I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,
but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
It used to be possible to connect to a Gmail account using Outlook, butI think you can work around it, by MKLINK maybe. BUT, Outlook has only
it required a separate profile. Thus rendering the use of Outlook
pointless. Clearly a conscious design decision by Google.
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,
but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
Jim the Geordie wrote:
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem, but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
It used to be possible to connect to a Gmail account using Outlook, but
it required a separate profile. Thus rendering the use of Outlook pointless. Clearly a conscious design decision by Google.
So make your choice: browser-based email, or client-based. You can't
have both.
Jim the Geordie <jim@geordieland.com> wrote:
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,
but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my
desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have
finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
The latest version of Outlook. That could be for Office 365, Office
2023 standalone, or new Outlook (yep, "new" is part of the product
name). Microsoft is trying to change new Outlook to Outlook and Outlook standalone to Outlook Classic. Then there are the web apps at
Outlook.com, a web site, not a program, like Betterbird).
Assuming "Outlook" meant a standalone version of Outlook, I don't see
how any web browser - Opera, Edge, or Chrome - come into play. Unlike Thunderbird, and its Betterbird variant, Outlook Classic is not built
atop web browser code.
The only time web browsing comes into play that I can remember when
using Outlook Classic is to add an OAUTH2 server into an account defined
in Outlook Classic. To get an OAUTH2 token requires granting your
e-mail client access to your e-mail account. To check you have access,
the e-mail client loads the web browser to the webmail app page, and has
you login to prove it's you via your e-mail client that wants access.
If the login succeeds, the OAUTH2 server delivers the OAUTH2 tokens to
the e-mail client to store in its credentials cache.
Thunderbird and Betterbird contain Firefox code, so they can view HTML content without having to load a separate instance of a web browser.
However, when creating OAUTH2 account, all e-mail clients have to use a
web browser to get to the webmail's login page to validate you are the account owner by having you login there. (Thunder|Better)bird can use
their own integral web browser. Other e-mail clients, like Outlook
Classic, have to load a web browser.
In Edge, can you visit gmail.com? Can you login okay? If not, perhaps
you installed an extension into Edge that interferes with rendering the
web page, or block its resources, like an adblocker. If you are using a
VPN that is always on, turn it off to retest. Other than Windows
Defender, temporarily disable any 3rd-party anti-virus/malware software
you have running. Try disabling any add-ons you installed in
Betterbird. If you cannot login, could be Google wants to verify it is
you trying to gain access, so they send a login code to your recovery
methods you defined in your Gmail account (alternate e-mail, phone
number [that MUST be SMS capable to get texts since they don't do
robovoice calls anymore]. When in Gmail, or your Google account
settings, you can generate a slew of backup codes that you can enter to
prove it's you trying to get into a Gmail account. After generating the backup codes, and saving them somewhere, supposedly you can use one of
them (you get 10) to complete the login. I've never had to use the
backup codes, but have needed to use my phone as a recovery method.
Despite all recovery methods you defined in your Google account, none of
them will work, because the web page you're presented when generating an OAUTH2 token doesn't grant you recovery methods. Use a web browser to
visit gmail.com, login, and do whatever the aholes want to complete the
login to finally get you into your Gmail account. Then logout (not just close a tab in the web browser, but use the sign out in the menu), and attempt another login to check that you are not afflicted with yet
another security interruption.
By the way, I have Hotmail, Comcast (my ISP), and Gmail accounts define
in my Outlook [Classic] 2021 (part of Office 2021 Pro Plus standalone).
The only time it ever opens a web browser is: (1) When I elect to render
an e-mail in a web browser instead of inside of Outlook Classic; and,
(2) During the process to get OAUTH2 tokens. Both use whatever is my
default web browser. Used to be Firefox, but now Edge. All 3 e-mail accounts are in the same Outlook profile. I only have 1 profile.
Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
Jim the Geordie wrote:
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem, >>> but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my >>> desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have
finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
It used to be possible to connect to a Gmail account using Outlook, but
it required a separate profile. Thus rendering the use of Outlook
pointless. Clearly a conscious design decision by Google.
So make your choice: browser-based email, or client-based. You can't
have both.
It's not quite clear what Jim the Geordie is doing *exactly*, but I
don't agree with your (Graham) last statement, at least not for Windows:
On my Windows (11) laptop, I can use my Gmail accounts in Thunderbird (i.e. client-based email) *and* in Edge (i.e. non-Chrome browser-based
email) *and* in Chrome.
