• Re: Update?

    From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 13 07:00:07 2026
    On Wed, 5/13/2026 6:20 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Did I imagine it or was there a Windows 10 update this morning?

    What does the History link say on that page :-)

    This is a nonESU machine.

    KB2267602 Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender
    KB890830 Windows malicious Software Removal Tool
    KB5075039 2026-03 Windows Recovery Environment Update

    Since my Reagentc has "disabled" itself, it cannot see the 525MB
    winre.wim file from 2025, so the third item there completes
    without doing anything. Which is cool. Maybe next month or the
    month after, the 2026-03 update will run again. For its own
    amusement.

    Paul

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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 13 11:44:09 2026
    On 05/13/2026 6:20 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Did I imagine it or was there a Windows 10 update this morning?

    Windows 10 Pro ESU
    KB 5087544 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 22H2 x64
    KB 5088863 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8, 4.81
    KB 8900830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.140
    KB 2267602 Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus

    Apparently, no update included in May for Windows Recovery. April's
    cumulative update was the last WinRE update for Windows 10 ESU.


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  • From Jim the Geordie@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 13 17:36:18 2026
    On 13/05/2026 16:44, ....winston wrote:
    On 05/13/2026 6:20 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
    Did I imagine it or was there a Windows 10 update this morning?

    Windows 10 Pro ESU
    ÿKB 5087544 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 22H2 x64
    ÿKB 5088863 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8, 4.81
    ÿKB 8900830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.140
    ÿKB 2267602 Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus

    Apparently, no update included in May for Windows Recovery. April's cumulative update was the last WinRE update for Windows 10 ESU.


    Thanks.
    Got the first two.

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  • From John K.Eason@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 13 19:04:00 2026
    In article <10u1ja8$2njmp$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Jim@geordieland.com (Jim the Geordie) wrote:

    *From:* Jim the Geordie <Jim@geordieland.com>
    *Date:* Wed, 13 May 2026 11:20:57 +0100

    Did I imagine it or was there a Windows 10 update this morning?
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    Jim the Geordie

    The normal monthly update (if you're on the extended support channel)

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    John

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  • From John K.Eason@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 13 23:31:00 2026
    In article <10u2689$2pn5r$1@dont-email.me>, winstonmvp@gmail.com (....winston) wrote:

    Apparently, no update included in May for Windows Recovery. April's cumulative update was the last WinRE update for Windows 10 ESU.

    I've just rebooted after the monthly update and I now have:

    2026-04 Windows Recovery Environment Update (KB5087371)
    Successfully installed on 13/5/2026

    plus the 2026-05 cumulative updates for W10 22H2 (kb5087544) and .Net Framework (kb5088863) all in the Quality Updates section.

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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Thu May 14 03:20:41 2026
    On 05/13/2026 6:31 PM, John K.Eason wrote:
    In article <10u2689$2pn5r$1@dont-email.me>, winstonmvp@gmail.com (....winston)
    wrote:

    Apparently, no update included in May for Windows Recovery. April's
    cumulative update was the last WinRE update for Windows 10 ESU.

    I've just rebooted after the monthly update and I now have:

    2026-04 Windows Recovery Environment Update (KB5087371)
    Successfully installed on 13/5/2026

    plus the 2026-05 cumulative updates for W10 22H2 (kb5087544) and .Net Framework
    (kb5088863) all in the Quality Updates section.


    KB5087371 => April Windows Recovery Update, but installed in May.
    - i.e. it was released on April 14th.

    Which indicates, either Windows(on the device) was not updated with the cumulative update on or after April 14, 2026 or the Recovery update was
    not installed(often, for the usual reasons - insufficient space in
    Recovery partition, corruption in the Windows Update cache(on the
    device), 3rd party drivers(rare, but possible), interruption(power,
    aborted Windows Update, or other).

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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Thu May 14 03:47:51 2026
    On 05/13/2026 2:22 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    John K.Eason wrote:
    The normal monthly update (if you're on the extended support channel)

    The OP didn't mention if he's on ESU or not, but for those, like me, who
    are not on ESU, we got a "fake update" today, which isn't a real update.

