• Scan and stitch legal-sized docs - recommendations?

    From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 15:13:03 2026
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago. Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.

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  • From Alan K.@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 16:32:44 2026
    On 1/15/26 4:13 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago. Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.
    How many are you doing?
    If it were me, and less than 10 pages, rather than wasting time trying to find an
    automation, I'd just pull the pages into photoshop or gimp and cut and shift the pages to
    align.

    That would get the picture properly into 8.5x14, but then you'd probably just scale the
    picture down to 11" tall. The width would adjust to 6.677" so you'd wind up with a
    smaller image but it would fit on 11" fine.

    --
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    Alan K.

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  • From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 18:08:16 2026
    On 01/15/2026 4:13 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago. Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.
    When I have that situation, I use Irfanview. You can join images
    either at the top of the images or on the side. Older version of
    Irfanview called this the panorama. current version calls it Merging images.

    I use it for cutting images from books and newspapers. With Irfanview I
    can then add source information to the images, and then save it as a PDF
    file which I find easier to maneuver around in than a JPG.




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  • From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 18:15:20 2026
    On 01/15/2026 6:08 PM, knuttle wrote:
    On 01/15/2026 4:13 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper.ÿ I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up.ÿ The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan).ÿ What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ **********
    ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ **********
    ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ **********ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ ********** <--.
    ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ÿÿÿ **********ÿÿÿÿÿ <--|
    ÿÿÿ **********ÿÿÿÿÿ <--'
    ÿÿÿ **********ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    ÿÿÿ **********
    ÿÿÿ **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom.ÿ Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom.ÿ Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic.ÿ With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago.
    Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.
    When I have that situation, I use Irfanview.ÿÿ You can join images
    either at the top of the images or on the side.ÿ Older version of
    Irfanview called this the panorama. current version calls it Merging
    images.

    I use it for cutting images from books and newspapers.ÿ With Irfanview I
    can then add source information to the images, and then save it as a PDF file which I find easier to maneuver around in than a JPG.



    After posting the above and reading the other post, if the original
    poster wishes to join the pages together, I have also cut the sections
    as and joined them to get the page size I want. I save them as JPGS

    Once I get every thing I need I create a PDF file using the Irfanview's
    Create Multipage PDF function.


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 00:33:55 2026
    On 2026/1/15 21:13:3, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I

    Not sure what you mean by "into 8.5 x 11 paper"; I'll assume - as
    everyone else has - that you mean you want one image containing the
    whole document, which you will then scale for whatever use you want. And
    that you only have an 11" scanner.

    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Do you mean it duplicates the overlap content? (Doesn't sound a very
    good stitcher if so!)

    Are you scanning two 11" long scans and then trying to merge them in it,
    or only an 11" and a (say) 5"? Whichever you are doing, have you tried
    the other - or won't the stitcher software work with one of those?

    One thing to try, depending on how valuable the original is, would be to
    stick two little squares of black tape at either side of the document if there's room, which might give the stitching software a better something
    to latch on to. Or red tape, if it's doing a colour scan. (If it's
    precious, maybe just two items held in place with paperclips, as long as
    you can make sure they don't move relative to the document when you move
    it to do the second scan.)

    []

    As others have said, if you have only one or two such to do, then give
    up looking (if you can't make the one you've got work), and just do two
    scans, and join them with IrfanView; I've used it recently to do the
    front and back of an LP sleeve. I presume many other image-manipulation softwares would do too - I just like IV.

    As for other automatic software, I can't recommend anything. The most impressive such I've come across in the last few years was the driver
    that came with a "mouse scanner" - which is an (only slightly) oversized
    mouse with a scanner built into it; you scan any document of arbitrary
    size (well it has a limit, but I think it's pretty big - A3 maybe?) by
    just scribbling all over it with the mouse; it stitches the scans
    together, rather amazingly. I have two of these (can't remember why) -
    IIRR the model numbers contain 100 and 150; I got them on ebay or
    similar, about 15 to 25 pounds I think. Fun to play with. (But the
    software is the driver - I don't think you could use it to stitch images
    from elsewhere.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDJohsjjhNo&t=183 shows how it works -
    OK, he went awry with a perfectly featureless part of his scan, but
    assuming your document has any dirt or creases it should be fine.

    --
    J. P. Gilliver

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 21:33:40 2026
    "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago.
    Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.

    How many are you doing?

    Around 240 pages, all legal size. Once scanned and stitched together
    properly, I'd keep them as a PDF file.

