On 03/29/2024 3:54 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
I backup a 15 GB folder containing many files about twice per year.I have been using a free program called Syncback Free. https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
Iÿ use linux ddCopy for that but now I want to use a windows program.
I want to do the backup to an external HDD.
I'm willing to pay for the program, but prefer free.
QUESTION: Please suggest a program for this kind of backup.
Thank you.
Bill S.
There are paid version, but only needed if you are using the program in
a commercial setting.
Once you copy the data to the external drive, you can use Syncback Free
to either back up the data that has changed since it was last run, or
you can use it to sync your computer and external drive so you have
current copies of everything.
I learned of the program when I was forced from the OS/2 environment
into a Windows environment about 20 years ago. While I don't have it run automatically on my laptop, I manually run it once of twice a week,
activity considered.
I sync my laptop and desktop with Syncback free, and use the native
Windows back up, to backup the desktop to the external drive. Syncback
has never failed me, but I have had problems with he Windows backup
On 03/29/2024 3:54 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
I backup a 15 GB folder containing many files about twice per year.I have been using a free program called Syncback Free. https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
Iÿ use linux ddCopy for that but now I want to use a windows program.
I want to do the backup to an external HDD.
I'm willing to pay for the program, but prefer free.
QUESTION: Please suggest a program for this kind of backup.
Thank you.
Bill S.
There are paid version, but only needed if you are using the program in
a commercial setting.
Once you copy the data to the external drive, you can use Syncback Free
to either back up the data that has changed since it was last run, or
you can use it to sync your computer and external drive so you have
current copies of everything.
I learned of the program when I was forced from the OS/2 environment
into a Windows environment about 20 years ago. While I don't have it run automatically on my laptop, I manually run it once of twice a week,
activity considered.
I sync my laptop and desktop with Syncback free, and use the native
Windows back up, to backup the desktop to the external drive. Syncback
has never failed me, but I have had problems with he Windows backup
I have been using a free program called Syncback Free. https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
There are paid version, but only needed if you are using the program in
a commercial setting.
wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
I have been using a free program called Syncback Free.
https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
There are paid version, but only needed if you are using the program in
a commercial setting.
The free version does not support VSC (Volume Shadow Copy) which is
needed to backup locked files. Because of this, I had to pay to upgrade
to a Lite* version that does support VSC**. I already have a many-year
setup working with their free version, and paying to add VSC support
meant I didn't have to change anything (other than no longer seeing
errors in the logs on trying to copy files that were locked).
* They no longer have their Lite edition ($20). The next step up now
from their free version is their SE edition ($40). If I was to
start again, free FreeFileSync would be more attractive than a $40
solution although I find FreeFileSync's UI is clumsy.
** A solution is for you to use "vssadmin create shadow" to create a
shadow copy of the source, and use that in the sync job. Most
users are not comfortable using vssadmin, or learning about
shadows. Plus, the "create" directive is not available in vssadmin
in Home editions of Windows.
https://www.2brightsparks.com/assets/pdf/SyncBackFree.pdf
"VSS is not available in SyncBackFree."
(Only in SE and Pro editions)
There are some other features missing in SyncBack Free that might be
important to some users. While SB Free can sync using FTP, it doesn't support secure FTP (sFTP, FTPs). No file integrity check in free
version (to ensure what landed at the target matches the source). Lots
of features missing in the free version. See the comparison table at:
https://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/compare.html
I no longer have my comparison sheet when I first trialed both SyncBack
Free and FreeFileSync to check which features were not common in both,
or to compare SyncBack Lite (and their SE edition) with FreeFileSync.
If locked files are not an issue, like the folders/files you intend to
sync or mirror will be quiescent (not open for write access) at the time
the sync job runs, free SyncBack will suffice. Sometimes users want to include their e-mails in backups, but without VSC those files are likely locked. They may be unaware some files are locked until and unless they review the job logs.
Or use FreeFileSync, as you mention, for a freeware solution that does support VSC provided you don't need Syncback SE's other features now or
in the future.
wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote:
I have been using a free program called Syncback Free.
https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
There are paid version, but only needed if you are using the program in
a commercial setting.
The free version does not support VSC (Volume Shadow Copy) which is
needed to backup locked files. Because of this, I had to pay to upgrade
to a Lite* version that does support VSC**. I already have a many-year
setup working with their free version, and paying to add VSC support
meant I didn't have to change anything (other than no longer seeing
errors in the logs on trying to copy files that were locked).
* They no longer have their Lite edition ($20). The next step up now
from their free version is their SE edition ($40). If I was to
start again, free FreeFileSync would be more attractive than a $40
solution although I find FreeFileSync's UI is clumsy.
** A solution is for you to use "vssadmin create shadow" to create a
shadow copy of the source, and use that in the sync job. Most
users are not comfortable using vssadmin, or learning about
shadows. Plus, the "create" directive is not available in vssadmin
in Home editions of Windows.
https://www.2brightsparks.com/assets/pdf/SyncBackFree.pdf
"VSS is not available in SyncBackFree."
