• Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crash

    From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 05:06:58 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On Sun, 7/19/2026 10:48 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    I admit I have no backup and I was overly confident in removing IPv6 on Windows 10, where currently I have to glaringly obvious symptoms:
    1. The Wi-Fi symbol is gone from the taskbar notification area
    2. Win+I > Settings > Network & Internet crashes within seconds

    I'm currently using a spare router as an ersatz Wi-Fi where the rest of Windows 10 is working just fine. It's just the Wi-Fi that won't work.

    It's not hardware because I swapped out the old USB Wi-Fi dongle.
    Same thing.

    It happens even without the Wi-Fi card installed & there's no Ethernet icon in the taskbar notification area when I'm on the net with the router.

    It's software, for sure.
    DISM and scannow found corrupted files but that didn't solve anything.

    I've uninstalled and re-installed the drivers a thousand times.
    It's no big deal, but I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this?


    Try a Repair Install, with no promise it will improve the situation.
    But it's a standard recommendation when you're in a tight spot.

    Take a backup first, of what you've got. Then do the Repair Install.
    If "winver" tells you that you are on 22H2, then you would use
    your 22H2 DVD to do the Repair Install. Run the Setup.exe on the
    DvD. A preferred way to do it, is use the ISO9660, right click it
    and "Mount" the ISO as a virtual DVD drive, then run the Setup.exe
    off that to kick off the Repair Install. It will tell you it
    is keeping all user files and programs. Normally, the Windows Installer
    is very good at cleaning up after itself (if an install fails it
    rolls back). Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    With Windows, you should be collecting the DVD images. Every time
    a new one comes out (21H2, 22H2...) you keep a copy. Then, if you
    need to do a Repair Install, you have the file for it. I don't
    have all the releases of everything, but I have somewhere around
    a terabyte of OS images here, on various storage devices. And then
    I have to search through my collection, for the right "BeeGees
    Greatest Hits" to load in the DVD drive :-)

    As for "asking a lot of questions after the Repair Install is done",
    the Repair Install does not do that. If may mess with the Widget
    Setting and you may find the Weather listed on the task bar, or
    see some irritating remnants on a lock screen. But that's normally
    about it for side effects. Maybe the Notifications settings
    will "need your attention", as otherwise their advertising setting
    may have become enabled again.

    Paul

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 09:13:21 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since Win98SE.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his friends for his
    life.
    (Jeremy Thorpe, 1962)

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 06:46:53 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since Win98SE.


    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all partitions.

    I plugged in a Win2K CD one day. I started doing a side-by-side
    install, then decided to cancel it. Well, it was too late, the
    CD had erased the MBR and its partition table :-) That was the
    one time, that when I used TestDisk, it scanned the device
    correctly and crafted a new MBR that was perfect. I might
    have had to put 440 bytes of boot code in there too (as TestDisk
    does not do that part). I was able to completely salvage the drive,
    so no real serious harm had happened. And that is one of the
    few times a Windows disc "took hostages".

    Whereas on Linux, I had Debian erase all the other Linux on a disk,
    and there was no recovery on that one.

    So anyway, if you have three Linux on a disk, you're adding
    a fourth and it is Debian... then back up the whole disk drive.
    Because you know what a hostage taking situation is like, very
    messy. And later, if the install attempt does not damage
    anything, you can toss that backup file after a few days.

    It's pretty hard, to keep a disk drive around, with enough
    room to back up an entire other disk drive. I have plenty of
    experience of "spending a day moving crap around until I have
    enough room". That drives me nuts. And the bigger the HDD get,
    the longer and longer the house cleaning takes. And with the
    price of HDD today (July price is double the January price),
    it's not like I can run out and buy another.

    *******

    Losing the MBR is not the end of the world. Losing
    the GPT partition table(s) is not the end of the world either.
    If you know the starting address of a partition,
    you can still access it. You can access it enough to copy it.
    A Linux loopback mount has an offset parameter, which gives
    you the necessary "starting address" capability.

