I asked Google "Will the upgrade to Windows 11 that stops some printers working, also stop them working under Windows 10 if subscribed to the updates?", and its AI replied "Yes, it is possible for the same printer
issues impacting Windows 11 to affect Windows 10 if you are subscribed
to updates, although the mechanism and timing may differ. The changes,
starting in January 2026, primarily phase out legacy V3 and V4 printer
drivers via Windows Update, which affects older printer models
regardless of whether they are running on Windows 10 or 11."

Which I interpret it as saying it doesn't know really.

Anyone know any more?

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver? How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through hoops to
enroll for?

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Of course some of it [television] is bad. But some of everything is bad
- books, music, family ... - Melvyn Bragg, RT 2017/7/1-7


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On 26/02/14 06:36 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

I asked Google "Will the upgrade to Windows 11 that stops some printers working, also stop them working under Windows 10 if subscribed to the updates?", and its AI replied "Yes, it is possible for the same printer issues impacting Windows 11 to affect Windows 10 if you are subscribed
to updates, although the mechanism and timing may differ. The changes, starting in January 2026, primarily phase out legacy V3 and V4 printer drivers via Windows Update, which affects older printer models
regardless of whether they are running on Windows 10 or 11."

Which I interpret it as saying it doesn't know really.

Anyone know any more?

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver? How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through hoops to enroll for?

This is exactly the kind of thing that M$ did with my beloved Canon
flatbed scanner.

They've moved from making computers obsolete to now making peripherals nonfunctional even though they previously worked just fine with W10 and 11.

Luckily, I was able to find a kludge to make my scanner work again.

They also made it so that my Logitech 5.1 speaker system would only work
in 2.1. I found a way to kind of fix that, but it's not totally effective.

I've used Linux with these peripherals before and there were no such
problems.

--
John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter crossposts,
various trolls & dizum.com. This makes ACF easier to read. Take back
tech corporations from India & industry back from China.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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In article <10mrbfm$37dkf$4@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk (J. P. Gilliver) wrote:

*From:* "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
*Date:* Sun, 15 Feb 2026 02:36:38 +0000

I asked Google "Will the upgrade to Windows 11 that stops some
printers
working, also stop them working under Windows 10 if subscribed to
the
updates?", and its AI replied "Yes, it is possible for the same
printer
issues impacting Windows 11 to affect Windows 10 if you are
subscribed
to updates, although the mechanism and timing may differ. The
changes,
starting in January 2026, primarily phase out legacy V3 and V4
printer
drivers via Windows Update, which affects older printer models
regardless of whether they are running on Windows 10 or 11."

Which I interpret it as saying it doesn't know really.

Anyone know any more?

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver?
How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through
hoops to
enroll for?

Follow this YT tutorial to stop MS updating third-party drivers through Windows Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKNuOXNCKM

--
Regards
John

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On Sat, 2/14/2026 9:36 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

I asked Google "Will the upgrade to Windows 11 that stops some printers working, also stop them working under Windows 10 if subscribed to the updates?", and its AI replied "Yes, it is possible for the same printer issues impacting Windows 11 to affect Windows 10 if you are subscribed
to updates, although the mechanism and timing may differ. The changes, starting in January 2026, primarily phase out legacy V3 and V4 printer drivers via Windows Update, which affects older printer models
regardless of whether they are running on Windows 10 or 11."

Which I interpret it as saying it doesn't know really.

Anyone know any more?

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver? How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through hoops to enroll for?

It appears to be a V3 driver.

For a 13 year old printer (I can see a review from 2012).

*******

https://support.hp.com/ca-en/drivers/samsung-clp-775-color-laser-printer-series/model/16462342?sku=SS079K

Basic Drivers (1)

Samsung Universal Print Driver for Windows

File name: Driver-Universal Print Driver

V3.00.16.0101:01

Windows 11 Jul 29, 2024

SamsungUniversalPrintDriver3_V3.00.16.0101.01.exe (38.5 MB)

Description:

This is the most current driver of the HP Universal Print Driver (UPD) for Windows for
Samsung printers.

HP's [owners of Samsung printer division] Terms of Use
*******

Paul

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On 2026/2/15 12:14:0, John K.Eason wrote:

In article <10mrbfm$37dkf$4@dont-email.me>, G6JPG@255soft.uk (J. P. Gilliver) wrote:

*From:* "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
*Date:* Sun, 15 Feb 2026 02:36:38 +0000

I asked Google "Will the upgrade to Windows 11 that stops some
printers
working, also stop them working under Windows 10 if subscribed to
the
updates?", and its AI replied "Yes, it is possible for the same
printer
issues impacting Windows 11 to affect Windows 10 if you are
subscribed
to updates, although the mechanism and timing may differ. The
changes,
starting in January 2026, primarily phase out legacy V3 and V4
printer
drivers via Windows Update, which affects older printer models
regardless of whether they are running on Windows 10 or 11."

