• 2 Gbps bandwidth service tier, but only 930 Mbps

    From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 10 20:59:04 2026
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    https://speedtest.xfinity.com/ is Comcast's speed test site, so you stay
    within their network. https://www.speedtest.net/ is Ookla's speed test
    site, and is outside Comcast's network.

    I asked my ISP (Comcast) several times if they had provisioned the cable
    modem to bind a sufficient number of bands to achieve the higher
    bandwidth, and they kept saying yes. I remember a couple times when
    they reprovisioned the cable modem, because I saw the lights change on
    the cable modem, and lost the Internet.

    I checked the specs on their cable modem (XB6, XB7, XB8, and XB10). XB6
    to XB8 support up to 2.5 Gbps. XB10 supports 10 Gbps. I had the XB7,
    but replaced with the XB8 to see if changing to a later model got the
    higher speed. Nope.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the motherboard: Asrock Taichi Z390. The specs at:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification

    say the NIC supports 10/100/1000 Mbps. Well, there looks to be the
    bottleneck. Maybe the pipe is bigger from the cable modem, and beyond,
    but the choke point is my mobo's onboard NIC.

    I've got a couple unused and unblocked PCIe 3.0x16 slots available, so
    guess I'll have to get a faster NIC daughtercard. Looks like those
    slots should handle up to 16 GBps (that's big B for byte, not little b
    for bit) bandwidth. 16 lanes with each capable of delivering 980 MBps
    is 15.7 GBps across all 16 lanes. Seems like a PCIe 3.0 x16 could
    easily support 2 Gbps bandwidth. However, all the NICs look like PCIe
    3.0 x1, so only 1 lane. With just 1 lane, seems the PCIe 3.0 x1 NIC
    could only get up to 960 MBps, or 7680 Mbps, but that's a lot faster
    than the 930 Mbps I get now with the onboard NIC.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 10 23:23:39 2026
    On Sat, 1/10/2026 9:59 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    https://speedtest.xfinity.com/ is Comcast's speed test site, so you stay within their network. https://www.speedtest.net/ is Ookla's speed test
    site, and is outside Comcast's network.

    I asked my ISP (Comcast) several times if they had provisioned the cable modem to bind a sufficient number of bands to achieve the higher
    bandwidth, and they kept saying yes. I remember a couple times when
    they reprovisioned the cable modem, because I saw the lights change on
    the cable modem, and lost the Internet.

    I checked the specs on their cable modem (XB6, XB7, XB8, and XB10). XB6
    to XB8 support up to 2.5 Gbps. XB10 supports 10 Gbps. I had the XB7,
    but replaced with the XB8 to see if changing to a later model got the
    higher speed. Nope.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the motherboard: Asrock Taichi Z390. The specs at:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification

    say the NIC supports 10/100/1000 Mbps. Well, there looks to be the bottleneck. Maybe the pipe is bigger from the cable modem, and beyond,
    but the choke point is my mobo's onboard NIC.

    I've got a couple unused and unblocked PCIe 3.0x16 slots available, so
    guess I'll have to get a faster NIC daughtercard. Looks like those
    slots should handle up to 16 GBps (that's big B for byte, not little b
    for bit) bandwidth. 16 lanes with each capable of delivering 980 MBps
    is 15.7 GBps across all 16 lanes. Seems like a PCIe 3.0 x16 could
    easily support 2 Gbps bandwidth. However, all the NICs look like PCIe
    3.0 x1, so only 1 lane. With just 1 lane, seems the PCIe 3.0 x1 NIC
    could only get up to 960 MBps, or 7680 Mbps, but that's a lot faster
    than the 930 Mbps I get now with the onboard NIC.


    They are NOT all one lane cards.

    The proposed (new) RealTek fleet of garbage, have x1 and x2 chips. They
    are mainly intended for a non-existence massive number of PCs with
    available PCIe Rev4 slots. I would have to use my only video card
    slot, to host a RealTek one. Plugging to a PCie Rev3 slot would be useless
    and a waste of cash. If you're going to buy a whizzy rate card, it had
    bloody well work.

    This chip was one of the first chips to offer 10GbE at a more reasonable price. The company may have been bought by the company that buys small firms like this.
    (Aquantia AQC107, to Marvell?).

    Syba is just a user of the technology and does not make the chip. Syba used
    to be offered with domestic distribution, but so far it's not looking good.
    At a computer store, maybe an Asus version of the card might exist
    (not a BestBuy a real computer store). I checked my computer store chain,
    and searching for that was a "No match". No AQC107 on site.

    Syba 1 Port 10 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card - PCIe x4
    10Gb 10GBASE-T NIC AQTION AQC107-10Gbps Ethernet PCI-Express x4 Adapter SD-PEX24055

    Because it has x4 lanes, it would suit a larger audience of computer users.

    It looks like the Newegg listing, the only source is buying cards with that from China. There does not seem to be any domestic distribution.

    While Intel keeps cranking out melons, I don't think the price is
    coming down anywhere near reasonable levels.

    In the era-of-shortage, good luck on your journey.