    I used to have a legal sized SCSI scanner a couple decades ago. Made
    the choice back them to discard it. Took up a humungous amount of space
    on my desk, slow, low res. I took a quick look, but doesn't seem any legal-sized scanners are sold now. If software could properly stitch
    multiple scans together, I would need to even bother thinking about a legal-sized scanner.

    Sorry, what I meant to ask is how to stitch together 14x8.5 legal size
    paper to save in PDF files. I don't need to print them.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 21:35:45 2026
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 01/15/2026 4:13 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago.
    Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.

    When I have that situation, I use Irfanview. You can join images
    either at the top of the images or on the side. Older version of
    Irfanview called this the panorama. current version calls it Merging images.

    I use it for cutting images from books and newspapers. With Irfanview I
    can then add source information to the images, and then save it as a PDF file which I find easier to maneuver around in than a JPG.

    For 250+ pages in a document? Very tedious. I don't need to print the stitched documents, just store them in a PDF. But scanning the
    oversized pages means having to stitch them together. For a photo, or
    two, yeah, I've see the panorama programs, but that would be a slow
    solution.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 21:40:55 2026
    "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    On 2026/1/15 21:13:3, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I

    Not sure what you mean by "into 8.5 x 11 paper"; I'll assume - as
    everyone else has - that you mean you want one image containing the
    whole document, which you will then scale for whatever use you want. And
    that you only have an 11" scanner.

    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Do you mean it duplicates the overlap content? (Doesn't sound a very
    good stitcher if so!)

    Are you scanning two 11" long scans and then trying to merge them in it,
    or only an 11" and a (say) 5"? Whichever you are doing, have you tried
    the other - or won't the stitcher software work with one of those?

    One thing to try, depending on how valuable the original is, would be to stick two little squares of black tape at either side of the document if there's room, which might give the stitching software a better something
    to latch on to. Or red tape, if it's doing a colour scan. (If it's
    precious, maybe just two items held in place with paperclips, as long as
    you can make sure they don't move relative to the document when you move
    it to do the second scan.)

    []

    As others have said, if you have only one or two such to do, then give
    up looking (if you can't make the one you've got work), and just do two scans, and join them with IrfanView; I've used it recently to do the
    front and back of an LP sleeve. I presume many other image-manipulation softwares would do too - I just like IV.

    As for other automatic software, I can't recommend anything. The most impressive such I've come across in the last few years was the driver
    that came with a "mouse scanner" - which is an (only slightly) oversized mouse with a scanner built into it; you scan any document of arbitrary
    size (well it has a limit, but I think it's pretty big - A3 maybe?) by
    just scribbling all over it with the mouse; it stitches the scans
    together, rather amazingly. I have two of these (can't remember why) -
    IIRR the model numbers contain 100 and 150; I got them on ebay or
    similar, about 15 to 25 pounds I think. Fun to play with. (But the
    software is the driver - I don't think you could use it to stitch images
    from elsewhere.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDJohsjjhNo&t=183 shows how it works -
    OK, he went awry with a perfectly featureless part of his scan, but
    assuming your document has any dirt or creases it should be fine.

    What I'd like to do is lay the 14" long paper against one edge (top) on
    the scanner plate, scan it once, slide the paper to butt against the
    other edge (bottom), and have the stitcher eliminate the duplicate text
    in each scan, so I get a PDF that looks like the original legal page.

    The legal-sized document has around 250 pages. The panorama photo
    solutions would be very slow.

    I have read where scanner/printers with an automatic document feeder can
    figure out how to stitch 2 scans of each long sheet. My guess is that
    the feed moves the paper to align with the first 11" of the sheet fed
    in, scans that, and moves the paper to align the last 3" of the sheet at
    the end of the plate, scan that, and the stitching doesn't have to
    account for any overlap. Don't need another printer right now.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 00:58:55 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago. Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.

    Long bed scanners that can handle a legal-sized sheet are expensive, and
    take up a lot of space. Stitching software is either limp, or geared to
    the user moving about multiple scans to sync the images to look like
    panoramic pic. Then I thought: what about those scanners that don't
    have a flat bed, but the document runs under a bar reader.

    https://www.brother-usa.com/products/ds640 https://epson.com/For-Home/Scanners/Document-Scanners/WorkForce-ES-50-Portable-Document-Scanner/p/B11B252201

    Can do a continuous scan up to 72 inches. Instead of a flatbed scanner
    that runs a scan head across the page, the paper runs across the head.
    I could stow one of those in a drawer since it would be infrequent use.

