On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:10:19 -0700, T wrote:
Tiny 11 is not taking any ownership of anyone else's property.
Redistributing it without permission is a copyright violation.
On 6/30/25 5:39 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:10:19 -0700, T wrote:
Tiny 11 is not taking any ownership of anyone else's property.
Redistributing it without permission is a copyright violation.
it is public:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
On 6/30/25 10:53 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:52:03 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/30/25 5:39 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:10:19 -0700, T wrote:
Tiny 11 is not taking any ownership of anyone else's property.
Redistributing it without permission is a copyright violation.
it is public:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Doesn’t matter. Them having it on their servers doesn’t permit you to
have it on yours.
What exactly to you think people do with the the ISO download?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:38:52 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/30/25 10:53 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:52:03 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/30/25 5:39 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:10:19 -0700, T wrote:
Tiny 11 is not taking any ownership of anyone else's property.
Redistributing it without permission is a copyright violation.
it is public:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Doesn’t matter. Them having it on their servers doesn’t permit you to >>> have it on yours.
What exactly to you think people do with the the ISO download?
Use it in a non-copyright-infringing way, as per the EULA.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:27:06 -0400, Paul wrote:
The topic of a Linux USB preparation will come up, someone will say
"Oh, just use XYZ", but the thing is, they haven't tested XYZ
themselves, and there is a bit of disappointment waiting for you.
I use dd. Yes, I have tested it for myself -- used it in production, in
fact -- many times. Yes, it takes care in use; it’s not nicknamed the “data destroyer” for nothing ...
On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 04:26:31 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <103nqtn$ltl1$2@dont-email.me>:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 21:16:13 -0700, T wrote:than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/>
On 6/27/25 7:03 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:48:05 -0700, T wrote:
You want folks off Windows, you have to get all their exact software >>>>> they currently run to work on Linux. And not Wine. Wine is Alpha
code at best.
The Steam Deck would seem to prove otherwise ...
What do you mean?
Running Windows games better than Windows itself can manage.
<https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-
You can find game compatibility reports on ProtonDB:
https://www.protondb.com/
It's [Tiny11 is] not a copyright violation because Microsoft has made the
installation media public
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Joel wrote:
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:do you burn them with your dick
It's [Tiny11 is] not a copyright violation because Microsoft has made the >>>> installation media public
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
It was like that long before they had a download on microsoft.com, I
installed Win7 without activating and later activated it with the copy
I ordered. And after the 7 service pack I burned a DVD-ROM of the
newer installer image.
I had a BD-RE drive in my old computers. Once I added the SATA SSD iti go to usenet and post
was a very sleek if aging Linux system. But in my 2021 build I
excluded having case drive bays at all. And I've sold my DVD-Audio-
capable player, since I view video as a streaming medium today.
Maybe someone will report all these violations to microsofts lawyers.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 23:38:52 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/30/25 10:53 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:52:03 -0700, T wrote:
On 6/30/25 5:39 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:10:19 -0700, T wrote:
Tiny 11 is not taking any ownership of anyone else's property.
Redistributing it without permission is a copyright violation.
it is public:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Doesn’t matter. Them having it on their servers doesn’t permit you to >>> have it on yours.
What exactly to you think people do with the the ISO download?
Use it in a non-copyright-infringing way, as per the EULA.
On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 08:00:58 -0000 (UTC), Hank Rogers wrote:
Maybe someone will report all these violations to microsofts lawyers.
It does seem impossible, doesn?t it, to get through your working day with proprietary software without being dishonest.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 08:00:58 -0000 (UTC), Hank Rogers wrote:
Maybe someone will report all these violations to microsofts lawyers.
It does seem impossible, doesn?t it, to get through your working day with >> proprietary software without being dishonest.
You're joking, right!?
All my proprietary software is totally legit and that of course
includes Windows itself. Ever since Windows 1.0 (Windows/386) till
Windows 11.
Most of my proprietary software is freeware, as in no cost. I also
have some FOSS.
I think that many (most?) personal/private/'home'/<whatever> use of
Windows systems can be done with mostly no-cost software. Maybe I'm a
special case, but from reading these newsgroups, we articles, etc.,
etc., I don't think I am.
Windows enables working efficiently and saves time. Linux devours time attempting to perform the same tasks Windows does.
Or in my case -- I've seen too much -- I do
all my banking at the bank.
On 7/1/25 6:19 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
On 29/06/2025 6:10 am, T wrote:
<Snip>
And do not, do not, do not do ANY on line banking with Windows.
Why do you make this recommendation, T??