So if Jim has a problem, it's probably an Outlook problem.
Fun part: For me Gmail works in Outlook, while I actually do not want
to use Outlook. (Outlook says "Sync your Gmail account", but I click 'Cancel', because I don't want my "emails, calendar, events and contacts
... synced to the Microsoft Cloud". But despite my Cancel, Outlook keeps notifying me of new mail in my Gmail account. Go figure! :-))
GMail can be setup as POP3 in Outlook(M365)- app password is necessary
For me Gmail works in Outlook, while I actually do not want to use
Outlook. (Outlook says "Sync your Gmail account", but I click
'Cancel', because I don't want my "emails, calendar, events and
contacts ... synced to the Microsoft Cloud". But despite my Cancel,
Outlook keeps notifying me of new mail in my Gmail account. Go
figure! :-))
Outlook has only
one big OUTLOOK.PST, not like Thunderbird's Mail directory.
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
For me Gmail works in Outlook, while I actually do not want to use
Outlook. (Outlook says "Sync your Gmail account", but I click
'Cancel', because I don't want my "emails, calendar, events and
contacts ... synced to the Microsoft Cloud". But despite my Cancel,
Outlook keeps notifying me of new mail in my Gmail account. Go
figure! :-))
Isn't "Sync your Gmail account" a popup? If so, it is probably a
one-time choice for the current mail poll. On the next mail poll,
you'll get the prompt again.
I'm confused.
Why add a Gmail to Outlook if you don't want to use Outlook for Gmail?
Why install Outlook at all if you don't want to use it?
Disclaimer: Totally irrelevant/useless post. Proceed at your own risk.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
For me Gmail works in Outlook, while I actually do not want to use
Outlook. (Outlook says "Sync your Gmail account", but I click
'Cancel', because I don't want my "emails, calendar, events and
contacts ... synced to the Microsoft Cloud". But despite my Cancel,
Outlook keeps notifying me of new mail in my Gmail account. Go
figure! :-))
Isn't "Sync your Gmail account" a popup? If so, it is probably a
one-time choice for the current mail poll. On the next mail poll,
you'll get the prompt again.
Yes, the notifications are a popup (in the lower-right corner) of new messages which have arrived in one of my Gmail accounts. And its indeed polling at whatever interval.
I'm confused.
Why add a Gmail to Outlook if you don't want to use Outlook for Gmail?
Why install Outlook at all if you don't want to use it?
Don't be confused, that *my* job! :-) I don't remember why I tried to
use Outlook for one of my Gmail accounts. It probably was just a test,
trying to determine of it's of any use (to me), etc..
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Disclaimer: Totally irrelevant/useless post. Proceed at your own risk.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
For me Gmail works in Outlook, while I actually do not want to use
Outlook. (Outlook says "Sync your Gmail account", but I click
'Cancel', because I don't want my "emails, calendar, events and
contacts ... synced to the Microsoft Cloud". But despite my Cancel,
Outlook keeps notifying me of new mail in my Gmail account. Go
figure! :-))
Isn't "Sync your Gmail account" a popup? If so, it is probably a
one-time choice for the current mail poll. On the next mail poll,
you'll get the prompt again.
Yes, the notifications are a popup (in the lower-right corner) of new messages which have arrived in one of my Gmail accounts. And its indeed polling at whatever interval.
I'm confused.
Why add a Gmail to Outlook if you don't want to use Outlook for Gmail?
Why install Outlook at all if you don't want to use it?
Don't be confused, that *my* job! :-) I don't remember why I tried to use Outlook for one of my Gmail accounts. It probably was just a test, trying to determine of it's of any use (to me), etc..
[snip]
Open your Control Panel,
Open the component Mail (32-bit).
This will allow you to edit and/or remove your gmail account from
Outlook, without needing to open Outlook.
Jim the Geordie wrote:
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,
but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my
desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have
finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
It used to be possible to connect to a Gmail account using Outlook, but
it required a separate profile.
Thus rendering the use of Outlook
pointless. Clearly a conscious design decision by Google.
So make your choice: browser-based email, or client-based. You can't
have both.
I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my
mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.
I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the
latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,
but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY
use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my >desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.
I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have >finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.
In article <10k89ai$1f31$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>, toylet.toylet@gmail.com says...
Outlook has only
one big OUTLOOK.PST, not like Thunderbird's Mail directory.
I use Outlook classic, and it's configured to use multiple PST and OST
(IMAP) files.
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