I have an in home lane with three computers and several cellphones. Periodically my wife will leave the upstairs computer on so that I can synchronize them.

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off. The problem is
that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one
remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down.

On my computer I would like to through the LAN, activate a program on
the remote computer that would cause it to shut down.

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On 4/1/2024 4:57 PM, knuttle wrote:

I have an in home lane with three computers and several cellphones. Periodically my wife will leave the upstairs computer on so that I can synchronize them.

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off.ÿ The problem is that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one
remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down.

On my computer I would like to through the LAN, activate a programÿ on
the remote computer that would cause it to shut down.

I have a batch file on my desktop that puts my computer to sleep. I
assume you could make a similar batch file to shut down and then run it remotely.

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 17:57:13 -0400, knuttle wrote:

I have an in home lane with three computers and several cellphones. Periodically my wife will leave the upstairs computer on so that I can synchronize them.

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off. The problem is that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one
remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down.

On my computer I would like to through the LAN, activate a program on
the remote computer that would cause it to shut down.

On your computer, in a command prompt, type
shutdown /?

Notice that the /m argument lets you specify which computer to shut
down.

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On 4/1/2024 5:57 PM, knuttle wrote:

I have an in home lane with three computers and several cellphones. Periodically my wife will leave the upstairs computer on so that I can synchronize them.

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off.ÿ The problem is that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down.

On my computer I would like to through the LAN, activate a programÿ on the remote computer that would cause it to shut down.

Set it to hibernate after 20 minutes (or whatever the
synchronization interval is, times two).

Use Wake On LAN to wake the computer remotely (on the same LAN).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN#Magic_packet

When Windows installs an Intel LAN chip, it may not include the
nice Properties page. Using the Intel driver could include that,
and that may have a Wake On LAN (not Wake On Carrier) setting
you can use. You still need a program to generate the
Wake On LAN packet for you, and send it to the
correct MAC address.

There are two options, Hybrid Sleep and Hibernate

S3 - Hybrid sleep keeps the session in RAM, but the hiberfil.sys is also loaded just in case.
This responds faster to a waking event, but wastes 4 to 8 watts of electricity.
Sleep keeps the RAM powered, off +5VSB (no fan will be running).

S4 - Hibernate keeps the session in hiberfil.sys in the root of C: .
RAM is not powered. Power loss is ~1 watt or so.

Some computers have trouble waking from S5 (soft off).

On business class machines, there is Management Engine, the NIC has
dual interfaces, one of the interfaces intercepts LAN traffic and
feeds the Management Engine processor (in the chipset). The Management
Engine runs MINUX and "there is no screen to look at". Management Engine
has the capability to restart a crashed computer, so not only can it
wake a sleeping computer remotely, it can also regain control of a crashed computer. This is used by IT departments, and normally home users
don't have the software for this. The Wake On LAN strategy,
is OK at LAN level, but can be more of a challenge when
more network component paths are involved (hard to do from Starbucks).

Paul


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knuttle,

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off. The problem is that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one
remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down

You're not really clear there.

"her computer is shut off", but than someone "goes up and shuts it down" ? Assuming its the same computer, whats the difference between "shut off" and "shut (it) down" ? OS vs power perhaps ?

Or must I/we read that "her computer" and "the computer" as two different
ones ? If so, how are both used - which one is backupped, and which one is initiating the backup. Which one shuts down automatically and which one
needs to be shut down manually ?

mind you, thats 8 possibilities, with yours just being one of them.
<whistle>

.... or is it even more complex than that ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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On 01/04/2024 22:57, knuttle wrote:

I have an in home lane with three computers and several cellphones. Periodically my wife will leave the upstairs computer on so that I can synchronize them.

Once the data is synchronized, her computer is shut off.ÿ The problem
is that we forget she left the computer on and it runs until some one remembers it is on and goes up and shuts it down.

On my computer I would like to through the LAN, activate a programÿ on
the remote computer that would cause it to shut down.

Try this:
<Shut down, sleep, or hibernate your PC - Microsoft Support <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/shut-down-sleep-or-hibernate-your-pc-2941d165-7d0a-a5e8-c5ad-8c972e8e6eff>>


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James,

Wow, overthink much? ;)

I've learned the hard way that to make assumptions based on inadequate information most often leads to a lot of confusion and wasted time on both sides.

