• Re: Tip: Get Recycle (Trash) Bin back in Windows Explorer

    From Julieta Shem@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Mar 8 23:35:35 2024
    T <T@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Hi All,

    W10
    W11

    This will get you your trash bin back in the left
    column of Windows Explorer:

    <win><R> Regedit.exe
    --> By hand or make a *.reg out of the following:

    REGEDIT4

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]

    "System.IsPinnedToNameSpaceTree"=dword:00000001

    --> Reboot

    -T

    Cool stuff. Keep them coming.

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  • From R.Wieser@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 06:40:26 2024
    Emeritus,

    It happened to me, too once, but I don't remember how I fixed it,
    but I don't think I had to screw with the Registry for it.

    Long, long ago in a land far, far from here (XPsp3) you could do it here :

    Control Panel - Display - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Its quit possible that Win10 has got something similar, even if its dialog
    has moved somewhere else.

    Ah, yes. I can find that dialog thru here :

    Right-click the desktop - properties - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser



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  • From knuttle@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 08:29:54 2024
    On 03/09/2024 2:40 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
    Emeritus,

    It happened to me, too once, but I don't remember how I fixed it,
    but I don't think I had to screw with the Registry for it.

    Long, long ago in a land far, far from here (XPsp3) you could do it here :

    Control Panel - Display - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Its quit possible that Win10 has got something similar, even if its dialog has moved somewhere else.

    Ah, yes. I can find that dialog thru here :

    Right-click the desktop - properties - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    O

    OR
    Select Start, Settings > Personalization > Themes.

    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings. About
    half way down the page

    That is one thing I find amusing about this group, The first response
    to any problem is to change an item in the Windows Registry.

    Usually it can be done from Windows Setting.

    If you can find what you want a google search will find the answers.
    This takes less time and is less risky for the average user that make
    changes in the registry.


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 21:38:03 2024
    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.

    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.ÿ About
    half way down the page

    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows Registry.

    The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on the faucet.

    Both Win10 and Win11 provide the ability to reset or toggle on the
    Recycle Bin icon. Even when it is missing and shows as being toggled on, turning it off, then back on resolves the issue.

    Usually it can be done from Windows Setting.

    If you can find what you want a google search will find the answers. This takes less time and is less risky for the average user that make changes
    in the registry.


    Registry tweaks have their usefulness, but more often than not, an understanding and knowledge of Windows settings provides an easier and a
    more practical approach.

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  • From Julieta Shem@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 22:33:26 2024
    ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.
    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.ÿ
    About half way down the page
    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first
    response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows
    Registry.

    The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on
    the faucet.

    Lol. Although I'm the OP's attorney, the OP can claim his approach is
    the easiest. You double-click a .reg file and the task is done. No
    need to surf around various windows.

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  • From Newyana2@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 23:55:42 2024
    "Julieta Shem" <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote

    | > This will get you your trash bin back in the left
    | > column of Windows Explorer:
    | >
    | Cool stuff. Keep them coming.

    Did I miss something? The original post was about putting
    a Recycle icon in the Explorer window treeview. Everyone
    else seems to be talking about the Desktop. Why would
    anyone want a Recycle icon in Explorer windows?

    I went to great lengths to find the tweaks to clean the
    superfluous items out of that treeview. (Like "Videos",
    "Documents" and "3D Objects".... I still don't even know
    what a 3D Object is. It sounds too silly to look up. :)



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  • From Big Al@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 10 23:55:54 2024
    On 3/10/24 07:33 AM, Julieta Shem wrote:
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.
    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.
    About half way down the page
    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first
    response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows
    Registry.

    The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on
    the faucet.

    Lol. Although I'm the OP's attorney, the OP can claim his approach is
    the easiest. You double-click a .reg file and the task is done. No
    need to surf around various windows.
    True, but if you have to explain it to someone (less computer literate) over the phone, please don't
    put them through the hell of regedit. You could however email them the .reg file, that wouldn't
    be too hard to walk them through the needed clicks.
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    Al


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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 02:59:34 2024
    R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
    Emeritus,

    It happened to me, too once, but I don't remember how I fixed it,
    but I don't think I had to screw with the Registry for it.

    Long, long ago in a land far, far from here (XPsp3) you could do it here :

    Control Panel - Display - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Its quit possible that Win10 has got something similar, even if its dialog has moved somewhere else.

    Ah, yes. I can find that dialog thru here :

    Right-click the desktop - properties - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    The OP ('T') was talking about the Recycle Bin in *"Windows Explorer"* (should be File Explorer, but let's not nitpick), not on the Desktop.
    (You snipped 'T's text from Emeritus' response, but the essence was and
    is in the 'Subject:'.)

