• "Support has ended" nags

    From Nil@3:633/10 to All on Sun Nov 23 16:28:44 2025
    Anyone know how to get rid of the periodic full-screen MS nag telling
    me Windows 10 support has ended? I have no intention on upgrading to
    Win 11 on this computer or paying for support. I find a few how-to's on
    the net, but none of them work for me - I guess the delivery mechanism
    has changed over time.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nil@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 01:49:24 2025
    Thanks! I installed the registry change. It will be some time before I
    know if it works or not, but I have hope!


    On 23 Nov 2025, Support Person <user.support@invalid.invalid> wrote
    in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    On 23/11/2025 21:28, Nil wrote:
    Anyone know how to get rid of the periodic full-screen MS nag
    telling me Windows 10 support has ended? I have no intention on
    upgrading to Win 11 on this computer or paying for support. I
    find a few how-to's on the net, but none of them work for me - I
    guess the delivery mechanism has changed over time.


    Permanent Method:
    This method involves adding a specific key to the Windows Registry
    to explicitly stop end of service (EOS) notifications. Incorrect
    registry edits can cause system instability, so proceed with
    caution.

    1) Open the Run dialog box by pressing the Windows key + R.
    2) Type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
    3) Navigate to the following key in the left-hand pane:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdat
    e.

    4) If the WindowsUpdate key does not exist, right-click on the
    Windows folder, select New > Key, and name it WindowsUpdate.
    5) Right-click on the WindowsUpdate key, select New > Key, and
    name it Notify.
    6) Right-click on the new Notify key, select New > DWORD (32-bit)
    Value, and name it DiscontinueEOS.
    7) Double-click the DiscontinueEOS value and set its Value data to
    1. 8) Close the Registry Editor and restart your PC for the
    changes to take effect.






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 09:40:04 2025
    On 2025/11/23 22:45:47, Support Person wrote:
    On 23/11/2025 21:28, Nil wrote:
    Anyone know how to get rid of the periodic full-screen MS nag telling
    me Windows 10 support has ended? I have no intention on upgrading to
    Win 11 on this computer or paying for support. I find a few how-to's on
    the net, but none of them work for me - I guess the delivery mechanism
    has changed over time.


    Permanent Method:
    This method involves adding a specific key to the Windows Registry to explicitly stop end of service (EOS) notifications. Incorrect registry
    edits can cause system instability, so proceed with caution.

    1) Open the Run dialog box by pressing the Windows key + R.
    2) Type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
    3) Navigate to the following key in the left-hand pane:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate.

    4) If the WindowsUpdate key does not exist, right-click on the Windows folder, select New > Key, and name it WindowsUpdate.
    5) Right-click on the WindowsUpdate key, select New > Key, and name it Notify.
    6) Right-click on the new Notify key, select New > DWORD (32-bit) Value,
    and name it DiscontinueEOS.
    7) Double-click the DiscontinueEOS value and set its Value data to 1.
    8) Close the Registry Editor and restart your PC for the changes to take effect.




    Thanks for that!
    Unlike Nil, I _have_ implemented the thing to get updates: I presume the
    above only turns off the nag thing, not the updates?

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Just because you're old it doesn't mean you go beige. Quite the reverse.
    - Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen, RT 2015/7/11-17

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nil@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 15:11:37 2025
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    On 2025/11/23 22:45:47, Support Person wrote:

    Permanent Method:
    This method involves adding a specific key to the Windows
    Registry to explicitly stop end of service (EOS) notifications.
    Incorrect registry edits can cause system instability, so proceed
    with caution.

    1) Open the Run dialog box by pressing the Windows key + R.
    2) Type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
    3) Navigate to the following key in the left-hand pane:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpda
    te.

    4) If the WindowsUpdate key does not exist, right-click on the
    Windows folder, select New > Key, and name it WindowsUpdate.
    5) Right-click on the WindowsUpdate key, select New > Key, and
    name it Notify.
    6) Right-click on the new Notify key, select New > DWORD (32-bit)
    Value, and name it DiscontinueEOS.
    7) Double-click the DiscontinueEOS value and set its Value data
    to 1. 8) Close the Registry Editor and restart your PC for the
    changes to take effect.