The things I see in happening to my customers.
The last customer I helped clean up after
a banking computerize got embezzlement
for over 40,000.00 U$D. She was using
Windows 10. And she was not the only
person I had to clean up after.
Keep in mind that it is up to the banks
discretion whether or not to make you
whole after you get embezzled. "But the
eMail seemed so real!"
Windows is too easy to compromise. It is
security Swiss cheese.
If you are going to do on-line banking
I recommend you use Fedora with SELinux
enabled.
Or in my case -- I've seen too much -- I do
all my banking at the bank.
On 7/3/25 12:13 AM, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 7/3/2025 2:48 AM, T wrote:
On 7/1/25 6:19 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
On 29/06/2025 6:10 am, T wrote:
<Snip>
And do not, do not, do not do ANY on line banking with Windows.
Why do you make this recommendation, T??
The things I see in happening to my customers.
The last customer I helped clean up after
a banking computerize got embezzlement
for over 40,000.00 U$D. She was using
Windows 10. And she was not the only
person I had to clean up after.
Keep in mind that it is up to the banks
discretion whether or not to make you
whole after you get embezzled. "But the
eMail seemed so real!"
Windows is too easy to compromise. It is
security Swiss cheese.
If you are going to do on-line banking
I recommend you use Fedora with SELinux
enabled.
Or in my case -- I've seen too much -- I do
all my banking at the bank.
When you ran the attachment on Virustotal, what
sort of detection did it yield ?
I only want this info as a source of an example
for the next time.
The detection won't tell you anything particularly,
except as a starting point for classification.
1) Was it patch-able (if patched in time) ?
2) Was it heuristically detectable (with sufficiently
good third-party AV) ?
Was it going to be as much of an issue for an unsupported
OS after October 2025, as for a supported OS after Oct 2025 ?
*******
I don't recommend you do online banking. Period.
The defenders are losing this battle. There are no winners.
Paul
I find out "after" the damage has been done and the
customer wants things put back together. I will
not reuse a previously infected windows machine
without doing a dd /dev/zero on the drive and
reinstalling from scratch. Anti viruses are
not perfect.
T wrote on 7/3/2025 5:52 PM:
I find out "after" the damage has been done and the
customer wants things put back together. I will
not reuse a previously infected windows machine
without doing a dd /dev/zero on the drive and
reinstalling from scratch. Anti viruses are
not perfect.
Sounds reasonable, but wouldn't it be best to physically destroy the drive and use a new, pristine replacement going forward? In fact, shouldn't any component capable of storing data be replaced?
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 05:09:33 +0200 (CEST), Dan wrote:
Windows enables working efficiently and saves time. Linux devours time
attempting to perform the same tasks Windows does.
What we find here is the opposite: Linux offers the tools to automate
common tasks, Windows forces you to jump through hoops. Open-source tools are designed to empower you, not hold you back, while proprietary software is designed to maximize the vendor’s revenue opportunity, by restricting features.
Look in particular at all the effort going into trying to figure out how
to run Windows 11 on hardware that Microsoft will not officially support.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 03:30 this Thursday (GMT):
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 05:09:33 +0200 (CEST), Dan wrote:
Windows enables working efficiently and saves time. Linux devours time
attempting to perform the same tasks Windows does.
What we find here is the opposite: Linux offers the tools to automate
common tasks, Windows forces you to jump through hoops. Open-source tools >> are designed to empower you, not hold you back, while proprietary software >> is designed to maximize the vendor’s revenue opportunity, by restricting >> features.
Look in particular at all the effort going into trying to figure out how
to run Windows 11 on hardware that Microsoft will not officially support.
It's always going to be impossible (or at least way way more difficult)
to automate a GUI.
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 03:30 this Thursday (GMT):
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 05:09:33 +0200 (CEST), Dan wrote:It's always going to be impossible (or at least way way more difficult)
Windows enables working efficiently and saves time. Linux devours time >>>> attempting to perform the same tasks Windows does.
What we find here is the opposite: Linux offers the tools to automate
common tasks, Windows forces you to jump through hoops. Open-source tools >>> are designed to empower you, not hold you back, while proprietary software >>> is designed to maximize the vendor’s revenue opportunity, by restricting >>> features.
Look in particular at all the effort going into trying to figure out how >>> to run Windows 11 on hardware that Microsoft will not officially support. >>
to automate a GUI.
Microsoft, through the widespread use of Windows 11 with "Copilot+"
turned on, has made it as easy as ordering around Copilot to load the
apps one wants loaded - being an AI slave master, and not compliant
with ethics on use of AI.
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