Which I interpret it as saying it doesn't know really.

Anyone know any more?

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver?
How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through
hoops to
enroll for?

Follow this YT tutorial to stop MS updating third-party drivers through Windows
Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKNuOXNCKM

Thanks for that.

The contents of the above (he leads you step-by-step, good for those
unfamiliar with RegEdit, but for those that are):

How to stop windows updates from updating drivers.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows
Key: = WindowsUpdate
DWORD (32) - ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate
Value = 1
--------------------------------------------------------------- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows
Key: = DriverSearching
DWORD (32) - DriverUpdateWizardWuSearchEnabled
Value = 0
-----------------------------------------------------------------

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I was never drawn to sport, to which I attribute my long life.
- Barry Humphries, RT 2016/1/9-15

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On 2026/2/15 12:44:52, Paul wrote:

[]

Is my printer (Samsung CLP775ND) likely to be a V3 or V4 driver? How do
I find out? Should I turn off the W10 upgrades I jumped through hoops to
enroll for?

It appears to be a V3 driver.

For a 13 year old printer (I can see a review from 2012).

Yes, but it's built like a tank, and I think will outlast me! It also
does double-sided, and (although of course that's a function of the
driver) booklets.

*******

https://support.hp.com/ca-en/drivers/samsung-clp-775-color-laser-printer-series/model/16462342?sku=SS079K

That's useful, thanks.

Basic Drivers (1)

Samsung Universal Print Driver for Windows

File name: Driver-Universal Print Driver

V3.00.16.0101:01

I seem to have "CLP-775_Series_WIN_PCL_COLOR_V3.13.12.00.28_CDV1.23.exe"
- can't remember where I got it. In Properties, it says 2022/9/15 ...

Windows 11 Jul 29, 2024

... so I've downloaded the above one (it doesn't say Windows 11 to me -
the top of the page says Windows 10 (64-bit), which it has [correctly]
detected I'm using), though won't install it unless I have problems.

SamsungUniversalPrintDriver3_V3.00.16.0101.01.exe (38.5 MB)

Description:

This is the most current driver of the HP Universal Print Driver (UPD) for Windows for
Samsung printers.

HP's [owners of Samsung printer division] Terms of Use
*******

Paul

I've done the regedit suggested in the video pointed to by John K.Eason
(see my reply for what it contains), to stop any "update" attempt by
Windows; I _hope_ that will also stop any kill attempt as well as just
updates.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I was never drawn to sport, to which I attribute my long life.
- Barry Humphries, RT 2016/1/9-15

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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Daniel70 wrote:

Mr Xi Ji Ping wrote:

ohn C. wrote:

Take back
tech corporations from India & industry back from China.

Ajay Banga gave a major interview about what should happen in 2026:

https://youtu.be/IqBXFwg3fk4

He talks about India, migration, and the youth jobs time bomb. I
strongly recommend watching it to learn how to be successful in this
dynamic world.

Good luck, and I hope this will kick-start your self-education journey.

Hey, Mr Xi Ji Ping (WOW!! Does the general secretary of the Chinese
Communist Party and chairman of the Central Military Commission really frequent this newsgroup??)

I don't see what YOU quote and attribute to John C anywhere in John C.'s original post .... so are YOU mis-attributing stuff??

Daniel, he's quoting my signature file. You may have your news reader
set to hide signature files.

--
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makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech companies from India & industry from China.


--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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On 2026/2/16 10:15:46, John C. wrote:

Daniel70 wrote:

Mr Xi Ji Ping wrote:

ohn C. wrote:

Take back
tech corporations from India & industry back from China.

Ajay Banga gave a major interview about what should happen in 2026:

https://youtu.be/IqBXFwg3fk4

He talks about India, migration, and the youth jobs time bomb. I
strongly recommend watching it to learn how to be successful in this
dynamic world.

Good luck, and I hope this will kick-start your self-education journey.

Hey, Mr Xi Ji Ping (WOW!! Does the general secretary of the Chinese
Communist Party and chairman of the Central Military Commission really
frequent this newsgroup??)

I don't see what YOU quote and attribute to John C anywhere in John C.'s
original post .... so are YOU mis-attributing stuff??

Daniel, he's quoting my signature file. You may have your news reader
set to hide signature files.

And has completely snipped and then ignored what the main body of the
post is about.

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a
registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's not
clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[...]

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's not
clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

You've taken precautions and have the install package, so *if* the
installed driver gets removed by something, you can always fall back on
tne install package. All is good, I would say.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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On 2026/2/16 16:15:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[...]

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a

registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's no

t

clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

You've taken precautions and have the install package, so *if* the installed driver gets removed by something, you can always fall back on

tne install package. All is good, I would say.

Unless an "upgrade" puts in some sort of _block_ against the use of such drivers ("V3 and V4" I've heard them referred to as).

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
too dark to read." - Groucho Marx

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J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

On 2026/2/16 16:15:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[...]