    Thanks for that!
    Unlike Nil, I _have_ implemented the thing to get updates: I
    presume the above only turns off the nag thing, not the updates?

    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From ...w¡ñ?±?ñ@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 13:47:04 2025
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.


    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.


    --
    ...w­¤?ñ?¤

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 22:00:12 2025
    On 2025-11-24 21:47, ...w­¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.


    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    ÿKB5066791 is the last one.

    Not if you enrol in the extended support thing for one year, which is
    gratis.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nil@3:633/10 to All on Mon Nov 24 18:25:46 2025
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From ...w¡ñ?±?ñ@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 01:51:08 2025
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 4:25 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.


    History may prove otherwise. Windows 8.1 end of support was 2 years ago,
    no Windows Updates since then for Home or Pro editions.
    - Windows 10 is likely to follow the same pattern for Home and Pro
    devices not enrolled in the Extended Security Update program which
    provides, and only provides updates for one year(Nov 25 to Oct 26).

    On Windows 10 Windows Security(Antivirus/Antimalware) application which
    uses Defender for part of its protection continues to be updated until
    Oct 2028.


    --
    ...w­¤?ñ?¤

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From wasbit@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 09:12:17 2025
    On 25/11/2025 08:51, ...w­¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 4:25 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    ÿÿ KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.


    History may prove otherwise. Windows 8.1 end of support was 2 years ago,
    no Windows Updates since then for Home or Pro editions.
    ÿ- Windows 10 is likely to follow the same pattern for Home and Pro
    devices not enrolled in the Extended Security Update program which
    provides, and only provides updates for one year(Nov 25 to Oct 26).


    I beg to differ.
    I am still getting updates for Windows 8.1 as well as daily updates for Windows Defender definitions.
    There wouldn't be much point in using Windows Defender if there were no
    new definitions.

    On Windows 10 Windows Security(Antivirus/Antimalware) application which
    uses Defender for part of its protection continues to be updated until
    Oct 2028.





    --
    Regards
    wasbit

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From ...w¡ñ?±?ñ@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 02:34:37 2025
    wasbit wrote on 11/25/2025 2:12 AM:
    On 25/11/2025 08:51, ...w­¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 4:25 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10 >>>>> updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is >>>>> not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    ÿÿ KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.


    History may prove otherwise. Windows 8.1 end of support was 2 years
    ago, no Windows Updates since then for Home or Pro editions.
    ÿÿ- Windows 10 is likely to follow the same pattern for Home and Pro
    devices not enrolled in the Extended Security Update program which
    provides, and only provides updates for one year(Nov 25 to Oct 26).


    I beg to differ.
    I am still getting updates for Windows 8.1 as well as daily updates for Windows Defender definitions.
    There wouldn't be much point in using Windows Defender if there were no
    new definitions.

    On Windows 10 Windows Security(Antivirus/Antimalware) application which
    uses Defender for part of its protection continues to be updated until
    Oct 2028.





    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-8-1-support-ended-on-january-10-2023-3cfd4cde-f611-496a-8057-923fba401e93#>

    "What does end of support mean?
    As of January 10, 2023, computers running Windows 8.1 will still
    function, but Microsoft will no longer provide the following:

    Technical support of any issue
    Software updates
    Security updates or fixes"

    --
    ...w­¤?ñ?¤

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 13:12:56 2025
    wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
    On 25/11/2025 08:51, ...w??? wrote:
    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 4:25 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    [...]
    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.

    History may prove otherwise. Windows 8.1 end of support was 2 years ago, no Windows Updates since then for Home or Pro editions.
    - Windows 10 is likely to follow the same pattern for Home and Pro devices not enrolled in the Extended Security Update program which provides, and only provides updates for one year(Nov 25 to Oct 26).

