On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet?What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to
prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own mail server and only >>>> want to communicate with 255 people, would this be possible? Armies
around the world would need a way to communicate with their commanders. >>>
operational
communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System Control
situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' .... well, as long
as they weren't communicating with someone else at that time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits).
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-09 10:36, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet?
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to >>>>>> prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own
mail server and only want to communicate with 255 people,
would this be possible? Armies around the world would need a
way to communicate with their commanders.
What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their
operational communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian
Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System
Control situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' ....
well, as long as they weren't communicating with someone else at that
time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits).
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
I worked for the military, but as a civilian. I don't know what the
people with guns use in the field,
Mainly Voice Radio, section to section. "Larger" Bases, Squadrons, Companies, etc, would have had some sort of TTY that would have been encrypted prior to being applied to a Radio signal, maybe multi-channel
TTY to the one Voice Channel.
I saw what they used in their offices, in peacetime. For things like
spares requirement and stock maintenance. I did not have access to
email or anything, just saw that some had it. My station had very old
software.
Software?? Old or otherwise beat what I had, Carlos!! ;-P
Obviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider,
they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
On 10/03/2026 11:23 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-10 09:48, Daniel70 wrote:
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
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system (did they have 13 numeral Stock Numbers (DSN [Defence StockObviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider,
they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
Huh, no way. Had to be via procurement office. All the paperwork and
blue tape. :-D
Yeap, the vast majority of Spare Parts were via the Army's Q-Store
Number] or NSN [NATO Stock Number])??) .... with the wait that that involved.
But, on occasion, we needed parts that were yet to make it into the Q-
Store system. Or we needed it *NOW* not in six weeks/months time!
On 2026-03-10 09:48, Daniel70 wrote:
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-09 10:36, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet?
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to >>>>>>> prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own
mail server and only want to communicate with 255 people,
would this be possible? Armies around the world would need a
way to communicate with their commanders.
What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their
operational communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian
Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System
Control situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' ....
well, as long as they weren't communicating with someone else at that >>>> time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits). >>>>
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
I worked for the military, but as a civilian. I don't know what the
people with guns use in the field,
Mainly Voice Radio, section to section. "Larger" Bases, Squadrons,
Companies, etc, would have had some sort of TTY that would have been
encrypted prior to being applied to a Radio signal, maybe multi-channel
TTY to the one Voice Channel.
I saw what they used in their offices, in peacetime. For things like
spares requirement and stock maintenance. I did not have access to
email or anything, just saw that some had it. My station had very old
software.
Software?? Old or otherwise beat what I had, Carlos!! ;-P
I think it was Windows 98 or NT, around 2010. I don't remember for certain.
Installed in a very secure way, the machine had to boot from the network (bios?boot from network) or it would not connect at all.
Obviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider,
they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
Huh, no way. Had to be via procurement office. All the paperwork and
blue tape. :-D
On 2026-03-07 00:18, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet?What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their operational >>>> communication medium? lol.
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to
prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own mail server and only >>>>> want to communicate with 255 people, would this be possible? Armies
around the world would need a way to communicate with their commanders. >>>>
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
Operationally, in the field?
I was not allowed there :-)))
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-03-10 09:48, Daniel70 wrote:
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-09 10:36, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet? >>>>>>>>
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to >>>>>>>> prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own
mail server and only want to communicate with 255 people,
would this be possible? Armies around the world would need a
way to communicate with their commanders.
What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their
operational communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian
Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System
Control situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' ....
well, as long as they weren't communicating with someone else at that >>>>> time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits). >>>>>
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
I worked for the military, but as a civilian. I don't know what the
people with guns use in the field,
Mainly Voice Radio, section to section. "Larger" Bases, Squadrons,
Companies, etc, would have had some sort of TTY that would have been
encrypted prior to being applied to a Radio signal, maybe multi-channel
TTY to the one Voice Channel.
I saw what they used in their offices, in peacetime. For things like
spares requirement and stock maintenance. I did not have access to
email or anything, just saw that some had it. My station had very old
software.
Software?? Old or otherwise beat what I had, Carlos!! ;-P
I think it was Windows 98 or NT, around 2010. I don't remember for certain. >>
Installed in a very secure way, the machine had to boot from the network
(bios?boot from network) or it would not connect at all.
Obviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider,
they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
Huh, no way. Had to be via procurement office. All the paperwork and
blue tape. :-D
"blue" tape is an interesting idiom. Is that a direct translation from Spanish? In English, overbearing bureaucracy is called *red* tape. I think it's because in the depths of time official/legal documents had red ribbons tied around them. High Court documents still do.
On 2026-03-11 13:01, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-03-10 09:48, Daniel70 wrote:
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-09 10:36, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet? >>>>>>>>>
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to >>>>>>>>> prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own
mail server and only want to communicate with 255 people,
would this be possible? Armies around the world would need a >>>>>>>>> way to communicate with their commanders.
What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their
operational communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian >>>>>> Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System
Control situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' .... >>>>>> well, as long as they weren't communicating with someone else at that >>>>>> time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits). >>>>>>
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
I worked for the military, but as a civilian. I don't know what the
people with guns use in the field,
Mainly Voice Radio, section to section. "Larger" Bases, Squadrons,
Companies, etc, would have had some sort of TTY that would have been
encrypted prior to being applied to a Radio signal, maybe multi-channel >>>> TTY to the one Voice Channel.
I saw what they used in their offices, in peacetime. For things like >>>>> spares requirement and stock maintenance. I did not have access to
email or anything, just saw that some had it. My station had very old >>>>> software.
Software?? Old or otherwise beat what I had, Carlos!! ;-P
I think it was Windows 98 or NT, around 2010. I don't remember for certain. >>>
Installed in a very secure way, the machine had to boot from the network >>> (bios?boot from network) or it would not connect at all.
Obviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider, >>>>> they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
Huh, no way. Had to be via procurement office. All the paperwork and
blue tape. :-D
"blue" tape is an interesting idiom. Is that a direct translation from
Spanish? In English, overbearing bureaucracy is called *red* tape. I think >> it's because in the depths of time official/legal documents had red ribbons >> tied around them. High Court documents still do.
Oh, no, mind goof. It is red tape. Maybe because I have some folders
that are actually tied with blue ribbons.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-03-11 13:01, Chris wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-03-10 09:48, Daniel70 wrote:
On 10/03/2026 7:23 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-09 10:36, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/03/2026 8:39 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-03-05 21:39, Chris wrote:
War Preparations <Kier@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Can emails be sent within a network without using the internet? >>>>>>>>>>
For example, governments might block the internet during a war to >>>>>>>>>> prevent hackers from spying. If you have your own
mail server and only want to communicate with 255 people,
would this be possible? Armies around the world would need a >>>>>>>>>> way to communicate with their commanders.
What makes you think armed forces use (public) email as their >>>>>>>>> operational communication medium? lol.
I worked for the military, and they did use email.
You must be a "newbie", then, Carlos. When I was in the Australian >>>>>>> Army (1973 - 93), sure, we could send Signals and, in a System
Control situation, we had direct tty comms to 'the other end' .... >>>>>>> well, as long as they weren't communicating with someone else at that >>>>>>> time (the one TTY-writer was switched between three or four circuits). >>>>>>>
But e-mails hadn't 'occurred' yet, at least in the Aust Army.
I worked for the military, but as a civilian. I don't know what the >>>>>> people with guns use in the field,
Mainly Voice Radio, section to section. "Larger" Bases, Squadrons,
Companies, etc, would have had some sort of TTY that would have been >>>>> encrypted prior to being applied to a Radio signal, maybe multi-channel >>>>> TTY to the one Voice Channel.
I saw what they used in their offices, in peacetime. For things like >>>>>> spares requirement and stock maintenance. I did not have access to >>>>>> email or anything, just saw that some had it. My station had very old >>>>>> software.
Software?? Old or otherwise beat what I had, Carlos!! ;-P
I think it was Windows 98 or NT, around 2010. I don't remember for certain.
Installed in a very secure way, the machine had to boot from the network >>>> (bios?boot from network) or it would not connect at all.
Obviously if they have to buy, say, bolts, from a civilian provider, >>>>>> they have to use email.
.... or got for a walk/ride down the street!
Huh, no way. Had to be via procurement office. All the paperwork and
blue tape. :-D
"blue" tape is an interesting idiom. Is that a direct translation from
Spanish? In English, overbearing bureaucracy is called *red* tape. I think >>> it's because in the depths of time official/legal documents had red ribbons >>> tied around them. High Court documents still do.
Oh, no, mind goof. It is red tape. Maybe because I have some folders
that are actually tied with blue ribbons.
Ah, shame. Would have been a fun difference.
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