Another daily-diary article, this time trying out a few Linux distros
that might offer a less painful transition for Windows users ><https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/before-windows-10-goes-eol-im-testing-three-alternative-linux-distros-to-save-my-6-year-old-laptop-from-the-landfill>.
A lot of the time, it seems to me, the hardest step for a Windows user
is copying a bootable Linux image (either live OS or installer) onto a
USB stick. What would be a quick, easy job on Linux itself requires a
fair bit of faffing about with third-party tools on Windows.
On Thu, 6/26/2025 3:56 AM, Joel wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Another daily-diary article, this time trying out a few Linux distros
that might offer a less painful transition for Windows users
<https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/before-windows-10-goes-eol-im-testing-three-alternative-linux-distros-to-save-my-6-year-old-laptop-from-the-landfill>.
A lot of the time, it seems to me, the hardest step for a Windows user
is copying a bootable Linux image (either live OS or installer) onto a
USB stick. What would be a quick, easy job on Linux itself requires a
fair bit of faffing about with third-party tools on Windows.
I just like the URL - a six-year-old laptop is too old. That's the
racket that is the pace of Windows' development. What starts out as a
fine OS turns into a drain on the whole experience. Linux doesn't do
that.
But liars do.
Lenovo X390
I would like to inspect that claim. let's dump the specs. Then check.
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/x390/22tp2tx3900?srsltid=AfmBOorreCtpLBORHQWKitmLEijjicouXxdKD8YO1rqIfmtrKjN50vvs
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8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-8665U Processor 1.90 GHz 4.80 GHz Turbo, 4C 8T, 8MB Cache
Operating System Windows 10 Pro 64
Display 13.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare, touchscreen, 300 nits >Graphics Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics
Battery Up to 17.6 hours with 48 Whr battery*
16 GB DDR4 2400MHz (Soldered)
Storage 512 GB PCIe SSD
Security
dTPM 2.0
I/O (Input / Output) Ports
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1** (one Always On)
1 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C (Power Delivery, DisplayPort, Data transfer)
1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C / Intel Thunderbolt 3 (Power Delivery, DisplayPort, Data transfer)
MicroSD card reader/Micro-SIM combination slot
Smart card reader (Optional)
Headphone / mic combo
HDMI 1.4
RJ45 via Ethernet Extension adapter (sold separately)
Intel® 9560 802.11AC (2 x 2) & Bluetooth® 5.1 with vPro™
Webcam 720p HD
65W AC adapter (required for Rapid Charge)
6 Cell Li-Ion 48Whr internal battery >***********************************************************************
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
Intel Core i7-8665U <=== in the list, 50% down the page
In fact, not only is the unit perfectly compliant (will pass the Health utility),
the owner will also receive the free upgrade from his OEM licensed Win10Pro >to Win11Pro.
The premise is off to a crooked start. The owner didn't even
test whether it would take an upgrade. It should not even need
any Rufus flag hacks.
I'm running a 4th gen processor, a HEDT, and it works too.
And it's NOT in the list. And it does take the Rufus trick
to get that installed.
Another daily-diary article, this time trying out a few Linux distros
that might offer a less painful transition for Windows users <https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/before-windows-10-goes-eol-im-testing-
three-alternative-linux-distros-to-save-my-6-year-old-laptop-from-the-landfill
.
A lot of the time, it seems to me, the hardest step for a Windows user
is copying a bootable Linux image (either live OS or installer) onto a
USB stick. What would be a quick, easy job on Linux itself requires a
fair bit of faffing about with third-party tools on Windows.
On 6/26/25 3:20 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
I just used rufus to make a USB install drive
Same thing I do with me W10 customers. I think
folks are making too big a deal out of all this.
On 2025/6/27 14:53:13, WolfFan wrote:
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1. You don’t have to junk Win 10 if you don’t want to. I have XP and 7 machines running, MS bailed on them a long time ago but they still work, I just have to be careful. As most modern web browsers no longer like XP and it
would be a Very Bad Idea(™) to run IE at this late date, the XP machines are locked away on a network which has no internet connectivity, and we take
precautions when running them. Why run them at all? because they run $150,000
imagesetters, that’s why. The imagesetters are very picky about their
What's an imagesetter?
drivers (not really drivers, long story, but the imagesetters won’t work without them) and still work, and management will NOT be replacing them as long as they work. So the XP machines live. I have a couple spare XP machines
for when one of the units in use croaks, which will happen sooner or later. The Win 7 machines live on for similar, though less expensive, reasons. Now,
if you want to go adventuring on ye internet, you might have problems, but you can use Win 10 locally for decades or until the hardware dies, whichever
comes along first.
I used both XP and 7 - including on the 'net - long after both ended "support"; for a reasonably savvy user, I think the dangers are much exaggerated. Fair enough, if you have a combination of inexperienced
users, and critical systems/data that aren't backed up often enough.[]
3. the main problems that I’ve found with modern (a.k.a. less than a decade[]
old) laptops is that a lot of them have Safe Boot in the BIOS/UEFI and getting around it is a pain, and, worse, a lot of vendors (Lenovo, I’m
4. the other problems are drivers. Some vendors (Lenovo again, you bastards!)[]
5. Some distros work better than others on certain hardware. (Lenovo again!)
[]
This particular Lenovo ("ideapad"; bought as refurbished, with W10-64
already on it) has a little hole on the left, that when poked gives me
access to the boot menu (trying the various keys - I got the manual - suggested didn't seem to stop W10 booting). I guess it's like the
"reset" button you used to get on PCs many decades ago, before they
stopped fitting them presumably because people were hitting them
accidentally too often.--
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