    I beg to differ.
    I am still getting updates for Windows 8.1 as well as daily updates for Windows Defender definitions.
    There wouldn't be much point in using Windows Defender if there were no
    new definitions.

    *Which* updates - other than Windows Defender definitions and other
    updates of Windows Defender components - do you still get?

    Please list ('View update history') a few with their KB number and description and the date you got them.

    I can imagine that you might still get updates of the 'Windows
    Malicious Software Removal Tool', but I doubt that you get any others
    (i.e. for Windows 8.1 itself and for things like .NET).

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 13:35:54 2025
    On 2025/11/24 23:25:46, Nil wrote:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.

    Putting "reli" in the search box, to open "Reliability Monitor", I am
    seeing little blue "i" circles a lot of days; for the last screenful, I
    see (click on each circle then "View technical details"):

    2025/11/9 three: WINDOWSALARMS, SolitaireCollection, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB 2025/11/13 one: Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.137 (KB890830) 2025/11/14 four: ZUNEVIDEO, WindowsAppRuntime.1.7, CoPilot, OFFICEHUB 2025/11/15 one: Cumulative update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5068781)
    2025/11/17 one: MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/18 one: Security Update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5072653)
    2025/11/19 three: WINDOWSSTORE, CoPilot, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/22 two: XboxGamingOverlay, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB

    So, updates still seem to be streaming in. (Not that I use the store,
    CoPilot, or Xbox.)


    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "Bother,"saidPoohwhenhisspacebarrefusedtowork.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From ...w­¤?ñ?¤@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 08:18:45 2025
    J. P. Gilliver wrote on 11/25/2025 6:35 AM:
    On 2025/11/24 23:25:46, Nil wrote:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 10
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer is
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.

    Putting "reli" in the search box, to open "Reliability Monitor", I am
    seeing little blue "i" circles a lot of days; for the last screenful, I
    see (click on each circle then "View technical details"):

    2025/11/9 three: WINDOWSALARMS, SolitaireCollection, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB 2025/11/13 one: Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.137 (KB890830) 2025/11/14 four: ZUNEVIDEO, WindowsAppRuntime.1.7, CoPilot, OFFICEHUB 2025/11/15 one: Cumulative update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5068781) 2025/11/17 one: MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/18 one: Security Update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5072653)
    2025/11/19 three: WINDOWSSTORE, CoPilot, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/22 two: XboxGamingOverlay, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB

    So, updates still seem to be streaming in. (Not that I use the store, CoPilot, or Xbox.)



    Solitaire, MSRT, CoPilot, Xbox are all app packages - delivered via the
    MSFT Store not Windows Update
    Office Hub - delivered via Office automatically for O2K16(and later
    versions) Click to Run and MSI installations

    KB5072653 and KB5068781
    Prerequisites for the ESU program
    To enable ESU for Windows 10, the following must be applied in the
    following order:
    Windows 10, version 22H2 with?KB5066791, or a later update installed.
    This Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation Package for
    Windows 10?(KB5072653). Note this preparation package must be
    installed?after the October 2025 security update (KB5066791) is installed.

    --
    ...w­¤?ñ?¤

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 15:39:51 2025
    On 2025/11/25 15:18:45, ...w­¤?ñ?¤ wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver wrote on 11/25/2025 6:35 AM:
    On 2025/11/24 23:25:46, Nil wrote:
    On 24 Nov 2025, =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?=
    <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

    Nil wrote on 11/24/2025 1:11 PM:
    On 24 Nov 2025, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in
    alt.comp.os.windows-10:
    Just in case I wasn't clear - I still want to receive any Windows 1
    0
    updates, just not be nagged about Windows 11, since this computer i
    s
    not able to run it.

    Updates for Windows 10 ceased in October 2025.
    KB5066791 is the last one.

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though
    they say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also,
    Defender AV updates continue.

    Putting "reli" in the search box, to open "Reliability Monitor", I am

    []

    So, updates still seem to be streaming in. (Not that I use the store,
    CoPilot, or Xbox.)



