Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates afterwards??
On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta
updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates
afterwards??
No.
On 6/15/2026 8:58 PM, ....winston wrote:
On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta
updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates
afterwards??
No.
I have never ever operated a mainframe computer. I supposed you know what you said. :)
If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
thing you remember, is how cold it is in there.
On 6/15/2026 8:58 PM, ....winston wrote:
On 06/15/2026 6:52 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Delta update method.... I know mainframe operating systems use delta
updates. I wonder what will happen if you re-install an mainframe
operating system ... would you need to apply YEARS of delta updates
afterwards??
No.
I have never ever operated a mainframe computer. I supposed you know
what you said. :)
In an Enterprise environment, when using Delta Updates...the initial
install is almost always a recent version/build image created and
......
to apply "Years of delta updates" would be inefficient(and reasonably
stupid or a extremely good reason to find another more qualified person
to manage and oversee the entire process)
- Therefore, the 'No' answer.
If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will
forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing
your ass off in there.
On 6/16/2026 2:07 AM, Paul wrote:
If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will
forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing
your ass off in there.
Operators usually wear suits, like Men In Black. Not sure about (sexy?) female operators. And outside contractors.
I did enter and exit a mainframe computer room when doing industrial placement in
IBM World Trade (Asia) Corp. in Hong Kong. It's not that "freezing your ass off". :)
The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
(the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
On Tue, 6/16/2026 12:40 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/16/2026 2:07 AM, Paul wrote:
If you've ever been in a mainframe computer room, one
thing you remember, is how cold it is in there. You will
forget all your delta updates, once you are freezing
your ass off in there.
Operators usually wear suits, like Men In Black. Not sure about (sexy?) female operators. And outside contractors.
I did enter and exit a mainframe computer room when doing industrial placement in
IBM World Trade (Asia) Corp. in Hong Kong. It's not that "freezing your ass off". :)
Thermal practices vary by installation. Some of our mainframes
were installed in building spaces with weird dimensions
(long and slim). Those style of facilities did not use
the "killer" chiller plant. You could dress normally there.
The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
(the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
(the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
It is worse if you sit down.
I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
It is worse if you sit down.
I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
On 6/16/2026 9:19 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
The CDC machine, it might have been 57F with a breeze in there
(the breeze is the part that kills you), and the woman operator
wearing the thick angora sweater, she was constantly hugging herself
for warmth. She just hated working in those conditions, but that wasn't
a union shop. She never ever smiled. That's why
my nick for her was "The Ice Queen".
It is worse if you sit down.
I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl that
preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
It is worse if you sit down.
I'm told there are worse places: abattoirs. I knew a cleaning girl
that preferred cleaning than working there. She got sick.
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
On 6/16/2026 10:26 PM, ....winston wrote:
On 06/16/2026 9:19 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 13:44, Paul wrote:
And nobody wore suits in our mainframe facilities. Same goes
for the university mainframe. Attire was casual. You would
wear something heavy enough, for the conditions.
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
No.
3270 terminal emulation is available since MS-DOS days. You needed a
3270 adapter to do it, and relevant software of course. Nowadays, I
believe IBM mainframes can bridge with TCP/IP and run 3270 terminal emulation on top of it. The same should go to IBM AS/400.
On 06/16/2026 11:03 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:Sorry... sorry... I failed to comprehend "7C/44F" as temperature
On 6/16/2026 10:26 PM, ....winston wrote:
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
No.
You missed the point or didn't understand the concept.
Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an
unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are
external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe management.
Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.
Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting business or risk. For some time, the two-tier web-based ....
On 6/17/2026 8:05 AM, ....winston wrote:
Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an
unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are
external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe
management.
Why not place some Windows machines inside a computer room if they can
run terminal emulation? I think operator consoles of IBM mainframes are still 3270????
Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.
Which is strange!! There is nothing wrong about 3270, VT-100 and ANSI.
To secure these old protocols, just box or wrap them with a security shield???
BTW, IBM mainframes (and AS/400 possibly) have communication controllers with security built-in.
Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting
business or risk.ÿ For some time, the two-tier web-based ....
What made modern LAN and Wifi adapters/USB dongles more secured?ÿ :)
Feel free to have the last word. Your need to learn based on your
questioning is not really Windows 11 or 10 newsgroup related topic.
On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
This place is spotless clean.
Again, missing the rationale. Not necessary to have endpoint devices in
the mainframe room. Nor is there much of a need to waste a body to use
them. That same body can do the same work externally.
Old school.
Already explained the better(performance, time, expense, features) technology for the same task.
SAE/WP3, OWE, 192-bit, digital signed, secure bootstrapping.
- which incidentally has nothing to do with emulation, old version, mainframe rooms, 3270.
Feel free to have the last word. Your need to learn based on your
questioning is not really Windows 11 or 10 newsgroup related topic.