    And before you buy something, find a benchmark where someone has
    tested the thing under realistic conditions. It's still possible
    if you arrange for a slot with sufficient bandwidth, that the thing
    *still* does not deliver.

    At one time, the chipset hub for PCIe did not have big enough
    buffers. This caused a PCIe rev3 to run at a PCie rev2 rate (small
    buffers cut max PCIe rates to about half). The current NVMe seem to be
    doing better in terms of acquiring most of the bandwidth an interface
    has to offer, suggesting the buffer sizing problem was corrected. That's one
    of the potential reasons why buying cards for all the computers in the
    room, a 12 year old machine might not manage full rate.

    Remember that in Win2K days, the network stack could only manage 40MB/sec
    out of a max of 112MB/sec on a 1GbE interface. Later OSes tend to correct
    those sorts of sins. But it is still possible a Win11 Home cannot manage ~1100MB/sec on a AQC107. That's why you need to find a bench for whatever (Intel) chip happens to be available where you are. I got a pair of lower
    rate Intel from Startech a couple years ago, and they weren't cheap, but
    they were Intel (and not the broken RealTek I was replacing).

    *******

    OK, Project Overkill is underway... 2 NIC ports :-)

    https://www.startech.com/en-us/networking-io/st10gspexndp2

    And you won't need Jumbo Frame Support, as that is unlikely to
    mesh nicely with your BB end of things.

    But at least the card does not cost $500 like some of them used to.

    Paul

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 12:03:42 2026
    On 2026/1/11 4:23:39, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 1/10/2026 9:59 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No

    []

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the

    []

    They are NOT all one lane cards.

    []

    Paul

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that
    speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been
    told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking
    of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    If it were not for France, the Americans would be speaking English
    right now. - @mrbrown9z on YouTube, about June 2025

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 08:25:38 2026
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/1/11 4:23:39, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 1/10/2026 9:59 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No

    []

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the

    []

    They are NOT all one lane cards.

    []

    Paul

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that
    speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been
    told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking
    of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)


    When you pay a premium for a certain tier of service, it is
    common practice to check the service the day it is "turned up".

    It's also a test of your technical chops, installing equipment
    which can verify the promise the ISP is making. Over on DSLreports,
    in the early days of "weird fibre offerings", there would be tales
    of people trying to find this-and-that, so they could test their
    new "weird 3Gbit/sec service". At the time, 10GbE was a little less
    common as a card in a PC.

    And we do this, because in the early days, we were cheated,
    we were treated badly. The maxim "an elephant never forgets"
    comes to mind. "THIS is why we test" :-) It's that
    elephant thing and being treated like crap by an ISP.

    It would be a mighty server, that would agree to deliver
    at 2Gbit/sec. Speedtest.net (which runs cached in the ISP
    facility), is an example of a server that doesn't burn up
    transit fees, but still allows buzzing out the local loop.

    Paul

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 09:13:20 2026
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that
    speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been
    told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking
    of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)


    In some cases, with new things, you don't find out until you get there.

    Normally, 2Gbit/sec could support quite a few PCs doing web browsing.

    And a ton of TV sets.

    And even when you pay for a 4K tier of video service, you
    don't always get it. I don't know if there is enough 8K service
    for that to be a thing yet.

    But when you want that Microsoft Win10 installer DVD, it's
    not going to take long on that sort of service. Get the URL,
    fire up aria2c (to open multiple connections), and "test their server" :-)

    You no longer have to worry about your Zoom session being jerky.
    For once, it's better than the doctors setup at the other end :-)

    One of my doctors used to conference with some big-assed Mac
    screen, while I was transmitting at 640x480 or so (due to my
    upload limitations). I was concerned at first, that conference
    services wouldn't be possible on my shitty upload, but
    they worked. There was still a little headroom.

    Paul


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 15:19:11 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps
    under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to
    your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal
    cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible
    under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps
    in real life.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 17:09:35 2026
    On 2026/1/11 14:13:20, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that
    speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been
    told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking
    of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)


    In some cases, with new things, you don't find out until you get there.

    Normally, 2Gbit/sec could support quite a few PCs doing web browsing.

    And a ton of TV sets.

    That's what I was thinking - how can he possibly be using that much
    capacity! (I know in a few years' time that'll seem quaint, of course.)


    And even when you pay for a 4K tier of video service, you
    don't always get it. I don't know if there is enough 8K service
    for that to be a thing yet.

    But, indeed (and as you said in your other post), some have been
    mis-sold by providers in the past. (Though in this case the OP said he'd
    been told of the doubling but not charged any extra for it.)


    But when you want that Microsoft Win10 installer DVD, it's
    not going to take long on that sort of service. Get the URL,
    fire up aria2c (to open multiple connections), and "test their server" :-)

    True, such downloads are always nice to have fast. (Has _mostly_ not
    been _that_ significant in my case, as I've generally not had _too_ big
    a drive to put things on, so my downloading new OSs and things of that
    size has _tended_ not to be something I did often.)