    It is when evil software writes to your partitions on
    purpose and damages them, *that* is when you'll be wishing
    you backed up the D: data partition. If you were doing an experiment,
    like introducing malware onto a disk drive that had C: and D: ,
    you would definitely back up both C: and D: and later, before
    restoring, you would zero the drive from end to end. That's to
    ensure there are no hidden materials before you do the restore.
    The last cylinder is a good place to hide "stuff".

    Paul

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 10:53:52 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kuat$147il$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since Win98SE.


    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all >partitions.

    This isn't a side by side install, it's a repair/reinstall of the OS.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Did you know on the Canary Islands there is not one canary?
    And on the Virgin Islands same thing, not one canary.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 07:24:45 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 6:53 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kuat$147il$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since Win98SE. >>>

    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all partitions.

    This isn't a side by side install, it's a repair/reinstall of the OS.


    Correct. And for that, making a backup of C: and the ESP partition,
    that would be a good start. If you like a working WinRE, you can
    back up your Recovery partition too. You don't need to back up D: ,
    as D: getting hit by a bus, is less likely to happen during a Repair Install. The approach the install uses, does not endanger materials outside
    the area of interest. It's Clean Installs or Side-by-Side installs,
    where there is a "tiny" risk, as indicated by my having two or three
    disks wiped in twenty years of doing this stuff. That's what a tiny risk is.

    If D: were important to you, you already are making infrequent backups
    of it, like every three months, snapshot your D: so you don't
    lose everything on it.

    A Repair Install does not necessarily re-pave the BCD file. It
    modifies something in there enough, for the four phases of install
    and booting the right thing on the first reboot.

    And if you have to, you can *format* the ESP (FAT32 EFI System Partition)
    and rebuild it yourself. It's not actually that hard to do. Now that I've
    done one this year. Some commands only affect the BCD file itself, but
    there is one command which will re-fill K:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot with materials. You have to use a Reagentc Recovery Recipe to refill K:\EFI\Microsoft\Recovery with materials (called PBR or Push Button Reset, for WinRE).

    When you boot a Macrium Rescue CD, Macrium already has a drive letter
    assigned to the ESP partition. That's not particularly important, and
    that saves you a minute doing that mapping manually. And that doesn't
    use the letter K: . I use the letter K: in a lot of my recipes, as
    an indication of a "temporarily assigned drive letter for a recipe".
    Other people or things don't care about K: particularly. This is
    what I mean by K: , spelled out.

    diskpart.exe
    list disk
    select disk 0
    list partition
    select partition 1 # The ESP
    assign letter=K # Now, the ESP is K:
    exit

    After we're done that, this is restoring your boot materials K:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot ,
    so you can at least boot again.

    format K: /fs:fat32 /Q # A quick format of the K: partition. Boot now broken.
    bcdboot c:\Windows /s K: /f uefi # Boot now fixed. Any additional fix, can be via EasyBCD 2.4
    # or by yet another bcdboot command (with different params).

    I haven't done the experiment, but the SuperGrub disc, may be able to
    chain load a Windows, if you've damaged the ESP. I should probably
    put this test case on my TODO list.

    https://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/super-grub2-disk-stable/

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub2/files/2.06s4/super_grub2_disk_2.06s4/supergrub2-classic-2.06s4-multiarch-CD.iso/download

    Name: supergrub2-classic-2.06s4-multiarch-CD.iso
    Size: 24,905,728 bytes (23 MiB)
    SHA256: D26EE9CDA990051FBE4C2B367659DF5156A130A7ADA29F0B4FB0E65928D8EBAB

    Not every possible mode works on that, but it's worth a shot when
    you think your world has ended :-) I find it much much easier to repair
    an OS, if I can boot into it. It's much easier than finding offline options
    for a fix.