On 2026-06-16 16:26, ....winston wrote:
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
I'm sure the place, if modern, is full of electronic controllers and computers.
On 6/17/2026 2:31 PM, ....winston wrote:
Again, missing the rationale. Not necessary to have endpoint devices in
the mainframe room. Nor is there much of a need to waste a body to use
them.ÿ That same body can do the same work externally.
Old school.
ÿÿ Already explained the better(performance, time, expense, features)
technology for the same task.
SAE/WP3, OWE, 192-bit, digital signed, secure bootstrapping.
ÿÿ - which incidentally has nothing to do with emulation, old version,
mainframe rooms, 3270.
Feel free to have the last word. Your need to learn based on your
questioning is not really Windows 11 or 10 newsgroup related topic.
BTW, I think I rather talk to IBM suits directly than listening to your speculation and possibly wild guesses. :)
On 6/17/2026 2:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
This place is spotless clean.
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
On 6/17/2026 2:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 16:26, ....winston wrote:
A place unlikely for any Windows 11 or 10 devices at 7C/44F or lower.
I'm sure the place, if modern, is full of electronic controllers and
computers.
I still don't see why a mainframe computer cannot have DOS, OS/2,
Windows and Linux machines. Can I talk to your commander? :)
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery theatre.
Lol..I passed along your 'rather talk to IBM suits' comment on this
topic to a few of those admins..they all had pretty much the same type
of response. Here's 3 of the PG responses
- "Barking up the wrong pantlegs'
- "Askhole approach"
- "Try changing the meds"
Your continued quest on mainframes - 3270, having DOS, Windows, Linux is
the essence of novelty..asking for something or about something no one
needs.
- While asking(after constant message subject changes) may serve to
fill some void, needed attention, or spark conversation...it really
doesn't serve the general population interest in either Win11 or Win11 alt.comp.os groups).
fyi...w/r to you listening to speculation and guessing.
- you've not been around long enough to know my history and posted
content source is not speculative or guestimation but tribal knowledge, colleagues and friends(private listservers with server and security
admins collectively managing hundreds of thousand of devices, Microsoft personnel[current and former]).
i.e. vet well in advance of replying.
They simply don't. They may use PCs to connect to the mainframe while
I still don't see why a mainframe computer cannot have DOS, OS/2,
Windows and Linux machines. Can I talk to your commander? :)
sitting in the office, though.
On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
theatre.
On 2026-06-18 11:49, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other
things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
theatre.
Because it is an abattoir. They do the entire thing, from killing the
pigs to producing the sausages.
On 6/17/2026 8:05 AM, ....winston wrote:
Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an
unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are
external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe
management.
Why not place some Windows machines inside a computer room if they can
run terminal emulation? I think operator consoles of IBM mainframes are still 3270????
Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.
Which is strange!! There is nothing wrong about 3270, VT-100 and ANSI.
To secure these old protocols, just box or wrap them with a security shield???
BTW, IBM mainframes (and AS/400 possibly) have communication controllers with security built-in.
Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting
business or risk.ÿ For some time, the two-tier web-based ....
What made modern LAN and Wifi adapters/USB dongles more secured?ÿ :)
On 2026-06-18 14:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 11:49, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/18/2026 2:40 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:Why didn't you say "sausage factory"? BANG!! :)
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other >>>> things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more. >>>> You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
theatre.
Because it is an abattoir. They do the entire thing, from killing the
pigs to producing the sausages.
And the point, anyway, is that it is a colder place than any computer or server room. Harder on the staff.
On 2026-06-16 20:19, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/17/2026 8:05 AM, ....winston wrote:
Few Windows 11 or 10 devices are present on mainframe servers(an
unlikely place for Windows 11/10 devices). Windows 11/10 devices are
external to mainframe environment and acting as endpoint for mainframe
management.
Why not place some Windows machines inside a computer room if they can
run terminal emulation? I think operator consoles of IBM mainframes
are still 3270????
Enterprise admins are not jumping through hoops to use 3270 emulation.
Which is strange!! There is nothing wrong about 3270, VT-100 and ANSI.
To secure these old protocols, just box or wrap them with a security
shield???
BTW, IBM mainframes (and AS/400 possibly) have communication
controllers with security built-in.
Those 3270 emulators are becoming dinosaurs, less secure in protecting
business or risk.ÿ For some time, the two-tier web-based ....
What made modern LAN and Wifi adapters/USB dongles more secured?ÿ :)
I have not been hands-on close to IBM mainframes since the OS was called MVT, but I am pretty sure that real 3279's are long gone, except in the incarnation of tn3270 (3270 over telnet). And I suspect the console
complex is a PC "service processor". I wonder if it runs OS/2?
Lars Poulsen wrote:
I suspect the console complex is a PC "service processor". I wonder if
it runs OS/2?
