I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU. It is a Dell
desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz w/ 16 GB
ram. I received and successfully installed the November updates. So ESU
is working. However, I rarely look at the update history. A couple of
days ago, I did look at update history and to my amazement, it was empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of October
when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium Reflect.
Everything was there. I also looked today at the link to Uninstall an
update, and all my updates are listed including the November 12 update.
Is there anyway that I can get my View Update History back?

Richard

--- PyGate Linux v1.5
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On Wed, 11/19/2025 10:25 AM, rsutton wrote:

I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU.ÿ It is a Dell desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz w/ 16 GB ram. I received and successfully installed the November updates.ÿ So ESU is working. However, I rarely look at the update history.ÿ A couple of days ago, I did look at update history and to my amazement, it was empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of October when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium Reflect. Everything was there.ÿ I also looked today at the link to Uninstall an update, and all my updates are listed including the November 12 update. Is there anyway that I can get my View Update History back?

Richard

This is likely to be "the price of progress".

The OS cannot stay at the same version - the ESU
mechanism needs some sort of barrier to prevent
"casual entry" by people who did not quality, and
you're seeing a side effect of that barrier. The
History is treating this as a "New OS". Examine the
other entries, and see if there is a separate
entry just for "ESU registration".

Paul

--- PyGate Linux v1.5
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rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:

I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU. It is a Dell
desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz w/ 16 GB
ram. I received and successfully installed the November updates. So ESU
is working. However, I rarely look at the update history. A couple of
days ago, I did look at update history and to my amazement, it was empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of October
when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium Reflect. Everything was there. I also looked today at the link to Uninstall an update, and all my updates are listed including the November 12 update.
Is there anyway that I can get my View Update History back?

Were you logged into an admin-level Windows account at the time?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/windows-update-logs

That mentions the logs are stored at:

C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsUpdate

Is that folder empty? Mine has only 137 .etl files dating from to Nov
12 to 19, 2025.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\System

For me, that folder has 499 files from Dec 18, 2024 to Nov 19, 2015.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\User

has 339 files from Mar 11, 2021 to Nov 19, 2025. I looked at the
cbs.log file mentioned in the article, but it only had entries that
looked for the latest update. Not much in there regarding history.

You could see what the Nirsoft tool shows you:

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wul.html

You don't, by chance, happen to use a 3rd-party cleanup tool? The
included cleanmgr.exe tool in Windows, when you select System, can opt
to do "Windows Update Cleanup". Mine isn't selected, but it shows 6.45
GB would be recovered if I included that category in the cleanup. I'd
have to research just what that category includes.

You could also open a Powershell shell to run get-hotfix.

By the way, I am registered for the free ESU interim until next October.
When I go into the Windows Updates wizard, it says "Your PC is enrolled
to get Extended Security Updates". I remember seeing a message there
about enrolling, asked here about it, and decided to dive in (after
saving an image backup).



--- PyGate Linux v1.5
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You could see what the Nirsoft tool shows you:

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wul.html

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/windows_updates_history_viewer.html

That's his new version.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5
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In article <10fktha$2crov$1@dont-email.me>, nospam@needed.invalid (Paul) wrote:

*From:* Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
*Date:* Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:07:53 -0500

On Wed, 11/19/2025 10:25 AM, rsutton wrote:

I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU.? It is a
Dell desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @

3.60GHz w/ 16 GB ram. I received and successfully installed the
November updates.? So ESU is working. However, I rarely look at the
update history.? A couple of days ago, I did look at update history
and to my amazement, it was empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of
October when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium

Reflect. Everything was there.? I also looked today at the link to
Uninstall an update, and all my updates are listed including the
November 12 update. Is there anyway that I can get my View Update
History back?

Richard

This is likely to be "the price of progress".

The OS cannot stay at the same version - the ESU
mechanism needs some sort of barrier to prevent
"casual entry" by people who did not quality, and
you're seeing a side effect of that barrier. The
History is treating this as a "New OS". Examine the
other entries, and see if there is a separate
entry just for "ESU registration".

Paul

I still have the full list of updates shown under 'View Update History' here. I'm
also registered on the ESU scheme and using Windows 10 Professional so there's got
to be something else going on.
For this month it shows a Cumulative Update (KB5068164) installed on 12th November,
a Security Update (KB5072653) on 18th November and another Security Update (KB5068164) installed today (19th) under Quality Updates.

--
Regards
John

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On 11/19/2025 1:40 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:

I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU. It is a Dell
desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz w/ 16 GB
ram. I received and successfully installed the November updates. So ESU
is working. However, I rarely look at the update history. A couple of
days ago, I did look at update history and to my amazement, it was empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of October
when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium Reflect.
Everything was there. I also looked today at the link to Uninstall an
update, and all my updates are listed including the November 12 update.
Is there anyway that I can get my View Update History back?