So, I tend to ask specifics.

They sometimes forget to shut the computer off after the synchronization
and want some method to turn it off automatically or otherwise from a LAN computer.

Quite possible, and something that crossed my mind too.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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James,

They sometimes forget to shut the computer off after the
synchronization and want some method to turn it off
automatically or otherwise from a LAN computer.

Assuming the backup program can shut the 'puter down after its done a
solution could be to start the backup from the "upstairs" 'puter. It will than shut down, while the downstairs 'puter will be much more noticable that its still running, and than gets shut off.

Ofcourse, the above also assumes that the backup program can be run from the upstairs 'puter to begin with.

Than again, perhaps something as simple as an "egg timer" could be used, or perhaps just the old "knot in the hanky" solution - placing something at an out-of-place location as a reminder (mine is putting my shoes infront of the hallway door).

Over-engeneering (trying to solve a "computer problem" with a computer) is
an occupational hazard. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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On 4/3/2024 3:18 AM, R.Wieser wrote:

James,

They sometimes forget to shut the computer off after the
synchronization and want some method to turn it off
automatically or otherwise from a LAN computer.

Assuming the backup program can shut the 'puter down after its done a solution could be to start the backup from the "upstairs" 'puter. It will than shut down, while the downstairs 'puter will be much more noticable that its still running, and than gets shut off.

Ofcourse, the above also assumes that the backup program can be run from the upstairs 'puter to begin with.

Than again, perhaps something as simple as an "egg timer" could be used, or perhaps just the old "knot in the hanky" solution - placing something at an out-of-place location as a reminder (mine is putting my shoes infront of the hallway door).

Over-engeneering (trying to solve a "computer problem" with a computer) is
an occupational hazard. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Do not shut it down.
Just add a batch to shut off its monitor(s) on a time certain.

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Zaidy036,

Do not shut it down.

But that is what the OP is asking for.

Just add a batch to shut off its monitor(s) on a time certain.

Why a batch ? My 'puter puts up a screensaver after half an hour, and
blanks the screen after an hour.

But while it than /looks/ as if its off, its still runningand consuming energy. :-|

Regards,
Rudy Wieser (who still is not the, now different, OP)



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On 4/4/2024 12:48 PM, R.Wieser wrote:

Zaidy036,

Do not shut it down.

But that is what the OP is asking for.

Just add a batch to shut off its monitor(s) on a time certain.

Why a batch ? My 'puter puts up a screensaver after half an hour, and blanks the screen after an hour.

But while it than /looks/ as if its off, its still runningand consuming energy. :-|

Regards,
Rudy Wieser (who still is not the, now different, OP)

I said shut it off so no energy: NirSoft\multimonitortool-x64\MultiMonitorTool.exe TURNOFF 1 [2]

PC operates normally but low energy if nothing is idle. Also can remote
in from another PC on LAN.

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Zaidy036,

I said shut it off so no energy: NirSoft\multimonitortool-x64\MultiMonitorTool.exe TURNOFF 1 [2]

Yes, you said "shut off". Which can mean a lot of things to me, /including/ powering-down the monitor.

And I'm sorry, but as that program can also switch them back on it means
that they still use /some/ energy.

PC operates normally but low energy if nothing is idle.

I know. But, if nobody is using the 'puter its still wasted energy.

Its also exactly what my "and blanks the screen after an hour" will do automatically. With the added pre that pressing a key or using the mouse will wake the monitor.

.... none of which the OP asked for.

Also can remote in from another PC on LAN.

Did they ask for that ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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R.Wieser wrote:

Zaidy036,

Do not shut it down.

But that is what the OP is asking for.

Just add a batch to shut off its monitor(s) on a time certain.

Why a batch ? My 'puter puts up a screensaver after half an hour, and blanks the screen after an hour.

But while it than /looks/ as if its off, its still runningand consuming energy. :-|

Regards,
Rudy Wieser (who still is not the, now different, OP)

I put a schedule task in to shut the PC down completely down at 1:00 am
or what ever time I choose in the scheduled task (ie cron job in Linux)

Keeps the middle of the night hackers from getting in.

Jim

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