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a
registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's not
clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

You've taken precautions and have the install package, so *if* the installed driver gets removed by something, you can always fall back on
tne install package. All is good, I would say.

Unless an "upgrade" puts in some sort of _block_ against the use of such drivers ("V3 and V4" I've heard them referred to as).

Poosibly, but I think unlikely. OTOH, this is Microsoft and Windows,
so anything goes, or rather, doesn't go.

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.11
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On Mon, 2/16/2026 11:48 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/2/16 16:15:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
[...]

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a
registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's not
clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

You've taken precautions and have the install package, so *if* the
installed driver gets removed by something, you can always fall back on
tne install package. All is good, I would say.

Unless an "upgrade" puts in some sort of _block_ against the use of such drivers ("V3 and V4" I've heard them referred to as).

Since Windows Defender has popped up notifications here before,
regarding some older driver files, I would say chances are good
that Microsoft has the "reach" when it needs it :-)

Paul

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On Mon, 2/16/2026 9:00 PM, Daniel70 wrote:

On 17/02/2026 3:06 am, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

On 2026/2/16 10:15:46, John C. wrote:

Daniel70 wrote:

Mr Xi Ji Ping wrote:

ohn C. wrote:

Take back
tech corporations from India & industry back from China.

Ajay Banga gave a major interview about what should happen in 2026:

https://youtu.be/IqBXFwg3fk4

He talks about India, migration, and the youth jobs time bomb. I
strongly recommend watching it to learn how to be successful in this >>>>> dynamic world.

Good luck, and I hope this will kick-start your self-education journey. >>>>>

Hey, Mr Xi Ji Ping (WOW!! Does the general secretary of the Chinese
Communist Party and chairman of the Central Military Commission really >>>> frequent this newsgroup??)

I don't see what YOU quote and attribute to John C anywhere in John C.'s >>>> original post .... so are YOU mis-attributing stuff??

Daniel, he's quoting my signature file. You may have your news reader
set to hide signature files.

And has completely snipped and then ignored what the main body of the
post is about.

(For anyone still wondering about the subject: the answer seems to be
that nobody knows, but don't rely on it not happening - and there is a
registry patch that will stop Windows updating drivers, though it's not
clear whether that will stop it _removing_ them.)

Sorry!! WHAT?? MicroSoft allows you to install a registry patch that stops the installation of registry patches that MicroSoft thinks you need!!

WHAT??

We might call those registry edits.

But you're not really a technician.

The Registry is a file system. It can hold arbitrary objects such
as a binary blob. It can hold things as small as a Boolean. It
has permissions (Registry keys can be owned by TrustedInstalller,
and those are very hard for a user to modify).

The OS has GPEdit.msc which holds Policies for the OS. In corporations, Policies can be "pushed out" to thousands of machines at a time. The
anchor for these, is a section of the Registry given over to registry
entries corresponding to the wishes of a policy.

Other areas of the Registry, are not parts of Policy. Yet, they still
control things. The Registry is a place to hold Application Preferences
for example.

A Registry Entry only has power, if an executable will "sniff it" and honor
the setting. If the executable code is removed or changed, a Registry
Entry may be a "powerless orphan". For example, release controls, over whether your OS can update itself, there were a fair number of keys abandoned and if you
looked at them you might say "if I flip this switch, something good will happen".
Well, nothing sniffs those any more, so the settings do nothing. It's up to
you to decide, which ones might do something.

Sometimes, Registry settings are "known" but have not been physically
entered into the Registry. This means an executable sniffs for them,
and finds the entry does not exist. If a user "adds" the entry and
programs it correctly, suddenly a new degree of control is realized.
Somebody has to discover these (via blog entry, knowing someone at the
company, or by examination or observation of executable activities with ProcMon). That raises the two cases then, Registry key exists but is not instantiated, or Registry key is instantiated but nothing "sniffs" it.

*******

If someone identifies a set of Registry keys, and they appear to be for
the intended purpose, there are reasonably good odds they will work.

Eventually, the situation in question, "a printer will not install
with a V3 or V4 universal framework driver", that will come to pass.
It could be changed at W11 26H2, or Release of Rental W12. The two Reg settings will likely work for the intervening period up to then. For a W10 user,
the setting should be effective. W10 is officially out of support and
changing the security footing (design change) to the OS should be
forbidden to the staff at this point. The year of free updates, those
are to plug CVE, not particularly to be making a cellphone out of W10.
But they'll make a cellphone out of any other thing under active design.

All OSes eventually stop. Some are financed past their best before date.
In addition, technology companies are not particularly gifted at
business continuity, they make mistakes, they stumble and they are gone.
Having a big pile of cash will not save you, because you're not
humble, you squander the cash, and eventually you hit a wall and are gone.
IBM, for example, is still around. But really, for how long ? Some companies that had depth, are now sheets of thin paper, waiting to be blown away.

Paul

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