• Convert old OS to a Virtual Disk and use on a new PC

    From Dual Boot Windows@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 6 12:30:00 2025
    You can convert your Hard Disk/SSD to a VHD or VHDX format easily and
    this can be used on a new machine or Oracle VitualBox or Microsoft
    Hyper-V. I suggest watch this video (15:41) and download the necessary
    tools from Microsoft Website.

    <https://youtu.be/mmI2jOkSgL8?si=cZigFgmhqZXR-rtW>

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/downloads/disk2vhd>


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  • From Ant@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 7 12:23:51 2025
    I wonder if it is possible to make my 5/29/2021 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
    Macrium Reflect Rescue v7.3.5925 (WinPE v3.1) image backup *.mrimg into
    a VM.


    In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Dual Boot Windows <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    You can convert your Hard Disk/SSD to a VHD or VHDX format easily and
    this can be used on a new machine or Oracle VitualBox or Microsoft
    Hyper-V. I suggest watch this video (15:41) and download the necessary
    tools from Microsoft Website.

    <https://youtu.be/mmI2jOkSgL8?si=cZigFgmhqZXR-rtW>

    <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/downloads/disk2vhd>


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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed May 7 22:26:11 2025
    On Tue, 5/6/2025 10:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    I wonder if it is possible to make my 5/29/2021 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
    Macrium Reflect Rescue v7.3.5925 (WinPE v3.1) image backup *.mrimg into a VM.


    Yes.

    Name: ImgToVHD.exe
    Size: 2,481,408 bytes (2423 KiB)
    SHA256: 35A3ECFFF6EAE58A0DC6B45510C05603EF9C756DC35EB5BDD9AB42ABD5F73A6C

    They stopped including that in the Program Files, but if you
    locate an old copy, that might work with a "Full" backup
    from a relatively recent Macrium.

    You can at least experiment with that, and see for yourself.
    No guarantees. Once it went out of support, it went out of support.

    *******

    An alternative method, is to restore the backup image to
    a hard drive, then use disk2vhd to make a VHD or VHDX.

    At one time, there was a utility, that would take a dd .img
    and slap a VHD header and trailer onto the file (it could
    do this, without making a copy of the file while doing so!).
    You could do that :-) The materials needed to enter the virtualization
    domain, they can be pretty simple. To start. Making useful
    things out of bailing wire, that's another matter entirely.
    To make such a contrivance useful, you need to do a "Fixed"
    to "Dynamic" conversion. That takes all the fun out of it.

    the Img2VHD above, makes a Dynamic, so you don't have to worry
    about the output being inefficient. It is fully efficient.

    At first this idea seems like fun, but after a while, it's a slog.

    *******

    While the concept is attractive, the details can be daunting.
    For example, determining why nested virtualization isn't
    working, that's going to be pretty hard to figure out.
    To this day, nested virtualization does not seem to work
    right on my Zen3. Maybe it works better on the Intel side,
    don't have modern enough Intel to test that.

    There can be a tick box for nested virtualization, but just
    because you ticked it, does not mean it is working.

    There isn't even a modern drawing of the inverted hypervisor for us.
    You can try and figure some things out, using this diagram. Right click
    on the diagram here, use "View diagram" to fully see the diagram.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20111205072921/https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768520%28v=bts.10%29.aspx

    You can see the topic is confusing, but Windows 10 can't be a Host,
    if an inverted Hypervisor is present. the inverted Hypervisor is
    the host, and Windows must then be subservient to it. Even if
    the diagram says it's the Root Partition, does it really make a
    difference labeling it like that, or not ? IDK.

    I don't know what happens to Windows, when you turn off VT-X in the BIOS.
    Since VT-X setting is not "essential to virtualization",
    it may still be possible for your main Windows OS to be virtualized.
    This might be the case, starting at Windows 8 or Windows 8.1,
    but without documentation, how can I tell you for sure ???

    Virtualization does not need to be the "fallthru type".
    With x86-on-x86 execution, most of the Guest binary instructions
    are executed directly on the hardware. This is why the thing
    works at the "normal speed". When you take advantage of
    the fallthru, it's for better or worse. If the project called
    for "Pentium III behavior", the Zen3 aspect of your environment
    can be "viewed" by the Guest, and the Guest knows immediately
    it's not on a Pentium III. If a Guest OS tries to execute an
    AVX512 instruction on a Pentium III, that should fail and not pass.
    If the platform has AVX512, its existence could be checked during
    fallthru (attempting to run the instruction right on the hardware).

    If you use something like QEMU, that (like a lot of early
    virtualization) can do instruction translation. You could run
    ARM code on an x86, x86 code on an ARM, via translation. But,
    you can also run x86 code via translation, on an x86, tell QEMU
    this is a Pentium III, and then the "smell" of Pentium III is
    seen by the Guest. It really thinks it is on a Pentium III.
    What is the price of doing this ? Translation is as slow as
    molasses, and that's why we seldom if ever do it that way.
    But if you were wondering how the defunct Windows System for ARM
    worked, that involves translation. Even the new Qualcomm laptops
    with ARM hardware, use translation to run win32 codes.

    Paul

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  • From Simon@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu May 8 10:01:03 2025
    On 07/05/2025 03:23, Ant wrote:
    I wonder if it is possible to make my 5/29/2021 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
    Macrium Reflect Rescue v7.3.5925 (WinPE v3.1) image backup *.mrimg into
    a VM.


    Have you created a rescue media of Macrium? If the answer is yes then
    you can restore the backup image in VBox,

    Step 1 is to create a Virtual Machine with disk size say 150GB.

    Step 2 is to click on the start button in Virtual box but at the same
    time press F12 function key to boot-up with the rescue media flash drive.

    Step 3 is to browse your image file and follow the restore process in
    the normal way.

    This should restore the image to your Virtual Box and see if it runs OK.

    Windows 7 never supported efi so this might be a problem on newer
    machines but try it anyway.

    Make sure you have backup of your main machine because mistakes can
    happen when restoring the image.

    I don't have Windows 7 ISO handy to try this but I have restored Windows
    10 from Virtual Box to the main machine. You are doing the opposite but
    it should work.

    One of these days I will try to do what you want to do but with Windows 10.

    Please note latest version of Virtual Box allows you to boot-up from a
    media. If you pay careful attention on the screen when pressing the
    start button it asks you if you want to boot-up from a device. See this
    image:

    <https://i.imgur.com/Vm1och4.png>



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