    To see what's pending in the Windows-Update queue, I just ran this:
    PS C:\Windows\system32> Get-WindowsUpdate

    ComputerName Status KB Size Title
    ------------ ------ -- ---- -----
    B ------- KB2267602 1GB Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defende...
    B ------- 22KB Microsoft - Other hardware - Microsoft Wireless Ro...
    B ------- 25KB Western Digital Technologies - WDC_SAM - 4.55.25.661
    B ------- 1MB Qualcomm Atheros Communications Inc. - Net - 10.0....
    B ------- 5MB SAMSUNG Electronics Co., Ltd. - AndroidUsbDeviceC...
    B ------- 5MB SAMSUNG Electronics Co., Ltd. - USB - 2.21.0.0
    B ------- 5MB SAMSUNG Electronics Co., Ltd. - Modem - 2.21.0.0

    That command won't work for most, unless they first install the PS
    Windows Update module, which by design is not included by default.

    Also, prior to use of that command a higher policy level is required
    since the module is normally interpreted as originating from an
    untrusted repository requiring either:
    Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
    or use of the
    Set-PSRepository commandlet option

    Your printout doesn't mean much with respect to Windows May 2026
    cumulative update.
    - it's only showing(as expected) the 'other' type of updates
    Available driver updates(Windows Update/'View optional updates' and an available Defender update(one not yet installed, but available)

    If your comment was intended to show 'what was installed' after updating
    with the May updates, you should have run:
    Get-WUHistory
    ....and looked at the first group of lines from the output for what was installed in May 2026.







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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Fri May 15 11:40:44 2026
    On 05/14/2026 1:17 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    ....winston wrote:
    That command won't work for most, unless they first install the PS
    Windows Update module, which by design is not included by default.

    Also, prior to use of that command a higher policy level is required
    since the module is normally interpreted as originating from an
    untrusted repository requiring either:
    Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
    or use of the
    Set-PSRepository commandlet option

    Your printout doesn't mean much with respect to Windows May 2026
    cumulative update.
    - it's only showing(as expected) the 'other' type of updates
    Available driver updates(Windows Update/'View optional updates' and an
    available Defender update(one not yet installed, but available)

    If your comment was intended to show 'what was installed' after updating
    with the May updates, you should have run:
    Get-WUHistory
    ....and looked at the first group of lines from the output for what was
    installed in May 2026.

    Hi Winston,

    Thank you for pointing out that I should have clarified that I'm using the PSWindowsUpdate module from the PowerShell Gallery, which, as you noted,
    does require bypassing the default restricted execution policy (most often via Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned) before the environment will even load the module. I must have done that long ago and forgot that I had done it.

    Thanks for helping out as the command would fail for others without that!
    And the whole point of providing the command/results is to help others.

    You're also right that Get-WindowsUpdate only shows the pending state.
    Those aren't pending. They've been present as noted in 'Other updates'
    for most devices running Win10 for years.
    - they're are optional drivers that can be installed if necessary.
    Orignally submitted to MSFT by the OEM for the as-shipped os as an
    option if later more current manufacturer or Windows provided drivers
    appear to/cause a problem. In some cases, they could also be later than
    the as-shipped drivers, submitted as updates(for inclusion in Windows)
    as replacements or additional legacy drivers but only until end of
    support for that OEM device(but...these are rare, and typically only
    submitted to fix an existing, known currently installed OEM driver
    problem or corruption.


    My goal was to highlight that for those of us not on ESU, the queue is noticeably empty of actual OS patches, leaving only Windwows Defender definitions and OEM drivers as the typical non-ESU Windows updates.

    See above w/r to OEM drivers


    To your point about verification, here is the output of Get-WUHistory.
    As we both would have expected, it's a ghost town for cumulative updates:
    PS C:\Windows\system32> Get-WUHistory | Select-Object -First 10

    ComputerName Operationname Result Date Title
    ------------ ------------- ------ ---- -----
    E Installation Succeeded 5/14/2026 10:16:... Security Intelligence Update for...
    E Installation Succeeded 5/13/2026 5:35:4... Windows Malicious Software Remov...

    Despite Patch Tuesday having come and gone, the history is entirely
    populated by KB2267602 (Security Intelligence) and the monthly MSRT. .

    MSRT are monthly release, but also cumulative(i.e. one can skip a month
    using any available option restricting Windows updates.

    But OS security hardening has stopped for non-ESU boxes.
    In summary, if it's not an ESU machine, then Patch Tuesday has
    effectively become malware definition & driver Tuesday instead.

    Old news, we knew this in 2022 that 22H2 was the fourteenth and last
    feature update and it's last security update would occur in Oct. 2025
    for devices not enrolled in ESU.


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