Were you logged into an admin-level Windows account at the time?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/windows-update-logs

That mentions the logs are stored at:

C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsUpdate

Is that folder empty? Mine has only 137 .etl files dating from to Nov
12 to 19, 2025.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\System

For me, that folder has 499 files from Dec 18, 2024 to Nov 19, 2015.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\User

has 339 files from Mar 11, 2021 to Nov 19, 2025. I looked at the
cbs.log file mentioned in the article, but it only had entries that
looked for the latest update. Not much in there regarding history.

You could see what the Nirsoft tool shows you:

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wul.html

You don't, by chance, happen to use a 3rd-party cleanup tool? The
included cleanmgr.exe tool in Windows, when you select System, can opt
to do "Windows Update Cleanup". Mine isn't selected, but it shows 6.45
GB would be recovered if I included that category in the cleanup. I'd
have to research just what that category includes.

You could also open a Powershell shell to run get-hotfix.

By the way, I am registered for the free ESU interim until next October.
When I go into the Windows Updates wizard, it says "Your PC is enrolled
to get Extended Security Updates". I remember seeing a message there
about enrolling, asked here about it, and decided to dive in (after
saving an image backup).

Vanguard,
I checked my C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsUpdate and I have 107 entries. I
have 11 referencing 11/12/2025 & 11/13/2025 time period. I have no idea
that is in those etl files as they appear to be binary.
Yes,
My windows update says that "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended
Security Updates." My C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\User has 16 entries
dated 11/18/2025 to 11/20/2025. Again, I have no idea what is in those
etl entries as they appear to be binary.

I do not use a 3rd party cleanup tool. I don't have any nirsoft utilities.

Richard

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 11/20/2025 9:35 AM, rsutton wrote:

On 11/19/2025 1:40 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:

I have a Win10 Pro machine that I signed up for ESU.ÿ It is a Dell
desktop running an W10 Pro 64-bit Intel core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz w/ 16 GB
ram. I received and successfully installed the November updates.ÿ So ESU >>> is working. However, I rarely look at the update history.ÿ A couple of
days ago, I did look at update history and to my amazement, it was
empty!

The last time that I looked at View Updates was at the end of October
when I did a successful image of my machine using Macrium Reflect.
Everything was there.ÿ I also looked today at the link to Uninstall an
update, and all my updates are listed including the November 12 update.
Is there anyway that I can get my View Update History back?

Were you logged into an admin-level Windows account at the time?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/windows-
update-logs

That mentions the logs are stored at:

C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsUpdate

Is that folder empty?ÿ Mine has only 137 .etl files dating from to Nov
12 to 19, 2025.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\System

For me, that folder has 499 files from Dec 18, 2024 to Nov 19, 2015.

C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\User

has 339 files from Mar 11, 2021 to Nov 19, 2025.ÿ I looked at the
cbs.log file mentioned in the article, but it only had entries that
looked for the latest update.ÿ Not much in there regarding history.

You could see what the Nirsoft tool shows you:

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wul.html

You don't, by chance, happen to use a 3rd-party cleanup tool?ÿ The
included cleanmgr.exe tool in Windows, when you select System, can opt
to do "Windows Update Cleanup".ÿ Mine isn't selected, but it shows 6.45
GB would be recovered if I included that category in the cleanup.ÿ I'd
have to research just what that category includes.

You could also open a Powershell shell to run get-hotfix.

By the way, I am registered for the free ESU interim until next October.
When I go into the Windows Updates wizard, it says "Your PC is enrolled
to get Extended Security Updates".ÿ I remember seeing a message there
about enrolling, asked here about it, and decided to dive in (after
saving an image backup).

Vanguard,
I checked my C:\Windows\Logs\WindowsUpdate and I have 107 entries.ÿ I
have 11 referencing 11/12/2025 & 11/13/2025 time period.ÿ I have no idea that is in those etl files as they appear to be binary.
Yes,
My windows update says that "Your PC is enrolled to get Extended
Security Updates."ÿ My C:\ProgramData\USOShared\Logs\User has 16 entries dated 11/18/2025 to 11/20/2025. Again, I have no idea what is in those
etl entries as they appear to be binary.

I do not use a 3rd party cleanup tool.ÿ I don't have any nirsoft utilities.

Richard

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update history.
I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on 11/18/2025".

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.
Richard


--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update history.
I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on 11/18/2025".

KB5072653 is an upadte to *prepare* for the actual Extended Security
Updates (ESU):

'KB5072653: Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation
Package for Windows 10' <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072653-extended-security-updates-esu-licensing-preparation-package-for-windows-10-8c8b215c-d2af-44dc-b712-1ec403842cdc>

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.

The first real update is (as installed on my wife's system (Dutch
text)):

2025-11 Cumulatieve update voor op Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64
gebaseerde systemen (KB5068781)

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 11/20/2025 10:58 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update history.
I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on
11/18/2025".