    Solitaire, MSRT, CoPilot, Xbox are all app packages - delivered via the

    MSFT Store not Windows Update

    (Not _really_ bothered, but since I don't use any of those, can I turn
    that off, and if so how?) So the "MSFT Store" continues?

    Office Hub - delivered via Office automatically for O2K16(and later versions) Click to Run and MSI installations

    I have Office 2003. Nothing later.>
    KB5072653 and KB5068781
    Prerequisites for the ESU program
    To enable ESU for Windows 10, the following must be applied in the
    following order:
    Windows 10, version 22H2 with?KB5066791, or a later update inst
    alled.
    This Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation Package for

    Windows 10?(KB5072653). Note this preparation package must be installed?after the October 2025 security update (KB5066791) is
    installed.

    Reli still shows them as "Windows successfully installed the following
    update".


    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    The Daily Mail has led the campaign to limit pornography - "it demeans
    and belittles women," they explain, "and that's our job."
    (Sandi Toksvig [scripted], News Quiz 2013-7-26.)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 16:30:08 2025
    ...w??? <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver wrote on 11/25/2025 6:35 AM:
    [...]
    Putting "reli" in the search box, to open "Reliability Monitor", I am seeing little blue "i" circles a lot of days; for the last screenful, I
    see (click on each circle then "View technical details"):

    2025/11/9 three: WINDOWSALARMS, SolitaireCollection, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB 2025/11/13 one: Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.137 (KB890830) 2025/11/14 four: ZUNEVIDEO, WindowsAppRuntime.1.7, CoPilot, OFFICEHUB 2025/11/15 one: Cumulative update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5068781) 2025/11/17 one: MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/18 one: Security Update for Windows 10 22H2 64 (KB5072653) 2025/11/19 three: WINDOWSSTORE, CoPilot, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB
    2025/11/22 two: XboxGamingOverlay, MICROSOFTOFFICEHUB

    So, updates still seem to be streaming in. (Not that I use the store, CoPilot, or Xbox.)

    Solitaire, MSRT, CoPilot, Xbox are all app packages - delivered via the
    MSFT Store not Windows Update

    Are you sure about that for the MSRT (Malicious Software Removal
    Tool)?

    MSRT updates show up in Windows Update when they are downloading,
    installing and completed and they show up in (Windows update) 'Update
    history', but the other mentioned app packages do *not* show up in
    Windows Update (but, as shown, do show up in the 'Reliability Monitor').

    It would also be somewhat strange for the MSRT updates to be delivered
    via the Microsoft Store, because MSRT updates were delivered via Windows
    Update before 'apps' and hence the Microsoft Store even existed, so why
    would they be moved to the Microsoft Store?

    [...]

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Mark Lloyd@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 19:26:56 2025
    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 18:25:46 -0500, Nil wrote:

    [snip]

    My experience with earlier versions of Windows is that, even though they
    say there will be no more updates, there sometimes are. Also, Defender
    AV updates continue.

    That, and Chromium Edge is supposed to be updated for another year.

    Firefox usually takes a few years to give up on supporting a EOL OS. At
    this time, they're still making security updates for W7.

    --
    30 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "I'm so old I can remember when other people's achievements were
    considered to be an inspiration rather than a grievance." --Thomas
    Sowell

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Mark Lloyd@3:633/10 to All on Tue Nov 25 19:31:13 2025
    On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 09:12:17 +0000, wasbit wrote:

    [snip]

    I beg to differ.
    I am still getting updates for Windows 8.1 as well as daily updates for Windows Defender definitions.
    There wouldn't be much point in using Windows Defender if there were no
    new definitions.

    I have two Win7 installations. One gets those regular Defender updates.
    The other one doesn't because its on a unsupported CPU*.

    * - a VM that's been transplanted from a dead host machine to a newer
    system.

    [snip]

    --
    30 days until the winter celebration (Thursday, December 25, 2025 12:00
    AM for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "I'm so old I can remember when other people's achievements were
    considered to be an inspiration rather than a grievance." --Thomas
    Sowell

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.1
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)