Yes, thinkpad with OS/2 Warp on a z seies
<https://youtu.be/AptJJsO5qCg&t=343>
On 6/18/26 07:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Lars Poulsen wrote:
I suspect the console complex is a PC "service processor". I wonder
if it runs OS/2?
Yes, thinkpad with OS/2 Warp on a z seies
<https://youtu.be/AptJJsO5qCg&t=343>
Wow! I didn't realize this was still true. I can see the point in using
an OS that's 100% under IBM's control, though.
I have not been hands-on close to IBM mainframes since the OS was called
MVT, but I am pretty sure that real 3279's are long gone ...
IBM stopped making terminals some years ago.
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/17/2026 2:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as
dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
This place is spotless clean.
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and other things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month or more.
You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a surgery
theatre.
On 18/06/2026 07:40, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 06:59, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:I doubt its simply cleanliness. That type of food product is usually
On 6/17/2026 2:28 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-16 15:55, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Better wear a full face-mask and a disposable coat. Abattoirs are as >>>>> dangerous as mortuary in hospitals. The floor is always dirty.
This place is spotless clean.
That's strange. A *huamn* aAbattoir?? BANG!! BANG!! :)
The place I'm talking about makes (as final product) sausages and
other things sealed in plastic and kept cold, that keeps for a month
or more. You can not do that if the place is not about as clean as a
surgery theatre.
plastic packaged to avoid oxygen, i.e. under vacuum or nitrogen.
On 2026-06-18 22:26, MikeS wrote:
I doubt its simply cleanliness. That type of food product is usually
plastic packaged to avoid oxygen, i.e. under vacuum or nitrogen.
Yes, of course. And maybe sterilized after sealing.
On 6/19/2026 6:26 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-06-18 22:26, MikeS wrote:
I doubt its simply cleanliness. That type of food product is usually
plastic packaged to avoid oxygen, i.e. under vacuum or nitrogen.
Yes, of course. And maybe sterilized after sealing.
A GREAT place to rape+murder someone and dispose of it? :)
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.No. Not interested in them personally and at home. Not sure about
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
On 6/18/2026 9:48 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:
I have not been hands-on close to IBM mainframes since the OS was called
MVT, but I am pretty sure that real 3279's are long gone ...
I remember the weight of a 3279 graphical terminal when I worked in IBM
World Trade Asia Corp.! It's really heavy and big! :)
On 19/06/2026 3:04 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/18/2026 10:58 PM, Peter Flass wrote:I had to Google that Date.
IBM stopped making terminals some years ago.
IBM moved its Hong Kong HQ to Japan after my industrial placement.
Some said it's because of June 4 1989.
How quickly we forget .... or is it just that sooooo many 'BAD' things
are happening that we forget sooo quickly??
https://www.onthisday.com/date/1989/june/4
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
Paul
On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:[]
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
Paul
Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes) -match ?Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ?Windows UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ?Microsoft UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ?Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023?)
On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:[]
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
Paul
Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Windows UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023?)
Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
True
True
True
True
Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
J. P. Gilliver wrote on 6/19/2026 3:47 PM:
On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:[]
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
ÿÿÿÿ Paul
Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes) >>> -match ?Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Windows UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023?)
Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
(including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
True
True
True
True
Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
Isn't that a pretty OLD version of windows?
It's so old that a lot of your concerns don't even make sense.
J. P. Gilliver wrote on 6/19/2026 3:47 PM:
On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:[]
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
ÿÿÿÿ Paul
Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes) >>> -match ?Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Windows UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023?)
Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands
(including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
True
True
True
True
Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
Isn't that a pretty OLD version of windows?
It's so old that a lot of your concerns don't even make sense.
On 2026/6/19 18:54:15, ....winston wrote:
On 06/19/2026 2:38 AM, Paul wrote:[]
You should be working on your Secure Boot and your BIOS.
That's what I'm doing right how. My motherboard
company released yet another BIOS on May 29 2026.
Paul
Open powershell application, type following commads one by one
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI kek).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Windows UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft UEFI CA 2023?)
([System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes)
-match ?Microsoft option rom UEFI CA 2023?)
Once I'd run powershell with admin. privileges, and ensured the commands (including the "-match ...") part were all on one line, I got
True
True
True
True
Is that good, bad, or indifferent? (Windows 10-64 22H2 19045.7417)
On 19/06/2026 3:04 am, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 6/18/2026 10:58 PM, Peter Flass wrote:I had to Google that Date.
IBM stopped making terminals some years ago.
IBM moved its Hong Kong HQ to Japan after my industrial placement. Some
said it's because of June 4 1989.
How quickly we forget .... or is it just that sooooo many 'BAD' things
are happening that we forget sooo quickly??
https://www.onthisday.com/date/1989/june/4
| Sysop: | Tetrazocine |
|---|---|
| Location: | Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
| Users: | 12 |
| Nodes: | 8 (0 / 8) |
| Uptime: | 129:55:39 |
| Calls: | 220 |
| Files: | 21,513 |
| Messages: | 83,383 |