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  • From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 07:47:32 2026
    On 01/15/2026 10:33 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> wrote:


    Sorry, what I meant to ask is how to stitch together 14x8.5 legal size
    paper to save in PDF files. I don't need to print them.
    snip

    Have you looked at the parameters of your printer?

    I have had several HP printers/scanners that could scan legal size paper.

    My last two could scan legal documents from its auto feed, or on the
    flat bed scanner.

    Of course I had to change the printer parameter to the legal size paper,
    but that was just clicking legal size in the printer set up.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 14:05:24 2026
    On 2026-01-15 22:13, VanguardLH wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    I have done it with gimp. Load each page on a different layer, play with transparency. It helps if you can write with ink or pencil a dot on the virtual edge that shows on both scans. I had trouble that the scan of of
    one edge was not equal (on the overlap region) to the scan of the other
    edge. Ie, there was distortion. When I had both pages aligned (both
    rotation and shift), I simply eliminated the transparency, and saved the resulting photo.

    However, for 250 pages, that's a tall order.

    If no software solution is found, you need different hardware. A camera,
    or a scanner that runs the document under a bar reader, as you say in
    your last post.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 15:41:05 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    [Having read the other responses, including yours:]

    As you have an (oldish) (Android) smartphone, you might want to try
    some of the scan apps which were recently discussed in
    comp.mobile.android.

    As I mentioned there [1], the scan function of the Google Drive app is
    quite good and handy, because you only have to point at the document and
    it 'snaps' to it and 'scans' it, to PDF or JPEG. As this app just
    'grabs' the document and leaves everything outside the document off,
    size is irrelevant, so 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents should be fine.

    I/the_thread also mentions other scanning apps, such as 'PhotoScan by
    Google Photos'.

    [...]

    [1] Message-ID: <10jiusq.4fg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 10:45:13 2026
    knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Sorry, what I meant to ask is how to stitch together 14x8.5 legal size
    paper to save in PDF files. I don't need to print them.

    Have you looked at the parameters of your printer?

    I have had several HP printers/scanners that could scan legal size paper.

    My last two could scan legal documents from its auto feed, or on the
    flat bed scanner.

    Of course I had to change the printer parameter to the legal size paper,
    but that was just clicking legal size in the printer set up.

    I also read where scanners with auto-feed could span legal-sized scans.
    They feed just enough for the first scan, and feed a bit more for the
    second scan, and stitch the scans together. Mine doesn't have
    auto-feed. Plus, not all auto-feeders can incrementally scan a larger document.

    Then there's the trick where you fold the paper in half, scan, turn
    over, and scan again to stitch together. That what I did for now. I
    would the paper in half, but ensure the fold was not over a line of text
    (i.e., the fold was in white space), scan, flip over, scan again, and
    stitch together. When scanning, I picked "B4 (B5 x 2)" for output size.
    Per the app's instructions, the result had the 2nd scan shifted to the
    left, to the stitched-together page had the top (1st scan) in the middle
    with the bottom (2nd scan) shifted to the left. I tried to position the
    paper partway from the alignment point in the corner of the platen
    trying to get top and bottom to align, but other problems arose, so I
    just left the stitching with top in middle, and bottom shifted to the
    left. Not an ideal setup, and very time consuming.

    I didn't like the trick of using a camera, like in a smartphone, to take
    pics of the legal-sized paper to save in a PDF file. Problems with
    angle, lighting, focal length, and so on. You could easily tell those
    were photos of the papers. Looked amatuerish. But then my method of
    stitching wasn't that great, either.

    Typical scanners move the scan head across the platen to read the
    document. That's where the physical size of the platen comes into play regarding documents that are larger. So, I thought, instead of having
    the scan head move across the paper, why not have the paper move across
    the scan head. I checked, and there are continuous feed scanners. I
    mentioned a couple I found in a quick search in a reply to myself (MID <d9sruw9yidtu$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>).

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 10:50:03 2026
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    As I mentioned there [1], the scan function of the Google Drive app is
    quite good and handy, because you only have to point at the document
    and it 'snaps' to it and 'scans' it, to PDF or JPEG. As this app just
    'grabs' the document and leaves everything outside the document off,
    size is irrelevant, so 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents should be
    fine.

    Hmm, that could work. I'll experiment. Found some instructions at:

    https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid

    Thanks for the info.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 12:54:53 2026
    VanguardLH wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.

    I did find Hugin (https://hugin.sourceforge.io/), but that seems
    oriented to stitching together multiple pics into a panoramic pic. With
    text only, the alignment would be on the overlapping text between the 2
    scans of the top and bottom of the legal-sized page.