    You no longer have to worry about your Zoom session being jerky.
    For once, it's better than the doctors setup at the other end :-)

    One of my doctors used to conference with some big-assed Mac
    screen, while I was transmitting at 640x480 or so (due to my
    upload limitations). I was concerned at first, that conference
    services wouldn't be possible on my shitty upload, but
    they worked. There was still a little headroom.

    Paul

    Never had a video session with a doctor yet - only audio (via
    landline!). [Free at point of use, of course.]

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people
    what they don't want to hear. - Preface to "Animal Farm"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 18:31:54 2026
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    On 2026/1/11 14:13:20, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that
    speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been
    told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking >>> of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)


    In some cases, with new things, you don't find out until you get there.

    Normally, 2Gbit/sec could support quite a few PCs doing web browsing.

    And a ton of TV sets.

    That's what I was thinking - how can he possibly be using that much
    capacity! (I know in a few years' time that'll seem quaint, of course.)

    I've said for a long time that 99% of domestic users don't actually need anything more that 50Mbps. What they do need is reliable symmetric speeds
    and better latency.

    Some media or technical people who work remotely from the office may
    require a 200-300Mbps connection, but that's a very small number of people.


    It's simply marketing.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 19:11:42 2026
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    On 2026/1/11 14:13:20, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that >>> speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been >>> told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking >>> of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)

    In some cases, with new things, you don't find out until you get there.

    Normally, 2Gbit/sec could support quite a few PCs doing web browsing.

    And a ton of TV sets.

    That's what I was thinking - how can he possibly be using that much capacity! (I know in a few years' time that'll seem quaint, of course.)

    I've said for a long time that 99% of domestic users don't actually need anything more that 50Mbps. What they do need is reliable symmetric speeds
    and better latency.

    Indeed. For my (cable) ISP, the *minimum* available speed was 50Mbps,
    as long ago as 2019! (Now it's 250Mbps.)

    'Even' for watching (Full HD) TV, 10Mbps is fine. I got that in April
    2011, nearly 15 years ago.

    I started as 'low' as 300*K*bps in 2003 and before that, in the late
    90's, we did (technical support) work-from-home at 64Kbps, yes with full
    GUIs.

    High bit-rates are a bit *over* rated! :-)

    Some media or technical people who work remotely from the office may
    require a 200-300Mbps connection, but that's a very small number of people.

    It's simply marketing.

    One of my kids had to give up DVB-C TV in order to get lower
    bandwidth/cost Internet. That lower bandwidth was of course fine to
    watch IP-TV. Go figure!?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 20:25:31 2026
    On 2026/1/11 18:31:54, Chris wrote:

    []

    I've said for a long time that 99% of domestic users don't actually need anything more that 50Mbps. What they do need is reliable symmetric speeds
    and better latency.

    Well, I'm perfectly happy with my about 40, but there's only one of me,
    I'm not a gamer, and if I do download video, there's no point in getting
    more than 1080. Very occasionally if I download a _big_ piece of
    software, or a full movie, it'd be nice to get them quicker, but that's
    on average less than once a week.

    Some media or technical people who work remotely from the office may
    require a 200-300Mbps connection, but that's a very small number of people.

    I can see that maybe also a household with two working parents and two
    or three teenagers might need similar. Though only at peak times.


    It's simply marketing.

    It does seem that way. Though arguably it would also make economic sense
    to fit maximum capacity for everyone, rather than messing about with
    mixed technologies/capacities; but that would involve forward planning,
    which neither the companies nor the authorities are much good at.

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
    Religion is answers that may never be questioned.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 15:59:06 2026
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 1:31 PM, Chris wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    On 2026/1/11 14:13:20, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 7:03 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Just out of curiosity - what are you actually _doing_ that _needs_ that >>>> speed - or, are you just trying to achieve it anyway, since you've been >>>> told you've been given the (free) upgrade? (It's not that you're talking >>>> of a multi-user household, as you're talking about one PC here.)


    In some cases, with new things, you don't find out until you get there.

    Normally, 2Gbit/sec could support quite a few PCs doing web browsing.

    And a ton of TV sets.

    That's what I was thinking - how can he possibly be using that much
    capacity! (I know in a few years' time that'll seem quaint, of course.)

    I've said for a long time that 99% of domestic users don't actually need anything more that 50Mbps. What they do need is reliable symmetric speeds
    and better latency.

    Some media or technical people who work remotely from the office may
    require a 200-300Mbps connection, but that's a very small number of people.


    It's simply marketing.


    You could do a Macrium backup to OneDrive, at wire speed.

    Think how that would annoy Microsoft.

    Paul


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 16:50:42 2026
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps
    in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    Look at the transfer rates they run at on Internet2 for inspiration.

    And having PCIe Rev5 in consumer computers, helps blow the top
    off "limitations". As long as you have networking hardware with
    interrupt consolidation, you can run hella fast. Normally you would
    not expect to be able to use Jumbo Frames, so that is just a
    marketing thing in a lot of situations. For example, if you do
    ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), I don't think that will pass
    a Jumbo Frame from one side to the other, so you have to turn that off.

    It's much better to just have some acceleration features in the NIC
    or equivalent.

