On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

Jim the Geordie

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Can you download and examine them?

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On 2025-11-13 11:51, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

*.php are PHP files, which, loosely described, is a widely-used
web-scripting language that can be used to build pages on the fly. I'm guessing that these were put there by your web host, so ask them about
them, and whether you can/should delete them.

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

Jim the Geordie

(Message also sent to alt.html)

"Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
Web pages before a user sees them."

From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along, particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

Jim the Geordie

(Message also sent to alt.html)

"Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
Web pages before a user sees them."

From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along, particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

(Message also sent to alt.html)

Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
multiple newsgroups.

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On 15/11/2025 22:59, Stan Brown wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php'
and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

Jim the Geordie

(Message also sent to alt.html)

"Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
Web pages before a user sees them."

From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along, particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

(Message also sent to alt.html)

Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
multiple newsgroups.

Sorry. I thought it was the other way round :o?

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On 2025/11/16 0:38:48, Jim the Geordie wrote:

On 15/11/2025 22:59, Stan Brown wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 11:51:09 +0000, Jim the Geordie wrote:

When checking my uploaded website files I found two files 'manifest.php' >>> and 'mail.php'.
I didn't put them there, and they are not in my local site.
Are they important, essential, or can I delete them?

Jim the Geordie

(Message also sent to alt.html)

"Things that end with .php are supposed to be for 'hypertext
preprocessor, which is used to add elements and do other things to
Web pages before a user sees them."

From https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/yl09d3/what_is_a_php_file_and_how_to_read_it/>

Your web host probably puts them in every website; my previous host
did. (Siteground, my current host, does not.) You could ask their
tech support about deleting them. Otherwise I would leave them along,
particularly if their last-modified date is before your latest
upload. You don't want to risk breaking your own website!

Presumably Jim will have tried out his web files locally before
uploading them (one should always!); if they worked thus without the
.php files, then presumably they don't need them. That's not to say he
_should_ delete them - I agree, asking his hosters sounds like a good
idea - I just don't think doing so will break his website _for that
reason_.>>

(Message also sent to alt.html)

Surely you know better than to do that! If your article is relevant
to two newsgroups, you should crosspost, not start new threads in
multiple newsgroups.

Sorry. I thought it was the other way round :o?

No, it's as Stan said: crossposting is always better than posting
separate threads; then anyone in either 'group can see the contributions
made by people in either, which can be useful to both, if the original crosspost was a good idea (which in this case sounds like it was, though
I wasn't aware of alt.html and don't know what it's about, but suspect
it is). I see Stan has added it; hopefully the folks there will follow
this thread rather than the extra one.

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 06:00:39 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

[snip]

Presumably Jim will have tried out his web files locally before
uploading them (one should always!);

For that reason, when I started using PHP I installed my own server
(Apache on Linux, since that closely resembles the public host).

if they worked thus without the
.php files, then presumably they don't need them. That's not to say he _should_ delete them - I agree, asking his hosters sounds like a good
idea - I just don't think doing so will break his website _for that reason_.>>

I don't see added files (of any type) with my host. I do see an added
cookie (apparently for their load balancer).

[snip]
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