    Some users noted Arcsoft's Scan-n-Stitch, but it's not free (but maybe
    for the Deluxe edition), and looks like Arcsoft dropped it years ago.
    Apparently this is bundled with Epson printers, but likely a Lite
    version that is free.

    Long bed scanners that can handle a legal-sized sheet are expensive, and
    take up a lot of space. Stitching software is either limp, or geared to
    the user moving about multiple scans to sync the images to look like panoramic pic. Then I thought: what about those scanners that don't
    have a flat bed, but the document runs under a bar reader.

    https://www.brother-usa.com/products/ds640 https://epson.com/For-Home/Scanners/Document-Scanners/WorkForce-ES-50-Portable-Document-Scanner/p/B11B252201

    Can do a continuous scan up to 72 inches. Instead of a flatbed scanner
    that runs a scan head across the page, the paper runs across the head.
    I could stow one of those in a drawer since it would be infrequent use.

    Was going to suggest a scanner with a continuous drive.
    A co-worker has a portable Epson. It is very small and he takes it with
    him on business trips. It can scan sections of well logs up to 6 feet
    at a time. Unfortunately I don't know the model number and he is at a
    remote drilling site at the moment.
    Just checked with FedEx. They have legal scanners to PDF but want
    55 cent per page.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 13:09:06 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I >>> have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    As I mentioned there [1], the scan function of the Google Drive app is
    quite good and handy, because you only have to point at the document
    and it 'snaps' to it and 'scans' it, to PDF or JPEG. As this app just
    'grabs' the document and leaves everything outside the document off,
    size is irrelevant, so 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents should be
    fine.

    Hmm, that could work. I'll experiment. Found some instructions at:

    https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid

    Thanks for the info.

    I tried Google Drive's camera. It locked in the page, eliminated
    everything outside the page, but the text on the captured pic was far
    too faint to read. I tried different lighting, but the captured page
    was illegible. Thanks for the info, though.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 13:30:32 2026
    Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    Was going to suggest a scanner with a continuous drive. A co-worker
    has a portable Epson. It is very small and he takes it with him on
    business trips. It can scan sections of well logs up to 6 feet at a
    time. Unfortunately I don't know the model number and he is at a
    remote drilling site at the moment.

    Just checked with FedEx. They have legal scanners to PDF but want 55
    cent per page.

    250 pages x 55 cents/page = $137.50. Uffdah, no thanks. On their copy machines, my library wants 20 cents/page which would cost $50. Kinkos
    became FedEx Office, and they list at 71 cents/page, or $177.50 for 250
    pages. Staples lists at 26 cents/page which would be $65 for 250 pages. Instead of paying them, I could put the money to a continuous scanner.

    Fo now, I'll stick with the stitching procedure my printer affords: set
    to B4 (B5x2) (B5 size times 2 into B4 size), fold in half, scan top,
    flip over, scan bottom, stitch, and, for now, suffer the misalignment of
    the bottom half.

    I've got a couple continous scanners in my wishlist at Walmart: a Canon,
    and an Epson. They claim continuous scanning to 72" (6 feet, same as
    your friend). Those can stow in a drawer since they would rarely get
    used. They are still limited to letter width (8.5"), but the only long
    docs I've been hit with are legal size (14x8.5). There are scanning
    wands, but you have to be consistent when dragging over the document.

    I don't scan very often, so whenever I replace my current printer I'll
    skip the all-in-one type, and go with a separate scanner and printer.
    I'll already have the continuous scanner, so just need a printer. I
    don't print much, either, but, in this case, I was scanning to PDF.

    I tried Frank's suggestion of using the camera in the Google Drive app.
    It would lock onto the edges of the page, and would take a photo of just
    the page (everything outside the snap edges was omitted), but the text
    on the page was so overly faint that the captured page was unreadable.
    Adding more light (external or flash) just made the text fade away more.

    The legal docs are gray text on white paper, not really deep black on
    white, so they already don't have a lot of contrast. My old eyes
    struggle to focus and deciper the text. The page didn't fade over time,
    but was how they were printed. My scanner caught the page okay, so I
    have a continuous scanner on my wishlist.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 22:33:45 2026
    On 2026/1/16 6:58:55, VanguardLH wrote:
    []

    Long bed scanners that can handle a legal-sized sheet are expensive, and
    take up a lot of space. Stitching software is either limp, or geared to
    the user moving about multiple scans to sync the images to look like panoramic pic. Then I thought: what about those scanners that don't
    have a flat bed, but the document runs under a bar reader.

    https://www.brother-usa.com/products/ds640 https://epson.com/For-Home/Scanners/Document-Scanners/WorkForce-ES-50-Portable-Document-Scanner/p/B11B252201

    Can do a continuous scan up to 72 inches. Instead of a flatbed scanner
    that runs a scan head across the page, the paper runs across the head.
    I could stow one of those in a drawer since it would be infrequent use.