    The hardware in the datacenter, the "wiring" they use, puts our
    home wiring to shame. The servers are plenty capable of running
    faster, and the fastness makes it all the way to the edge of the
    building.

    You have wire speed DPI boxes on the outside edges of the Internet.
    You can filter whatever you want. Thus, when setting up a server,
    you can afford to be more imaginative, because you have a layered
    protection model. (Cloudflare, ISP DPI). If you want to allow
    a customer to run at 2Gbit/sec, you can do it. You have load balancers
    and whizzy schemes to distribute loads, the wiring on the server
    is plenty fast, and so on.

    The connect time will be short, so you can still statistically multiplex
    with the short/fast connections. Van won't be running 2Gbit/sec continuously. The super-high-speed connection will only last for 30 seconds.

    I'm just amazed, that the box at my corner, can mix high
    speed customers, and me on my puny connection, with (almost)
    no side effects.

    It's just a lack of imagination, that gives the old/conservative results.
    Some of our servers are set up like it is the year 2000 (one Microsoft
    server was serving at 300KB/sec...).

    Paul

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 12 07:02:35 2026
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    On 2026/1/11 18:31:54, Chris wrote:

    []

    I've said for a long time that 99% of domestic users don't actually need
    anything more that 50Mbps. What they do need is reliable symmetric speeds
    and better latency.

    Well, I'm perfectly happy with my about 40, but there's only one of me,
    I'm not a gamer, and if I do download video, there's no point in getting
    more than 1080. Very occasionally if I download a _big_ piece of
    software, or a full movie, it'd be nice to get them quicker, but that's
    on average less than once a week.

    Some media or technical people who work remotely from the office may
    require a 200-300Mbps connection, but that's a very small number of people. >>
    I can see that maybe also a household with two working parents and two
    or three teenagers might need similar. Though only at peak times.

    During COVID we had three adults working in the house, plus a teenager
    doing school work. On a 35Mbps line. Lots of netflix, youtube, snapchat etc being used. Not one issue.

    4K streaming is also fine.

    The one thing a gamer would benefit from is when new games are released.
    Those things are huge. Other than that gaming doesn't need high bandwidth,
    it needs low latency.


    It's simply marketing.

    It does seem that way. Though arguably it would also make economic sense
    to fit maximum capacity for everyone, rather than messing about with
    mixed technologies/capacities; but that would involve forward planning,
    which neither the companies nor the authorities are much good at.





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 20:27:47 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    https://speedtest.xfinity.com/ is Comcast's speed test site, so you stay within their network. https://www.speedtest.net/ is Ookla's speed test
    site, and is outside Comcast's network.

    I asked my ISP (Comcast) several times if they had provisioned the cable modem to bind a sufficient number of bands to achieve the higher
    bandwidth, and they kept saying yes. I remember a couple times when
    they reprovisioned the cable modem, because I saw the lights change on
    the cable modem, and lost the Internet.

    I checked the specs on their cable modem (XB6, XB7, XB8, and XB10). XB6
    to XB8 support up to 2.5 Gbps. XB10 supports 10 Gbps. I had the XB7,
    but replaced with the XB8 to see if changing to a later model got the
    higher speed. Nope.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the motherboard: Asrock Taichi Z390. The specs at:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification

    say the NIC supports 10/100/1000 Mbps. Well, there looks to be the bottleneck. Maybe the pipe is bigger from the cable modem, and beyond,
    but the choke point is my mobo's onboard NIC.

    I've got a couple unused and unblocked PCIe 3.0x16 slots available, so
    guess I'll have to get a faster NIC daughtercard. Looks like those
    slots should handle up to 16 GBps (that's big B for byte, not little b
    for bit) bandwidth. 16 lanes with each capable of delivering 980 MBps
    is 15.7 GBps across all 16 lanes. Seems like a PCIe 3.0 x16 could
    easily support 2 Gbps bandwidth. However, all the NICs look like PCIe
    3.0 x1, so only 1 lane. With just 1 lane, seems the PCIe 3.0 x1 NIC
    could only get up to 960 MBps, or 7680 Mbps, but that's a lot faster
    than the 930 Mbps I get now with the onboard NIC.

    Got a Wavlink WL-NWP002 2.5 Gbps PCIe network card. Before and after installing the driver, no change in speed. The same as before.
    Experiment failed.

    When I go into the adapter settings, and look at the properties of the
    new NIC, it says:

    Speed: 1.0 Gbps

    Of course, it is possible the speed sites I used cannot surpass 1 Gpbs.
    Or the PCIe 3.0 slots in my mobo cannot handle the higher rate.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 00:10:14 2026
    On Fri, 1/16/2026 9:27 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    https://speedtest.xfinity.com/ is Comcast's speed test site, so you stay
    within their network. https://www.speedtest.net/ is Ookla's speed test
    site, and is outside Comcast's network.

    I asked my ISP (Comcast) several times if they had provisioned the cable
    modem to bind a sufficient number of bands to achieve the higher
    bandwidth, and they kept saying yes. I remember a couple times when
    they reprovisioned the cable modem, because I saw the lights change on
    the cable modem, and lost the Internet.