    [Picture] USB-Tethered-SSD-Boot.jpg (actually, depicts operation of SuperGrub2)

    https://imgur.com/a/fCKwAl9

    https://postimg.cc/DmvKNttQ

    Paul

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 11:30:26 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On 20/07/2026 in message <113l0hu$14tt6$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 6:53 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kuat$147il$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since >>>>Win98SE.


    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all >>>partitions.

    This isn't a side by side install, it's a repair/reinstall of the OS.


    Correct. And for that, making a backup of C: and the ESP partition,
    that would be a good start. If you like a working WinRE, you can
    back up your Recovery partition too. You don't need to back up D: ,
    as D: getting hit by a bus, is less likely to happen during a Repair >Install.

    Very poor advice. Have you never installed Windows only to have it unable
    to find its install drive when it tries to boot?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do or
    say nothing. (Edmund Burke)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 09:13:25 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 7:30 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113l0hu$14tt6$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 6:53 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kuat$147il$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote: >>>>>
    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since Win98SE.


    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all partitions.

    This isn't a side by side install, it's a repair/reinstall of the OS.


    Correct. And for that, making a backup of C: and the ESP partition,
    that would be a good start. If you like a working WinRE, you can
    back up your Recovery partition too. You don't need to back up D: ,
    as D: getting hit by a bus, is less likely to happen during a Repair Install.

    Very poor advice. Have you never installed Windows only to have it unable to find its install drive when it tries to boot?


    Yes, I have, and I've also fixed that,

    Inaccessible Boot Volume can be fixed two ways.

    1) Safe Mode. Safe Mode recomputes the driver scheme and figures out
    which driver should be used. Later boots, may be relying on this
    determination. It's up to you to figure out how best to enter
    Safe Mode. I have my own method for this. In the page here, my computers
    boot via the black ("WinXP") menu, not the blue Lozenge menu.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/22455-enable-disable-f8-advanced-boot-options-windows-10-a.html

    You need a way, sometimes, to get booted, and the SuperGrub2 is worth
    a shot if nothing else is working. But having access to Safe Mode is
    an important part of resolving these cases. You need a way of getting
    to Safe Mode, any day of the week. Plan ahead.

    2) Booting into Safe Mode and using the Boot Bus Extender byte, may fix
    the situation as well. That's my recent USB Tethered SSD experiment, where
    the OS boots off a USB path. There is a single Registry byte needing an
    edit for that. I got lucky in a Google, and found a paragraph with the details.

    To make Windows load the USB drivers sooner:

    Press WinR, type regedit and hit Enter
    Enter HKLM\SYSTEM\HardwareConfig\ in the address bar at the top
    On the left, choose the entry with the UUID of the boot partition
    Change BootDriverFlags's value to 14 (hexadecimal) [instead of 0x00]

    Paul


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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jul 20 13:31:28 2026
    Subject: Re: Taskbar notification network symbol gone & Network & Internet crashes

    On 20/07/2026 in message <113l6tl$16v3s$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 7:30 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113l0hu$14tt6$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 6:53 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kuat$147il$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote:

    On Mon, 7/20/2026 5:13 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/07/2026 in message <113kofj$12f3b$1@dont-email.me> Paul wrote: >>>>>>
    Having a safety backup of C: before the run, is
    just standard practice with software...

    Or whatever drive your data is on of course, "D" in my case since >>>>>>Win98SE.


    If doing side-by-side installs, you back up the whole device, all >>>>>partitions.

    This isn't a side by side install, it's a repair/reinstall of the OS.


    Correct. And for that, making a backup of C: and the ESP partition,
    that would be a good start. If you like a working WinRE, you can
    back up your Recovery partition too. You don't need to back up D: ,
    as D: getting hit by a bus, is less likely to happen during a Repair >>>Install.

    Very poor advice. Have you never installed Windows only to have it unable >>to find its install drive when it tries to boot?


    Yes, I have, and I've also fixed that,

    Inaccessible Boot Volume can be fixed two ways.

    Again you are missing the point. You really should stop trying to
    replicate Google in here.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Every day is a good day for chicken, unless you're a chicken.

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