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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 03:47:15 2024
    On 3/10/2024 8:55 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
    "Julieta Shem" <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote

    | > This will get you your trash bin back in the left
    | > column of Windows Explorer:
    | >
    | Cool stuff. Keep them coming.

    Did I miss something? The original post was about putting
    a Recycle icon in the Explorer window treeview. Everyone
    else seems to be talking about the Desktop. Why would
    anyone want a Recycle icon in Explorer windows?

    I went to great lengths to find the tweaks to clean the
    superfluous items out of that treeview. (Like "Videos",
    "Documents" and "3D Objects".... I still don't even know
    what a 3D Object is. It sounds too silly to look up. :)



    3D Builder, is in the Microsoft Store. It can pull models from
    a Microsoft server. The file extension is 3mf, which could be
    Makerfile, something a filament based 3D printer might print
    in plastic. Check your Start Menu and see if it is already there.

    \Users\username\3D Objects\3D Builder\shape_cube_221031_031314.3mf

    *******

    Paint 3D is an art program, but it is a bit shy.
    Using Process Monitor (procmon), it wrote something here when I started a Project.

    3/10/2024 12:04:10.8085082 PM
    PaintStudio.View.exe
    CreateFile
    C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.MSPaint_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalState\Projects
    Projects.json <===

    Otherwise, a search of the file system, could not find my named art project,
    so I had to search for it the hard way (watch it do a CreateFile).

    Paul

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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 04:41:04 2024
    On 3/10/2024 8:55 AM, Big Al wrote:
    On 3/10/24 07:33 AM, Julieta Shem wrote:
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.
    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.
    About half way down the page
    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first
    response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows
    Registry.

    ÿ The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on
    ÿ the faucet.

    Lol.ÿ Although I'm the OP's attorney, the OP can claim his approach is
    the easiest.ÿ You double-click a .reg file and the task is done.ÿ No
    need to surf around various windows.
    True, but if you have to explain it to someone (less computer literate) over the phone, please don't ÿput them through the hell of regedit.ÿÿ You could however email them the .reg file, that wouldn't be too hard to walk them through the needed clicks.

    Right-click and Merge a .reg file.

    As long as a .reg file (text) has the correct
    format, then the computer can consume it. When you
    Merge a .reg file, it can add or subtract Registry entries.
    Both adding and subtracting are dangerous, and
    you only accept files from people you trust,
    who also happen to be clever enough to pull off
    the fabrication of such files.

    Polite inventors, make do.reg and undo.reg files,
    for activities that are optional. This allows people
    who are not knowledgeable about the Registry, to add a
    thing, test it, then remove it again. And if the
    files are well made, there are no side effects.
    You merge the do.reg , test something, then merge the undo.reg.
    And if the files are good at what they do, your
    system is not harmed.

    Places like tenforums.com offer things like that.

    When you first start playing with sticks of dynamite
    like that, it helps to open the file in Notepad and
    examine what the "do.reg" and the "undo.reg" propose to do.

    Generally speaking, the longer the file is, the
    more danger that a bug could be present in it. I've
    rejected files before, just based on length. But that's
    also based on "where could the person have copied this
    from". If it doesn't look like an OS stanza, it could
    be a piece of twaddle.

    The registry has ownership. Attempting to merge a .reg
    file which modifies something owned by TrustedInstaller,
    that's not trivial to do. And it's even possible that
    the recipe for that which used to work, no longer works.
    In some cases, a thing owned by TrustedInstaller, a
    malware did that, and it wasn't an ordinary OS operation
    that you're dealing with. So while most of the time,
    a distributed .reg file, you have the authority to Merge it,
    in some cases you'll be out of your depth and an error
    message will indicate that something is up with the
    ownership.

    Paul

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  • From R.Wieser@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 04:52:51 2024
    Newyana2,

    | > This will get you your trash bin back in the left
    | > column of Windows Explorer:

    Did I miss something? The original post was about putting
    a Recycle icon in the Explorer window treeview. Everyone
    else seems to be talking about the Desktop.

    Because normally (at least under XPsp3) if something is put on the desktop
    it also appears in that tree (which root is the desktop). Just as if the desktop is a normal folder. :-)

    But you've got a point : although I have disabled "My Computer", "My Documents" and "My Network Places" thru that dialog (which doesn't have an entry for the trash bin by the way) they still appear in the tree.
    Currently I've got no idea (if I had one I forgot) how to remove those name-space folders from the tree itself.

    YMMV for Win10/11

    Why would anyone want a Recycle icon in Explorer windows?