    I checked the specs on their cable modem (XB6, XB7, XB8, and XB10). XB6
    to XB8 support up to 2.5 Gbps. XB10 supports 10 Gbps. I had the XB7,
    but replaced with the XB8 to see if changing to a later model got the
    higher speed. Nope.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the
    motherboard: Asrock Taichi Z390. The specs at:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification

    say the NIC supports 10/100/1000 Mbps. Well, there looks to be the
    bottleneck. Maybe the pipe is bigger from the cable modem, and beyond,
    but the choke point is my mobo's onboard NIC.

    I've got a couple unused and unblocked PCIe 3.0x16 slots available, so
    guess I'll have to get a faster NIC daughtercard. Looks like those
    slots should handle up to 16 GBps (that's big B for byte, not little b
    for bit) bandwidth. 16 lanes with each capable of delivering 980 MBps
    is 15.7 GBps across all 16 lanes. Seems like a PCIe 3.0 x16 could
    easily support 2 Gbps bandwidth. However, all the NICs look like PCIe
    3.0 x1, so only 1 lane. With just 1 lane, seems the PCIe 3.0 x1 NIC
    could only get up to 960 MBps, or 7680 Mbps, but that's a lot faster
    than the 930 Mbps I get now with the onboard NIC.

    Got a Wavlink WL-NWP002 2.5 Gbps PCIe network card. Before and after installing the driver, no change in speed. The same as before.
    Experiment failed.

    When I go into the adapter settings, and look at the properties of the
    new NIC, it says:

    Speed: 1.0 Gbps

    Of course, it is possible the speed sites I used cannot surpass 1 Gpbs.
    Or the PCIe 3.0 slots in my mobo cannot handle the higher rate.


    See if there is a speed control.

    The adapter should really auto-negotiate.

    But apparently there is some interface people refer
    to, that allow turning it down to 1GbE.

    I don't know if this would be in the Device Manager interface
    or not. Generally, Microsoft kinda smothers custom panels,
    and you'd need to download a driver kit from RealTek for it.

    On Windows, the RealTek driver is likely to be virtualized
    (wrapped to protect kernel). It, and NVidia, are the two
    that I know of that are virtualized. This should not make
    any difference to your experiment.

    If the other end is 1GbE, then there is no reason for the
    adapter to go faster than the other hardware.

    Paul


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Char Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 23:31:00 2026
    On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 20:27:47 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Got a Wavlink WL-NWP002 2.5 Gbps PCIe network card. Before and after >installing the driver, no change in speed. The same as before.
    Experiment failed.

    When I go into the adapter settings, and look at the properties of the
    new NIC, it says:

    Speed: 1.0 Gbps

    That normally means that your new NIC and the device to which it is
    physically connected have negotiated a max speed of 1Gbps. The XB7 modem
    has 3 Gig ports and one 2.5Gbps port, so be sure you're connected to the
    proper port on the modem. In the photos that I've seen, it's the 4th
    port and it may have a small red vertical bar next to it to indicate
    that it's somewhat special. Google says that port can also be configured
    as a WAN port, and if you've done that, then there will be no 2.5Gbps
    port available for you on the LAN side.

    Of course, it is possible the speed sites I used cannot surpass 1 Gpbs.
    Or the PCIe 3.0 slots in my mobo cannot handle the higher rate.

    Those two conditions wouldn't/shouldn't affect the negotiated link rate.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 01:13:07 2026
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 1/16/2026 9:27 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    https://speedtest.xfinity.com/ is Comcast's speed test site, so you stay >>> within their network. https://www.speedtest.net/ is Ookla's speed test
    site, and is outside Comcast's network.

    I asked my ISP (Comcast) several times if they had provisioned the cable >>> modem to bind a sufficient number of bands to achieve the higher
    bandwidth, and they kept saying yes. I remember a couple times when
    they reprovisioned the cable modem, because I saw the lights change on
    the cable modem, and lost the Internet.

    I checked the specs on their cable modem (XB6, XB7, XB8, and XB10). XB6 >>> to XB8 support up to 2.5 Gbps. XB10 supports 10 Gbps. I had the XB7,
    but replaced with the XB8 to see if changing to a later model got the
    higher speed. Nope.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Then I pondered if there was a bottleneck in my setup. Maybe the fault
    is on my end. The NIC I'm using in the desktop PC is integral to the
    motherboard: Asrock Taichi Z390. The specs at:

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z390%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification

    say the NIC supports 10/100/1000 Mbps. Well, there looks to be the
    bottleneck. Maybe the pipe is bigger from the cable modem, and beyond,
    but the choke point is my mobo's onboard NIC.

    I've got a couple unused and unblocked PCIe 3.0x16 slots available, so
    guess I'll have to get a faster NIC daughtercard. Looks like those
    slots should handle up to 16 GBps (that's big B for byte, not little b
    for bit) bandwidth. 16 lanes with each capable of delivering 980 MBps
    is 15.7 GBps across all 16 lanes. Seems like a PCIe 3.0 x16 could
    easily support 2 Gbps bandwidth. However, all the NICs look like PCIe
    3.0 x1, so only 1 lane. With just 1 lane, seems the PCIe 3.0 x1 NIC
    could only get up to 960 MBps, or 7680 Mbps, but that's a lot faster
    than the 930 Mbps I get now with the onboard NIC.