    There are roughly two ways those work: either they contain motorised
    rollers and you feed the document through them, or they're a "wand" -
    you sweep them across the document (they either pick up features in the document for reference, or they contain rollers that turn as you sweep).
    They can be battery-powered and save to a memory card, or USB-powered. I
    had one - feed-through i. e. motorised, USB powered, thinner than the
    above two - came with a long thin bag to keep it in, like a sock. I
    found it worked well, but you had to guide the document carefully as it
    took it, otherwise you got an OK but slightly curved image. Was only 20
    to 30 pounds as I remember - I think I got it from a clearance table at
    a Staples. I haven't tried it on Windows 10.

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes.

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  • From Herbert Kleebauer@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 01:08:35 2026
    On 1/16/2026 5:45 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

    I didn't like the trick of using a camera, like in a smartphone, to take
    pics of the legal-sized paper to save in a PDF file. Problems with
    angle, lighting, focal length, and so on. You could easily tell those
    were photos of the papers. Looked amatuerish. But then my method of stitching wasn't that great, either.

    If you make a tool like this yourself:

    https://www.amazon.de/-/en/JOURIST/dp/3898947645/

    and use a remote control to take the pictures, I don't
    think it will look "amateurish" and it is much faster than
    a scanner.



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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jan 16 23:46:22 2026
    On Fri, 1/16/2026 7:08 PM, Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
    On 1/16/2026 5:45 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

    I didn't like the trick of using a camera, like in a smartphone, to take
    pics of the legal-sized paper to save in a PDF file.ÿ Problems with
    angle, lighting, focal length, and so on.ÿ You could easily tell those
    were photos of the papers.ÿ Looked amatuerish.ÿ But then my method of
    stitching wasn't that great, either.

    If you make a tool like this yourself:

    https://www.amazon.de/-/en/JOURIST/dp/3898947645/

    and use a remote control to take the pictures, I don't
    think it will look "amateurish" and it is much faster than
    a scanner.



    My copy of Microsoft Image Composite Editor 2.0.3 has these details.
    This is the one I have on disk.

    Name: ICE-2.0.3-for-64-bit-Windows.msi
    Size: 7963136 bytes (7776 KiB)
    SHA256: 3A39A8FFF473500186F56E6F79985BAE87A5B6D5F10ED3F8A3F40899D7FDDB43

    There is a link I could find on dpreview for it. Download is immediate.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180724063025/https://download.microsoft.com/download/7/3/9/73918E0B-C146-40FA-B18C-EADF03FEC4BA/ICE-2.0.3-for-64-bit-Windows.msi

    Select "Simple Panorama" so there is no Mercator Projection or other similar stuff.

    Shift-click to select a couple files. Results are pretty fast on a modern computer.
    The program will figure out where the overlap is, and align them.

    If, on the other hand, you select 70+ scans and attempt to stitch them, it takes 80GB of RAM, a 2TB scratch hard drive (just for the program to use),
    and it takes a week to run. Progress rate is 1.0MB/sec to 1.5MB/sec write rate to the 2TB scratch drive. Large projects, you have to be extremely patient, because a lot of arithmetic is being done to bend and twist stuff (and auto-fill missing
    sheets from the stitched surface).

    But for a couple overlapped scans, it should work pretty good.

    While there is one piece of code that claims to be able to call into StitchEngine.DLL , and would allow conversion from the command line,
    that code was written in C# and that's outside my pay scale.

    The graphics are a bit "glitchy" on Win11, and I have my doubts this
    can be fixed by using the Compatibility tab. The program might have
    been intended to run on Win8, so it really should work on the newer stuff.

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 20:18:48 2026
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    [...]

    I tried Frank's suggestion of using the camera in the Google Drive app.
    It would lock onto the edges of the page, and would take a photo of just
    the page (everything outside the snap edges was omitted), but the text
    on the page was so overly faint that the captured page was unreadable.
    Adding more light (external or flash) just made the text fade away more.

    The legal docs are gray text on white paper, not really deep black on
    white, so they already don't have a lot of contrast. My old eyes
    struggle to focus and deciper the text. The page didn't fade over time,
    but was how they were printed. My scanner caught the page okay, so I
    have a continuous scanner on my wishlist.

