(not Restart) Windows to power off the device
Power on Windows
Download and install the HP printers Basic Driver
ÿ- ignore any prompts that the printer is not found(it's still turned
off and no cable or Wifi connection)
Power off Windows
If LAN, connect a LAN cable to the router and the printer
ÿ- If Wifi, no connection needed
Power on Windows
ÿ- logon to Windows, Windows will find the printer via its router
assigned LAN or Wifi ip address.
Set the printer as the default printer, use the printer.
On 2024-11-29 18:39, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
micky wrote on 11/28/24 11:40 PM:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:40:16 -0700,
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
There were instructions in the owners manual, but they were going in the >>> other direction.ÿÿ There were so many,sections win8, win7, OS X,
As noted before, ignore everything you read in the printer manual,
Wireless Setup Wizard, USB instructions, USB convert to Wifi, etc.
Disconnect the USB cable
Turn off the printer
Turn off Wifi-direct in printer settings(browser or printer control panel) >> Use the printer control panel to find the LAN and Wifi Mac Address
write both of them down
In a printer like mine (M209dwe), there is no control panel and no
display. You configure the printer using the "HP Smart" phone app, which requires the WiFi to be configured and running. Possibly connecting an ethernet cable from printer to router would work.
To find out the configuration details, there is a button labelled "i"
that prints an information page. It does include the IP address, but not
the MAC.
There is also a configuration web page on the printer. Possibly you can write a fixed IP in there (I did not try).
To find the MAC, you have to use some network tool in your computer (arp)
or check the information on your router.
Decide your preferred connection LAN or Wifi(not Direct Wifi)
Open the router admin control panel and assign an ip address for the
MAC addresss of your desired connection type) LAN or Wifi. Use the
router settings to allow the assigned ip/MAC address.
Save the router settings
Uninstall all HP Printer software and any apps in Windows Programs-
Features or Windows settings.
Shutdown(not Restart) Windows to power off the device
Power on Windows
Download and install the HP printers Basic Driver
ÿÿ- ignore any prompts that the printer is not found(it's still turned
off and no cable or Wifi connection)
Power off Windows
If LAN, connect a LAN cable to the router and the printer
ÿÿ- If Wifi, no connection needed
Power on Windows
ÿÿ- logon to Windows, Windows will find the printer via its router
assigned LAN or Wifi ip address.
Set the printer as the default printer, use the printer.
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