    Got a Wavlink WL-NWP002 2.5 Gbps PCIe network card. Before and after
    installing the driver, no change in speed. The same as before.
    Experiment failed.

    When I go into the adapter settings, and look at the properties of the
    new NIC, it says:

    Speed: 1.0 Gbps

    Of course, it is possible the speed sites I used cannot surpass 1 Gpbs.
    Or the PCIe 3.0 slots in my mobo cannot handle the higher rate.


    See if there is a speed control.

    Didn't find any speed control for the device as listed in Device
    Manager, or for the properties of the NIC.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 01:45:37 2026
    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 20:27:47 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Got a Wavlink WL-NWP002 2.5 Gbps PCIe network card. Before and after >>installing the driver, no change in speed. The same as before.
    Experiment failed.

    When I go into the adapter settings, and look at the properties of the
    new NIC, it says:

    Speed: 1.0 Gbps

    That normally means that your new NIC and the device to which it is physically connected have negotiated a max speed of 1Gbps. The XB7 modem
    has 3 Gig ports and one 2.5Gbps port, so be sure you're connected to the proper port on the modem. In the photos that I've seen, it's the 4th
    port and it may have a small red vertical bar next to it to indicate
    that it's somewhat special. Google says that port can also be configured
    as a WAN port, and if you've done that, then there will be no 2.5Gbps
    port available for you on the LAN side.

    Of course, it is possible the speed sites I used cannot surpass 1 Gpbs.
    Or the PCIe 3.0 slots in my mobo cannot handle the higher rate.

    Those two conditions wouldn't/shouldn't affect the negotiated link rate.

    https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides

    Doesn't mention different speeds for the Ethernet (wired) ports. There
    is a link to a "manual" where maybe they'd have a pic showing the device
    and its ports. Nope. Worthless.

    Looked at the backside where are the RJ-45 ports, but no markings to differentiate them other than 1, 2, 3, and 4 to number them. There was
    a red thin line next to port 4, but couldn't see it until I unplug the
    cables from ports 1 and 2 on the other side. With 4 CAT5 cables coming
    into the modem, and all of them the same brand, same jacks on the ends,
    and all the same gray, I had to unplug one at a time to check when my
    desktop PC lost network access. I put that cable into port 4 with the
    red line.

    Huge difference in Mbps speed.
    down up
    speedtest.net: 2322 300
    speedtest.xfinity.net: 2242 98

    Comcast's speedtest always measures low on upstream speed. The
    downstream speeds more than doubled.

    I never before noticed that red line next to a port, but then I wouldn't
    know what it meant. Well, that means one computer gets the faster
    service tier from Comcast, but not computers on the other ports. Argh.
    Getting manuals on the XB modems is tough. I found:

    https://www.cox.com/residential/support/technicolor-cgm4981.html

    which says:

    Ethernet port 4 on the bottom right is the only 2.5 Gbps ethernet
    port. The other three ethernet ports are 1 Gbps ethernet ports.

    When I was at the Xfinity store, they didn't have any XB10 models.

    https://quizlet.com/study-guides/overview-of-xfinity-wifi-gateway-models-and-features-776122af-cb09-4723-8d08-92bbea3b0c95

    That says:

    Ethernet Ports: Four total (Two 10 Gbps and Two 1 Gbps)


    So, double the highest speed ports, and 2 at the high speed.

    Of all the chats I've had with Comcast, no one mentioned moving my
    computer to the red-lined port. A red line. Who the hell would know
    that? Of course, I'm the most important computer user in my household,
    so I'm getting the lone 2.5 Gbps port. No one else would notice since 1
    Gbps is more than sufficient for their needs. For me, I was told we
    have 2 Gbps service, so I wanted it, like a bulldog fighting with a tire
    swing while snarling away.

    Thanks for pointing out which port is 2.5 Gbps. My old mobo NIC would
    only do 1 Gbps, so the new daughtercard NIC was needed to break the gig barrier. Do I notice a huge improvement in speed? Not so far. That's something I have to experience over time as I surf, especially at
    familiar sites to see if they load faster.