    Thanks for the feedback. Yes, that - gray text on white paper - is a
    special situation, which indeed probably doesn't lend itself well to a
    camera instead of a real scanner.

    That's what you get for You Guys (TM) banning the use of our Calibri
    font! :-)

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  • From Jim H@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 21:00:46 2026
    On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 12:54:53 -0600, in
    <10ke1i5$1u2i5$1@dont-email.me>, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    https://www.brother-usa.com/products/ds640
    https://epson.com/For-Home/Scanners/Document-Scanners/WorkForce-ES-50-Portable-Document-Scanner/p/B11B252201

    Can do a continuous scan up to 72 inches. Instead of a flatbed scanner
    that runs a scan head across the page, the paper runs across the head.
    I could stow one of those in a drawer since it would be infrequent use.

    Was going to suggest a scanner with a continuous drive.
    A co-worker has a portable Epson. It is very small and he takes it with
    him on business trips. It can scan sections of well logs up to 6 feet
    at a time. Unfortunately I don't know the model number and he is at a >remote drilling site at the moment.


    You might be thinking of an Epson ES-580W.

    --
    Jim H

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  • From Jim H@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 21:23:54 2026
    On 17 Jan 2026 20:18:48 GMT, in
    <10kgubg.igs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    [...]

    I tried Frank's suggestion of using the camera in the Google Drive app.
    It would lock onto the edges of the page, and would take a photo of just
    the page (everything outside the snap edges was omitted), but the text
    on the page was so overly faint that the captured page was unreadable.
    Adding more light (external or flash) just made the text fade away more. >>
    The legal docs are gray text on white paper, not really deep black on
    white, so they already don't have a lot of contrast. My old eyes
    struggle to focus and deciper the text. The page didn't fade over time,
    but was how they were printed. My scanner caught the page okay, so I
    have a continuous scanner on my wishlist.

    Thanks for the feedback. Yes, that - gray text on white paper - is a
    special situation, which indeed probably doesn't lend itself well to a
    camera instead of a real scanner.

    That's what you get for You Guys (TM) banning the use of our Calibri
    font! :-)


    Clibri is an abomination. Lower case Calibri 14 is the same size
    vertically as Arial 12. And it's Calibri Light that's responsible for
    most of that grey text. That said, Times New Roman is generally ADA non-compliant.

    And to maybe halfway address the real topic of discussion, could the
    left-right offset between pages have something to do with possible
    gutter margin settings?

    --
    Jim H

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jan 17 20:00:11 2026
    Jim H wrote:
    On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 12:54:53 -0600, in
    <10ke1i5$1u2i5$1@dont-email.me>, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    https://www.brother-usa.com/products/ds640
    https://epson.com/For-Home/Scanners/Document-Scanners/WorkForce-ES-50-Portable-Document-Scanner/p/B11B252201

    Can do a continuous scan up to 72 inches. Instead of a flatbed scanner
    that runs a scan head across the page, the paper runs across the head.
    I could stow one of those in a drawer since it would be infrequent use.

    Was going to suggest a scanner with a continuous drive.
    A co-worker has a portable Epson. It is very small and he takes it with
    him on business trips. It can scan sections of well logs up to 6 feet
    at a time. Unfortunately I don't know the model number and he is at a
    remote drilling site at the moment.

    You might be thinking of an Epson ES-580W.

    It's probably an Epson ES-50. It does not have wireless so predates the ES-60.

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  • From Java Jive@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 18 11:34:31 2026
    On 2026-01-15 21:13, VanguardLH wrote:

    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.
    I like to think that I'm becoming quite an expert on this now, having
    produced around 14,000 scans during a family history project, many of
    which were scanned in sections and then stitched together as follows ...

    * Foolscap pages, which, as in your problem, on an A4 scanner have to
    be scanned in 2 sections;
    * Old legal documents having to be scanned in a 3x3 or 3x4 matrix;
    * Family trees having to be scanned in matrices as large as 4x18;
    * Large photos kept in rolls, some as large as 5x2
    (having trouble with one of these right now);
    * Individual photos stitched to make up a panorama;
    * Etc.

    I address your specific problem above first, but then give more general
    advice ...

