I was surprised when I checked the Microsoft cumulative update site and
found updates for 10 & 11. If they are going to issue cumulative updates
for 10 do you really need to be on ESU? I am on ESU so this is just
inquiry.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska



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On Tue, 11/11/2025 3:32 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

I was surprised when I checked the Microsoft cumulative update site and found updates for 10 & 11. If they are going to issue cumulative updates for 10 do you really need to be on ESU? I am on ESU so this is just inquiry.

This should explain it, for Windows 10.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-releases-kb5068781-the-first-windows-10-extended-security-update/

Windows 11 should be business as usual on Cumulatives,
although my machine has not made a move yet. (Usually the
lights start blinking by mid-day.)

There is a "2025-11 Security Update KB5068861" inbound now.
The lights are blinking for that one, but no
sign of an actual Cumulative.

"I only subscribe for the puzzles"

Paul

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On 2025/11/11 20:44:9, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 11/11/2025 3:32 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

I was surprised when I checked the Microsoft cumulative update site an

d

found updates for 10 & 11. If they are going to issue cumulative upda

tes

for 10 do you really need to be on ESU? I am on ESU so this is just
inquiry.

This should explain it, for Windows 10.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-releases-k

b5068781-the-first-windows-10-extended-security-update/

Windows 11 should be business as usual on Cumulatives,
although my machine has not made a move yet. (Usually the
lights start blinking by mid-day.)

There is a "2025-11 Security Update KB5068861" inbound now.
The lights are blinking for that one, but no
sign of an actual Cumulative.

"I only subscribe for the puzzles"

Paul

On my 10 system:

in Settings | Update, it says "2025-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10
Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5068781) Pending install. Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.137 (KB890890) Pending install".


Which looks OK; the article you linked mentions KB5068781.

But if I look at Reliability Monitor, I see:

2025-11-5 Warning: 9NBLGGH4NNS1-Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller. failed to install
and 24 "Successful Windows Update"s;
then
2025-11-9 3 more "Successful Windows Update"s.

I'm not _worried_, but a little _puzzled_ why these are happening, when, according to that article and what I've heard elsewhere, "On October 14, Microsoft released the final Windows 10 cumulative update, after which
the operating system no longer receives bug fixes or free security update
s."

(There were also some "Successful" ones on -10-14, 16, 17, 19, 22, 25,
30, and -11-2, then the -11-5 and -11-9 above.)


If you'd never told us about Reliability Monitor ... :-)


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"There is no such thing as bad weather - only the wrong clothes." -
Billy Connolly, in his World Tour of England, Ireland and Wales, 4 March
2002 (BBC1).

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On Tue, 11/11/2025 6:50 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2025/11/11 20:44:9, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 11/11/2025 3:32 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

I was surprised when I checked the Microsoft cumulative update site and >>> found updates for 10 & 11. If they are going to issue cumulative updates >>> for 10 do you really need to be on ESU? I am on ESU so this is just
inquiry.

This should explain it, for Windows 10.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-releases-kb5068781-the-first-windows-10-extended-security-update/

Windows 11 should be business as usual on Cumulatives,
although my machine has not made a move yet. (Usually the
lights start blinking by mid-day.)

There is a "2025-11 Security Update KB5068861" inbound now.
The lights are blinking for that one, but no
sign of an actual Cumulative.

"I only subscribe for the puzzles"

Paul

On my 10 system:

in Settings | Update, it says "2025-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5068781) Pending install. Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.137 (KB890890) Pending install".

Which looks OK; the article you linked mentions KB5068781.

But if I look at Reliability Monitor, I see:

2025-11-5 Warning: 9NBLGGH4NNS1-Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller. failed to install
and 24 "Successful Windows Update"s;
then
2025-11-9 3 more "Successful Windows Update"s.

I'm not _worried_, but a little _puzzled_ why these are happening, when, according to that article and what I've heard elsewhere, "On October 14, Microsoft released the final Windows 10 cumulative update, after which
the operating system no longer receives bug fixes or free security updates."

(There were also some "Successful" ones on -10-14, 16, 17, 19, 22, 25,
30, and -11-2, then the -11-5 and -11-9 above.)

If you'd never told us about Reliability Monitor ... :-)

Some activities will continue. That's why I subscribe for the puzzles.

A moment ago, on the other machine, I'm going "what's wrong with this backup", look around and WU has the disk railed, and of course I won't be making
a backup while the "priority activity" on the machine, bumps me out of the way.

It's a lot like being back at the computer center, and waiting in line for
my little deck of punched cards to load.

It's a "cloudy day" in the disk activity window.

Paul



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On 2025/11/12 0:8:32, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 11/11/2025 6:50 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

[]

On my 10 system:

[]

But if I look at Reliability Monitor, I see:

2025-11-5 Warning: 9NBLGGH4NNS1-Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller. failed to >> install
and 24 "Successful Windows Update"s;
then
2025-11-9 3 more "Successful Windows Update"s.

I'm not _worried_, but a little _puzzled_ why these are happening, when,
according to that article and what I've heard elsewhere, "On October 14,
Microsoft released the final Windows 10 cumulative update, after which
the operating system no longer receives bug fixes or free security updates." >>
(There were also some "Successful" ones on -10-14, 16, 17, 19, 22, 25,
30, and -11-2, then the -11-5 and -11-9 above.)


If you'd never told us about Reliability Monitor ... :-)

Some activities will continue. That's why I subscribe for the puzzles.

A moment ago, on the other machine, I'm going "what's wrong with this backup",
look around and WU has the disk railed, and of course I won't be making
a backup while the "priority activity" on the machine, bumps me out of the way.

It's a lot like being back at the computer center, and waiting in line for
my little deck of punched cards to load.

It's a "cloudy day" in the disk activity window.

Paul

But what _is_ going on with all these "Successful updates", every two or
three days since October 14 when everything was supposed to end (apart
from these ECUs, which I was expecting one or two a month at most of and
which this KB5068781 is the first of)?


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

One of my tricks as an armchair futurist is to "predict" things that
are already happening and watch people tell me it will never happen.
Scott Adams, 2015-3-9

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On Wed, 11/12/2025 8:52 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

But what _is_ going on with all these "Successful updates", every two or three days since October 14 when everything was supposed to end (apart
from these ECUs, which I was expecting one or two a month at most of and which this KB5068781 is the first of)?

It will settle down when the employees get bored.

They will find some other shiny thing to attract their attention.

Paul

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