(Only in SE and Pro editions)
There are some other features missing in SyncBack Free that might be important to some users. While SB Free can sync using FTP, it doesn't support secure FTP (sFTP, FTPs). No file integrity check in free
version (to ensure what landed at the target matches the source). Lots
of features missing in the free version. See the comparison table at:
https://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/compare.html
I no longer have my comparison sheet when I first trialed both SyncBack
Free and FreeFileSync to check which features were not common in both,
or to compare SyncBack Lite (and their SE edition) with FreeFileSync.
If locked files are not an issue, like the folders/files you intend to
sync or mirror will be quiescent (not open for write access) at the time
the sync job runs, free SyncBack will suffice. Sometimes users want to include their e-mails in backups, but without VSC those files are likely locked. They may be unaware some files are locked until and unless they review the job logs.
Or use FreeFileSync, as you mention, for a freeware solution that does support VSC provided you don't need Syncback SE's other features now or
in the future.
I believe you can manually issue a command, to VSS snapshot a volume.
Then pass the identifier to the sync program.
Note: Paul cross-posted what was originally a multi-posted copy of the
OP's thread, and without notification of the change the result of which creates a floater post. I restored the Newsgroups header to just this newsgroup in my reply.
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
Note: Paul cross-posted what was originally a multi-posted copy of the
OP's thread, and without notification of the change the result of which
creates a floater post. I restored the Newsgroups header to just this
newsgroup in my reply.
AFAICT, there's no "multi-posted copy of the OP's thread", but someone posted a response to the OP in alt.comp.os.windows-11, but posted that response (only) to this group (alt.comp.os.windows-10).
Because 'someone' posted (only) in HTML, his post probably didn't make
it to many servers. So wrong group and wrong format.
The OP (bilsch01) posted to alt.comp.os.windows-11 and (AFAICT) sofar
has not posted/responded to this group (alt.comp.os.windows-10).
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
Note: Paul cross-posted what was originally a multi-posted copy of the
OP's thread, and without notification of the change the result of which
creates a floater post. I restored the Newsgroups header to just this
newsgroup in my reply.
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
Note: Paul cross-posted what was originally a multi-posted copy of the
OP's thread, and without notification of the change the result of which
creates a floater post. I restored the Newsgroups header to just this
newsgroup in my reply.
AFAICT, there's no "multi-posted copy of the OP's thread", but someone posted a response to the OP in alt.comp.os.windows-11, but posted that response (only) to this group (alt.comp.os.windows-10).
Because 'someone' posted (only) in HTML, his post probably didn't make
it to many servers. So wrong group and wrong format.
The OP (bilsch01) posted to alt.comp.os.windows-11 and (AFAICT) sofar
has not posted/responded to this group (alt.comp.os.windows-10).
Bilsch01 starter post in Windows 10 newsgroup: <--.
From: bilsch01 <usenet@writer.com> |-- mismatch
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11 <--'
Message-ID: <uu7691$fvrd$1@dont-email.me> <---------------.
|
Bilsch01 starter post in Windows 11 newsgroup: <--. |-- same
From: bilsch01 <usenet@writer.com> |-- match | MID Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11 <--' |
Message-ID: <uu7691$fvrd$1@dont-email.me> <---------------'
Why would his post show up in the Win10 newsgroup when his Newsgroups
header never included it? The client specifies the Newsgroups header to
tell the server where to point. Bilsch01 used ES, but even if ES
somehow managed to screw up its overview database, it don't see how that would propagate to my individual.net provider who maintains their own separate overview database. NNTP servers don't share overview
databases, and why the same article on different servers has different indexes on each server.
When wasbit *replied*, his Newsgroups header had just the Win10
newsgroup. Paul added both the Win10 and Win11 newsgroups in his
Newsgroups header to cross-posted between them. But from the very
start, Bilsch01 only specified the Win11 newsgroup yet I found his
thread in the Win10 newsgroup.
Confusing how bilsch01's post got into the Win10 newsgroup when his Newsgroups header specified only the Win11 newsgroup.
The Message-ID header is the same value, yet Bilsch01's post showed up
in the Win10 that he never specified in his Newsgroups header. Weird.
I can see the MID should be the same for a cross-posted article
(multiple newsgroups in the Newsgroups header), but somehow Bilsch01's article showed up in the Win10 newsgroup that was never specified in his Newsgroups header. Bisch01 didn't cross-post as there was only one
newsgroup in his Newsgroups header, so I thought he multi-posted. Then
I see his MID is the same in both newsgroups, and multi-posting would
use different MIDs.
Why would a submission that specified:
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11
show up in the:
alt.comp.os.windows-10
newsgroup? I didn't look at this anomaly until Paul changed to
specifying 2 newsgroups in his Newsgroups header. Regardless of all the replies, why would Bilsch01's starter post show up in the wrong group?
As you say, it was posted (only) to alt.comp.os.windows-11. See al.howardknight.net for confirmation:
<http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cuu7691%24fvrd%241%40dont-email.me%3E>
Don't worry about bilsch01's client, but try to find out why your
client shows it in a wrong group.
FTR, AFAICT wasbit was not the culprit who moved his response to alt.comp.os.windows-10, but 'someone' before him.
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