    Many such legal documents, in fact most documents generally, do not have
    equal left & right margins between the print and the edge of the page.
    Even if they were designed to have equal margins, by the time they have
    been printed and possibly photocopied, those equal margins are no more.
    Thus, if you place the document on the scanner to do the top, and then
    turn it 180 degrees to do the bottom, the left & right margins on the resulting scanned sections will be different, and may still be so even
    after you've spun the digital second scan back through 180 degrees to
    get the text in it the correct way up again.

    As you have suggested somewhere in the thread, as with the foolscap
    examples above, digital stitching software is probably overkill for this particular problem (however, for me it really has come into its own when
    doing the more complex examples also listed above).

    However, you have simple solutions to your particular problem, and none
    are particularly difficult to do, but they are a little tedious, and
    likely there's no getting around that:

    1 Most software that comes with a scanner allows you to select the area
    to be scanned, so simply choose an area with a comfortable margin less
    than the smallest actual physical margin in the document(s), and simply
    move the selection rectangle around with each scan so that the results
    have consistent margins. This is what I do for preference.

    2 Or use graphics software to crop the margins on the scans to make
    them all the same, a few seconds job.

    Then stitch the results by whatever method works. For simple cases as
    in the foolscap above, I do it manually in graphics software:

    A Increase the canvas size of the top scan to be large enough to allow appending the bottom - note that this is different from increasing the
    image size, which latter doesn't help at all.

    B Select an area of the bottom scan starting between the lines of text approximately half way down the area of overlap, downward to select the
    rest of the bottom scan.

    C Copy this selection into the clipboard.

    D Paste it as an overlay or layers into/over the top section lining up
    the text as exactly as you can. Once satisfied with the result, merge
    down into a single layer image.

    E Crop as desired.

    F Save the result.

    Given the two scans as a starting point, doing it manually this way I
    can stitch a foolscap or legal document page in about a minute, minute
    and a half, two at most.

    As regards stitching scanned sections more generally, particularly more complex jobs, in principle at least, you can use most image editing
    software to do it by hand, but it can be desperately time-consuming and tedious to do it this way. A successful stitch with automatic software
    can save hours.

    While I have managed to get Hugin (Linux) to work, I've had more
    consistent results with Image Composition Editor (ICE) (Windows), for
    which there is no longer an original download link on the Microsoft
    site, but the program is still available via the web-archive:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20191208054508/https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computational-photography-applications/image-composite-editor/

    Here are some tips, learned by often exasperated and wearisome
    experience, for scanning sections to be stitched together and to get the
    best out of stitching software ...

    1) Set the scanner just to scan raw without attempting to optimise
    the contrast or colour or otherwise digitally clean up the results.
    You'll have to do the latter manually in external software once the
    final correctly stitched image has been created. Failure to do this may
    mean that with old faded documents the sections may end up with
    different shades of grey as the background, and in the finished result
    the joins will be obvious.

    2) Make sure that there is sufficient overlap between the scanned
    sections, probably about 2-2.5 cms (1 inch) all round. Anything smaller
    tends to fail with misaligned results.

    3) Try and keep the edges of the scanned sections as parallel as you
    can. While a small amount of error will be accommodated by good
    stitching software, larger errors will tend to cause significant problems.

    4) Note that different programs mean different things by 'grayscale/greyscale', so if, for example, you you scan something as 'greyscale' using your scanner's software, but then decide to edit one section, perhaps to remove a blemish, before doing the stitch, you may
    find that the edited section has been saved in a different format to the others, and the stitching software complains, as described here:

    https://groups.google.com/g/uk.comp.os.linux/c/8laKirJfq18

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk


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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 18 12:55:40 2026
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-01-15 21:13, VanguardLH wrote:

    Looking to scan 8.5 x 14 (legal) paper documents into 8.5 x 11 paper. I
    have Canon's Scan & Stitch, but the halves of each end of the 8.5 x 14
    scan don't match up. The top half (1st scan) is offset from the bottom
    half (2nd scan). What I get after scan and stitch looks like:

    **********
    **********
    ********** (1st scan, top of legal doc)
    ********** <--.
    ********** <--|__ overlap (same content)
    ********** <--|
    ********** <--'
    ********** (2nd scan, bottom of legal doc)
    **********
    **********

    Canon's tool does not align top with bottom. Plus it overlaps
    (duplicates) some content from top into bottom. Looking for a free tool
    that will scan, and stitch the top and bottom of a legal-sized document
    with the top and bottom aligned with each other.
    I like to think that I'm becoming quite an expert on this now, having produced around 14,000 scans during a family history project, many of
    which were scanned in sections and then stitched together as follows ...