KB5072653 is an upadte to *prepare* for the actual Extended Security Updates (ESU):

'KB5072653: Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation
Package for Windows 10' <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072653-extended-security-updates-esu-licensing-preparation-package-for-windows-10-8c8b215c-d2af-44dc-b712-1ec403842cdc>

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.

The first real update is (as installed on my wife's system (Dutch
text)):

2025-11 Cumulatieve update voor op Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64
gebaseerde systemen (KB5068781)

Frank,
Well, that's interesting info. I don't have KB5068781 listed in the
View Updates, but, if I click on the link on that page to un-install an update, it is listed. So I guess that means it's installed otherwise it wouldn't let me uninstall it. Does that make sense? How would I ensure
that it is actually installed? I'm uneasy about this...
Richard

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:

On 11/20/2025 10:58 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update history. >> I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on
11/18/2025".

KB5072653 is an upadte to *prepare* for the actual Extended Security Updates (ESU):

'KB5072653: Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation
Package for Windows 10' <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072653-extended-security-updates-esu-licensing-preparation-package-for-windows-10-8c8b215c-d2af-44dc-b712-1ec403842cdc>

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.

The first real update is (as installed on my wife's system (Dutch text)):

2025-11 Cumulatieve update voor op Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64 gebaseerde systemen (KB5068781)

Frank,
Well, that's interesting info. I don't have KB5068781 listed in the
View Updates, but, if I click on the link on that page to un-install an update, it is listed.

??? Which page do you mean by "that page"? The URL I posted was for
KB5072653 (which is installed; you said so), not for KB5068781.

So I guess that means it's installed otherwise it
wouldn't let me uninstall it. Does that make sense? How would I ensure
that it is actually installed? I'm uneasy about this...

VanguardLH posted the URL of a Nirsoft utility which reportedly can do
this.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

On 2025/11/20 16:38:49, rsutton wrote:

On 11/20/2025 10:58 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update histo

ry.

I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on
11/18/2025".

KB5072653 is an upadte to *prepare* for the actual Extended Securit

y

Updates (ESU):

'KB5072653: Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation
Package for Windows 10'
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072653-extended-security -updates-esu-licensing-preparation-package-for-windows-10-8c8b215c-d2af-4 4dc-b712-1ec403842cdc>

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.

The first real update is (as installed on my wife's system (Dutch
text)):

2025-11 Cumulatieve update voor op Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64
gebaseerde systemen (KB5068781)

Frank,
Well, that's interesting info. I don't have KB5068781 listed in the
View Updates, but, if I click on the link on that page to un-install an

update, it is listed. So I guess that means it's installed otherwise i

t

wouldn't let me uninstall it. Does that make sense? How would I ensure

that it is actually installed? I'm uneasy about this...
Richard

Looking at what Reliability Monitor tells me:

2025/11/17 10:55
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFT.MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB

2025/11/18 3:47
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)

2025/11/19 16:4
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9WZDNCRFJBMP-MICROSOFT.WINDOWSSTORE

2025/11/19 16:8
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9NHT9RB2F4HD-Microsoft.Copilot

2025/11/19 16:9
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFT.MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB

no sign yet (2025/11/20 19:1x:xx) of KB5068781, or any other KBs, only
the Copilot one and these 9WZDNCRD29V9-MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB ones.



--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sarcasm: Barbed ire

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
* Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

On 2025/11/20 16:38:49, rsutton wrote:

On 11/20/2025 10:58 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> wrote:
[...]

New development, this morning I have an entry in my View update history. >>> I now have "2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)", it says "Successfully installed on
11/18/2025".

KB5072653 is an upadte to *prepare* for the actual Extended Security
Updates (ESU):

'KB5072653: Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation
Package for Windows 10'
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072653-extended-security-updates-esu-licensing-preparation-package-for-windows-10-8c8b215c-d2af-44dc-b712-1ec403842cdc>

Still no mention of a Cumulative update.

The first real update is (as installed on my wife's system (Dutch
text)):

2025-11 Cumulatieve update voor op Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64
gebaseerde systemen (KB5068781)

Frank,
Well, that's interesting info. I don't have KB5068781 listed in the
View Updates, but, if I click on the link on that page to un-install an update, it is listed. So I guess that means it's installed otherwise it wouldn't let me uninstall it. Does that make sense? How would I ensure that it is actually installed? I'm uneasy about this...
Richard

Looking at what Reliability Monitor tells me:

[...]

2025/11/18 3:47
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following
update: 2025-11 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for
x64-based Systems (KB5072653)

[...]

no sign yet (2025/11/20 19:1x:xx) of KB5068781, or any other KBs, [...]

I got KB5068781 on November 16, but because this system (my wife's
previous system) was in storage, I did a 'Check for updates' (or
whatever the wording is), so a manual check/pull. (The whole download
and install process took three hours (!) on this rather old hardware
(including Defender update, MSRT (Malicious ...) and quite a number of
(UWP) 'apps').

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