    Another choke point removed in the network path. Well, a choke point eliminated for only 1 computer. When the Xfinity store has the XB10,
    I'll swap out the XB8 that I have now, and get 2 10 Gbps ports. I'm not
    paying a ransom for 10 Gpbs NICs, but the 2.5 Gbps NIC from Wavlink was
    only $22.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Quality100-2-5G-Base-T-PCIe-Network-Card-2500-1000-100Mbps-PCI-Express-Ethernet-Adapter-RTL8125B-NIC-Windows-11-10-8-8-1-7-Linux-Low-Profile-Bracket/14271100163

    I owe you, bro. No kisses, though. Thanks.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 02:01:01 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Huge difference in Mbps speed.
    down up
    speedtest.net: 2322 300

    After the upgrade from 1 Gbps to 2.5 Gbps, websites are snappier (load
    faster). Even switching exit nodes in the VPN is faster. Even Youtube
    videos load faster (faster to enable the play button, and less time to
    buffer to start playing). Speed is addictive.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 11:35:53 2026
    On Sat, 1/17/2026 3:01 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Huge difference in Mbps speed.
    down up
    speedtest.net: 2322 300

    After the upgrade from 1 Gbps to 2.5 Gbps, websites are snappier (load faster). Even switching exit nodes in the VPN is faster. Even Youtube videos load faster (faster to enable the play button, and less time to
    buffer to start playing). Speed is addictive.


    You can buy a four port switch with 2.5GbE ports on it and
    connect the four port switch to the red-line port :-)

    That's how I run my computer room, from the "sub-broadband" broadband,
    is with a GbE switch for the local traffic. The WAN side can use
    rubbish standards, for the amount of bandwidth I've got.

    And the reason for suggesting a four port switch, is for the
    cost. There might be some more-capable boxes out there, but
    the price won't be right.

    Paul

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 11:33:32 2026
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    After the upgrade from 1 Gbps to 2.5 Gbps, websites are snappier (load
    faster). Even switching exit nodes in the VPN is faster. Even Youtube
    videos load faster (faster to enable the play button, and less time to
    buffer to start playing). Speed is addictive.

    You can buy a four port switch with 2.5GbE ports on it and connect the
    four port switch to the red-line port

    That might work provided each port gets full 2.5 Gbps support, but it is
    still 2.5 Gbps on the WAN side. Not all the connected computers are
    likely to be concurrently choking their LAN side port, though.

    https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=600052097%204814%20100158106%20601357222&d=ethernet+switch+2.5+gbps&Order=1

    Thanks for the tip. Sometimes the obvious escapes you.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 20:30:21 2026
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am
    still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps
    under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to
    your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal
    cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible
    under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps
    in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    That's my point. In order to benefit from such high bandwidth you need make sure every pipe between you and the source is capable of those speeds at
    load. For 99.9% of people that means buying new kit. And for what? You
    can't type any quicker, watch films any quicker, kill zombies any quicker,
    ...


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 15:32:48 2026
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am >>>> still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to
    effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps >>> under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to >>> your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal
    cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible >>> under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps >>> in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    That's my point. In order to benefit from such high bandwidth you need make sure every pipe between you and the source is capable of those speeds at load. For 99.9% of people that means buying new kit. And for what? You
    can't type any quicker, watch films any quicker, kill zombies any quicker, ...

    I disagree, and have proof.

    Watch films any quicker.
    The video doesn't play any faster since obviously you would end up
    watching the video in fast forward. However, the time to buffer the
    movie to eliminate jitter or other artifacts will be shorter. For
    example, when viewing a Youtube video, the time to load the buffer to
    when you get to start playing the movie is shorter. Much shorter. If
    you are capturing video streams, the streams are delivered faster, so it
    takes less time to snag them.

    Type any faster.
    Oh, puh-lease. Your computer is waiting eons between each keypress.
    Even when back on 2400 baud modems, your keypresses were far slower on
    your computer; however, the time to transfer your input to server is
    shorter.

    kill zombies any quicker
    Visit some gaming forums. they're always extolling how faster bandwidth
    makes their online video games more enjoyable, like faster reaction time
    to outplay another gamer, less hesitation, greater FPS, and so on.

    Yes, you can drink your coffee through a stirrer straw. Or you could
    put your lips on the cup rim to swallow. You get some coffee either
    way.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 18 01:08:43 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am >>>>> still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No
    increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to >>>>> effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps >>>> under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to >>>> your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal
    cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible >>>> under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps >>>> in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    That's my point. In order to benefit from such high bandwidth you need make >> sure every pipe between you and the source is capable of those speeds at
    load. For 99.9% of people that means buying new kit. And for what? You
    can't type any quicker, watch films any quicker, kill zombies any quicker, >> ...

    I disagree, and have proof.

    Watch films any quicker.
    The video doesn't play any faster since obviously you would end up
    watching the video in fast forward. However, the time to buffer the
    movie to eliminate jitter or other artifacts will be shorter.

    Of course. The human experience is no different, however.

    For
    example, when viewing a Youtube video, the time to load the buffer to
    when you get to start playing the movie is shorter. Much shorter.

    I experience sub-second response on 4G. Not sure what 2 Gbps will achieve.

    If
    you are capturing video streams, the streams are delivered faster, so it takes less time to snag them.

    Eh?

    Type any faster.
    Oh, puh-lease. Your computer is waiting eons between each keypress.
    Even when back on 2400 baud modems, your keypresses were far slower on
    your computer; however, the time to transfer your input to server is
    shorter.

    Shorter, sure. Impossible to notice on the human timescale.

    kill zombies any quicker
    Visit some gaming forums. they're always extolling how faster bandwidth makes their online video games more enjoyable, like faster reaction time
    to outplay another gamer, less hesitation, greater FPS, and so on.