    * Foolscap pages, which, as in your problem, on an A4 scanner have to
    be scanned in 2 sections;
    * Old legal documents having to be scanned in a 3x3 or 3x4 matrix;
    * Family trees having to be scanned in matrices as large as 4x18;
    * Large photos kept in rolls, some as large as 5x2
    (having trouble with one of these right now);
    * Individual photos stitched to make up a panorama;
    * Etc.

    I address your specific problem above first, but then give more general advice ...

    Many such legal documents, in fact most documents generally, do not have equal left & right margins between the print and the edge of the page.
    Even if they were designed to have equal margins, by the time they have
    been printed and possibly photocopied, those equal margins are no more. Thus, if you place the document on the scanner to do the top, and then
    turn it 180 degrees to do the bottom, the left & right margins on the resulting scanned sections will be different, and may still be so even
    after you've spun the digital second scan back through 180 degrees to
    get the text in it the correct way up again.

    As you have suggested somewhere in the thread, as with the foolscap
    examples above, digital stitching software is probably overkill for this particular problem (however, for me it really has come into its own when doing the more complex examples also listed above).

    However, you have simple solutions to your particular problem, and none
    are particularly difficult to do, but they are a little tedious, and
    likely there's no getting around that:

    1 Most software that comes with a scanner allows you to select the area
    to be scanned, so simply choose an area with a comfortable margin less
    than the smallest actual physical margin in the document(s), and simply
    move the selection rectangle around with each scan so that the results
    have consistent margins. This is what I do for preference.

    2 Or use graphics software to crop the margins on the scans to make
    them all the same, a few seconds job.

    Then stitch the results by whatever method works. For simple cases as
    in the foolscap above, I do it manually in graphics software:

    A Increase the canvas size of the top scan to be large enough to allow appending the bottom - note that this is different from increasing the image size, which latter doesn't help at all.

    B Select an area of the bottom scan starting between the lines of text approximately half way down the area of overlap, downward to select the
    rest of the bottom scan.

    C Copy this selection into the clipboard.

    D Paste it as an overlay or layers into/over the top section lining up
    the text as exactly as you can. Once satisfied with the result, merge
    down into a single layer image.

    E Crop as desired.

    F Save the result.

    Given the two scans as a starting point, doing it manually this way I
    can stitch a foolscap or legal document page in about a minute, minute
    and a half, two at most.

    As regards stitching scanned sections more generally, particularly more complex jobs, in principle at least, you can use most image editing
    software to do it by hand, but it can be desperately time-consuming and tedious to do it this way. A successful stitch with automatic software
    can save hours.

    While I have managed to get Hugin (Linux) to work, I've had more
    consistent results with Image Composition Editor (ICE) (Windows), for
    which there is no longer an original download link on the Microsoft
    site, but the program is still available via the web-archive:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20191208054508/https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computational-photography-applications/image-composite-editor/

    Here are some tips, learned by often exasperated and wearisome
    experience, for scanning sections to be stitched together and to get the best out of stitching software ...

    1) Set the scanner just to scan raw without attempting to optimise
    the contrast or colour or otherwise digitally clean up the results.
    You'll have to do the latter manually in external software once the
    final correctly stitched image has been created. Failure to do this may mean that with old faded documents the sections may end up with
    different shades of grey as the background, and in the finished result
    the joins will be obvious.

    2) Make sure that there is sufficient overlap between the scanned sections, probably about 2-2.5 cms (1 inch) all round. Anything smaller tends to fail with misaligned results.

    3) Try and keep the edges of the scanned sections as parallel as you
    can. While a small amount of error will be accommodated by good
    stitching software, larger errors will tend to cause significant problems.

    4) Note that different programs mean different things by 'grayscale/greyscale', so if, for example, you you scan something as 'greyscale' using your scanner's software, but then decide to edit one section, perhaps to remove a blemish, before doing the stitch, you may
    find that the edited section has been saved in a different format to the others, and the stitching software complains, as described here:

    https://groups.google.com/g/uk.comp.os.linux/c/8laKirJfq18

    Probably the simplest solution is to use a continuous scanner. Instead
    of moving the scan head a paper on the platen, the paper moves across a
    fixed scan head. I found a Canon and Epson that will do that for about
    $120 to $160. They can scan 8.5" wide, and up to 6 feet long. No
    stitching needed. Will stow in a drawer. Not a free solution, but one
    that doesn't require any stitching or artifacts therefrom. There are
    also scanning wands, but you have to very good at a consistent and even
    swipe across the sheet. When I get a continuous scanner, I'll use that
    to read the legal documents to replace my stitched copies.

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