    So that, if that anyone does the registry-edit to suppress the trash bin
    from the desktop window, he can still access his deleted files ?

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser



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  • From knuttle@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 06:13:26 2024
    On 03/10/2024 11:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
    Emeritus,

    It happened to me, too once, but I don't remember how I fixed it,
    but I don't think I had to screw with the Registry for it.

    Long, long ago in a land far, far from here (XPsp3) you could do it here : >>
    Control Panel - Display - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Its quit possible that Win10 has got something similar, even if its dialog >> has moved somewhere else.

    Ah, yes. I can find that dialog thru here :

    Right-click the desktop - properties - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    The OP ('T') was talking about the Recycle Bin in *"Windows Explorer"* (should be File Explorer, but let's not nitpick), not on the Desktop.
    (You snipped 'T's text from Emeritus' response, but the essence was and
    is in the 'Subject:'.)
    In my response I assumed he was talking about a missing Icon on the Desk
    top.

    When you look at C: drive in File Explorer the folder $Recycle.Bin
    contains the Recycle bin "Recycle Bin".

    To my knowledge there is no way to remove it, unless your folder
    settings is set to hid System filers.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 07:10:04 2024
    Julieta Shem wrote on 3/10/24 4:33 AM:
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.
    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.
    About half way down the page
    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first
    response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows
    Registry.

    The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on
    the faucet.

    Lol. Although I'm the OP's attorney, the OP can claim his approach is
    the easiest. You double-click a .reg file and the task is done. No
    need to surf around various windows.

    Seems like the OP should get an attorney in the same GMT zone(-800)
    instead of -300.



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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 07:21:06 2024
    Frank Slootweg wrote on 3/10/24 8:59 AM:
    R.Wieser <address@is.invalid> wrote:
    Emeritus,

    It happened to me, too once, but I don't remember how I fixed it,
    but I don't think I had to screw with the Registry for it.

    Long, long ago in a land far, far from here (XPsp3) you could do it here : >>
    Control Panel - Display - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    Its quit possible that Win10 has got something similar, even if its dialog >> has moved somewhere else.

    Ah, yes. I can find that dialog thru here :

    Right-click the desktop - properties - Desktop tab - Customize Desktop

    The OP ('T') was talking about the Recycle Bin in *"Windows Explorer"* (should be File Explorer, but let's not nitpick), not on the Desktop.
    (You snipped 'T's text from Emeritus' response, but the essence was and
    is in the 'Subject:'.)


    File Explorer Click View > Navigation pane > Show all folders.
    - If the RB is not shown, toggle it off, then back on.
    A restart may be necessary after toggling off before toggling on


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  • From Julieta Shem@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 09:23:34 2024
    ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    Julieta Shem wrote on 3/10/24 4:33 AM:
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> writes:

    knuttle wrote on 3/9/24 2:29 PM:
    OR
    Select Start,ÿ Settings > Personalization > Themes.
    Under Themes > Related Settings: select Desktop icon settings.
    About half way down the page
    That is one thing I find amusing about this group,ÿ The first
    response to any problem is to change an item in the Windows
    Registry.

    The reg option in this case is like using a pipe wrench to turn on
    the faucet.
    Lol. Although I'm the OP's attorney, the OP can claim his approach
    is
    the easiest. You double-click a .reg file and the task is done. No
    need to surf around various windows.

    Seems like the OP should get an attorney in the same GMT zone(-800)
    instead of -300.

    Is that time zone discrimination? We'll file a formal complaint against
    you in the -0700 jurisdiction.

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  • From Newyana2@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 13:30:04 2024
    "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> wrote

    | But you've got a point : although I have disabled "My Computer", "My
    | Documents" and "My Network Places" thru that dialog (which doesn't have an
    | entry for the trash bin by the way) they still appear in the tree.
    | Currently I've got no idea (if I had one I forgot) how to remove those
    | name-space folders from the tree itself.
    |

    It's possible to clean it up, leaving only Desktop and drives.
    I can't seem to find the details right now. It might have been
    an option in Classic Shell.



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  • From Newyana2@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 11 13:34:22 2024
    "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote

    | 3D Builder, is in the Microsoft Store. It can pull models from
    | a Microsoft server. The file extension is 3mf, which could be
    | Makerfile, something a filament based 3D printer might print
    | in plastic.

    Strange. And the file format needs its own Explorer
    icon? I once had the free version of Sketchup, which an
    architect friend raved about, but I never actually got
    around to trying it. And I can certainly do without the
    Microsoft Store. But thanks for the explanation. I was
    guessing that it was some new kind of folder.



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