    Latency is what matters not bandwidth. FPS is driven by your local
    hardware. Primarily the GPU. Internet bandwidth makes like difference
    nowadays.

    Yes, you can drink your coffee through a stirrer straw. Or you could
    put your lips on the cup rim to swallow. You get some coffee either
    way.





    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 20:06:30 2026
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am >>>>>> still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No >>>>>> increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to >>>>>> effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps >>>>> under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to >>>>> your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal >>>>> cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible >>>>> under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps >>>>> in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    That's my point. In order to benefit from such high bandwidth you need make >>> sure every pipe between you and the source is capable of those speeds at >>> load. For 99.9% of people that means buying new kit. And for what? You
    can't type any quicker, watch films any quicker, kill zombies any quicker, >>> ...

    I disagree, and have proof.

    Watch films any quicker.
    The video doesn't play any faster since obviously you would end up
    watching the video in fast forward. However, the time to buffer the
    movie to eliminate jitter or other artifacts will be shorter.

    Of course. The human experience is no different, however.

    For
    example, when viewing a Youtube video, the time to load the buffer to
    when you get to start playing the movie is shorter. Much shorter.

    I experience sub-second response on 4G. Not sure what 2 Gbps will achieve.

    If
    you are capturing video streams, the streams are delivered faster, so it
    takes less time to snag them.

    Eh?

    Type any faster.
    Oh, puh-lease. Your computer is waiting eons between each keypress.
    Even when back on 2400 baud modems, your keypresses were far slower on
    your computer; however, the time to transfer your input to server is
    shorter.

    Shorter, sure. Impossible to notice on the human timescale.

    kill zombies any quicker
    Visit some gaming forums. they're always extolling how faster bandwidth
    makes their online video games more enjoyable, like faster reaction time
    to outplay another gamer, less hesitation, greater FPS, and so on.

    Latency is what matters not bandwidth. FPS is driven by your local
    hardware. Primarily the GPU. Internet bandwidth makes like difference nowadays.

    Yes, you can drink your coffee through a stirrer straw. Or you could
    put your lips on the cup rim to swallow. You get some coffee either
    way.


    Argue as you may, I noticed everything is snappier.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Char Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 20:46:06 2026
    On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 01:45:37 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Of all the chats I've had with Comcast, no one mentioned moving my
    computer to the red-lined port. A red line. Who the hell would know
    that?

    Crazy, right? That's a fairly significant feature. No idea why they'd
    downplay it like that, but I'm glad you saw good results as soon as you
    made the change.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 18 05:35:41 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/11/2026 10:19 AM, Chris wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
    After a supposed upgrade from 1 Gpbs to 2 Gpbs for Internet speed, I am >>>>>>> still getting downstream and upstream speeds that I had before. No >>>>>>> increase in speed. I got the upgrade for free, but I'd still like to >>>>>>> effect the upgrade.

    Everything from source to endpoint needs to capable of running at 2 Gbps >>>>>> under load and with other traffic being managed.

    This is not going to happen except for things that are extremely close to
    your "edge" to the internet. Then you've got your router and internal >>>>>> cabling.

    Most hardware is rated "upto" certain speeds which will be only possible >>>>>> under ideal/lab conditions. I doubt you ever see anything close to 1 Gbps
    in real life.


    You're not trying hard enough.

    That's my point. In order to benefit from such high bandwidth you need make
    sure every pipe between you and the source is capable of those speeds at >>>> load. For 99.9% of people that means buying new kit. And for what? You >>>> can't type any quicker, watch films any quicker, kill zombies any quicker, >>>> ...

    I disagree, and have proof.

    Watch films any quicker.
    The video doesn't play any faster since obviously you would end up
    watching the video in fast forward. However, the time to buffer the
    movie to eliminate jitter or other artifacts will be shorter.

    Of course. The human experience is no different, however.

    For
    example, when viewing a Youtube video, the time to load the buffer to
    when you get to start playing the movie is shorter. Much shorter.

    I experience sub-second response on 4G. Not sure what 2 Gbps will achieve. >>
    If
    you are capturing video streams, the streams are delivered faster, so it >>> takes less time to snag them.

    Eh?

    Type any faster.
    Oh, puh-lease. Your computer is waiting eons between each keypress.
    Even when back on 2400 baud modems, your keypresses were far slower on
    your computer; however, the time to transfer your input to server is
    shorter.

    Shorter, sure. Impossible to notice on the human timescale.

    kill zombies any quicker
    Visit some gaming forums. they're always extolling how faster bandwidth >>> makes their online video games more enjoyable, like faster reaction time >>> to outplay another gamer, less hesitation, greater FPS, and so on.

    Latency is what matters not bandwidth. FPS is driven by your local
    hardware. Primarily the GPU. Internet bandwidth makes like difference
    nowadays.

    Yes, you can drink your coffee through a stirrer straw. Or you could
    put your lips on the cup rim to swallow. You get some coffee either
    way.


    Argue as you may, I noticed everything is snappier.


    Placebo effect ;)


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)