• Mystery service

    From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Apr 4 22:34:29 2024
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named service?

    TIA.

    --
    John C.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 5 02:17:20 2024
    John C. <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    I can't check now on a Windows 10 system, but my Windows 11 system
    has this service, with obviously a different 'number' at the end. The services.msc applet gives a bit of a description, but not very
    meaningful.

    Unless someone/something raises a red flag about it, I wouldn't worry
    about it.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved scanner

    Which scanner and which software? My 2010 EPSON PERFECTION V30 scanner survived all the way from Windows Vista, via Windows 8.1 to now Windows
    11.

    and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    Can't help with that.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named service?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Li4ud8Khw7HCp8KxwqTDsSA=?@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 5 04:33:59 2024
    John C. wrote on 4/4/24 4:34 AM:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named service?

    TIA.

    In Windows Services, there should be or normally are two 'Windows Push Notification' (aka WPN) items.
    One without a number..the high level hosting the Notification Platform,
    the other with a number suffix integrated with the platform but
    specifically for the apps and programs. The number suffix is not
    relevant to a specific item but globally applicable to all app/programs configured for notifications(tiles on the Start Menu/Start Screen,
    badges, toasts, and inclusion in Notification Center(lower right Taskbar) flyout notices.

    i.e. Address the Settings and Notifications for the apps and programs,
    you can ignore the WPN Services(with or without a number).

    --
    ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 5 13:39:38 2024
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    John C. <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    I can't check now on a Windows 10 system, but my Windows 11 system
    has this service, with obviously a different 'number' at the end. The services.msc applet gives a bit of a description, but not very
    meaningful.

    Unless someone/something raises a red flag about it, I wouldn't worry
    about it.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved
    scanner

    Which scanner and which software? My 2010 EPSON PERFECTION V30 scanner survived all the way from Windows Vista, via Windows 8.1 to now Windows
    11.

    It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which
    is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:

    https://www.hamrick.com/

    and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    Can't help with that.

    Mainly, I'd like to be able to reinstall the RealTek Audio Control
    Panel. I've heard it's possible, but kind of tricky.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named
    service?

    --
    John C.

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 5 14:55:05 2024
    John C. wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    John C. <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:

    It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which
    is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:

    https://www.hamrick.com/

    I have 3 ancient scanners that do not have drivers for W7 or W10 so I
    got Vuescan. It works great for what I do but it tries to call home
    every time I use it so I blocked it's internet attempts with my firewall.


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  • From Newyana2@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Apr 5 22:12:17 2024
    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote

    | It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which
    | is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:
    |

    Canon dropped support. That's not the fault of Windows 10.
    Your scanner seems to be 2000/XP, so it's pretty old. But
    companies vary quite a bit with support. I once had a motherboard
    that I think was MSI. When I tried to get drivers for XP they said
    it was unsupported. The chipset was Via. So I wen't to viaarena.com.
    They had drivers and their site explained that it was the same driver
    for all systems. MSI simply couldn't be bothered to support their
    customers.

    You won't be so lucky with your scanner. You'll probably just
    have to buy new. I've been setting up a new Win10 system
    recently, having been on XP now for 10+ years. My HP Envy
    5660 all-in-one was bought for XP. But I checked their site
    and they had Win10 drivers. Hopefully those will work.

    Drivers are a funny thing. I don't understand why they're so
    hard to make work in Windows, yet hardware support is nearly
    invisible in Linux. Maybe it would be worth your while to install
    a dual boot of Linux and see whether that works with your scanner.



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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 00:32:12 2024
    Newyana2 wrote:
    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote

    | It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which
    | is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:
    |

    Canon dropped support. That's not the fault of Windows 10.
    Your scanner seems to be 2000/XP, so it's pretty old. But
    companies vary quite a bit with support. I once had a motherboard
    that I think was MSI. When I tried to get drivers for XP they said
    it was unsupported. The chipset was Via. So I wen't to viaarena.com.
    They had drivers and their site explained that it was the same driver
    for all systems. MSI simply couldn't be bothered to support their
    customers.

    You won't be so lucky with your scanner. You'll probably just
    have to buy new. I've been setting up a new Win10 system
    recently, having been on XP now for 10+ years. My HP Envy
    5660 all-in-one was bought for XP. But I checked their site
    and they had Win10 drivers. Hopefully those will work.

    Drivers are a funny thing. I don't understand why they're so
    hard to make work in Windows, yet hardware support is nearly
    invisible in Linux. Maybe it would be worth your while to install
    a dual boot of Linux and see whether that works with your scanner.

    I still have two or three functional XP computers. At this point, I can
    easily set one back up and hook the scanner to it to run the scanner.

    Either that, or else I'll load another hard drive up with W7 and when I
    need to run the scanner, I'll boot from that drive instead.

    --
    John C.

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  • From Zaidy036@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 01:48:59 2024
    On 4/5/2024 9:32 AM, John C. wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote:
    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote

    | It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which
    | is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:
    |

    Canon dropped support. That's not the fault of Windows 10.
    Your scanner seems to be 2000/XP, so it's pretty old. But
    companies vary quite a bit with support. I once had a motherboard
    that I think was MSI. When I tried to get drivers for XP they said
    it was unsupported. The chipset was Via. So I wen't to viaarena.com.
    They had drivers and their site explained that it was the same driver
    for all systems. MSI simply couldn't be bothered to support their
    customers.

    You won't be so lucky with your scanner. You'll probably just
    have to buy new. I've been setting up a new Win10 system
    recently, having been on XP now for 10+ years. My HP Envy
    5660 all-in-one was bought for XP. But I checked their site
    and they had Win10 drivers. Hopefully those will work.

    Drivers are a funny thing. I don't understand why they're so
    hard to make work in Windows, yet hardware support is nearly
    invisible in Linux. Maybe it would be worth your while to install
    a dual boot of Linux and see whether that works with your scanner.

    I still have two or three functional XP computers. At this point, I can easily set one back up and hook the scanner to it to run the scanner.

    Either that, or else I'll load another hard drive up with W7 and when I
    need to run the scanner, I'll boot from that drive instead.

    If you do not scan very often use free to try VueScan and then screen
    print instead of printing/saving with VueScan.


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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 08:26:57 2024
    On 4/5/2024 1:06 PM, micky wrote:
    John C. wrote on 4/4/24 4:34 AM:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved >>> scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named >>> service?

    TIA.

    In Windows Services, there should be or normally are two 'Windows Push
    Notification' (aka WPN) items.
    One without a number..the high level hosting the Notification Platform,
    the other with a number suffix integrated with the platform but
    specifically for the apps and programs. The number suffix is not
    relevant to a specific item but globally applicable to all app/programs
    configured for notifications(tiles on the Start Menu/Start Screen,
    badges, toasts, and inclusion in Notification Center(lower right Taskbar) >> flyout notices.

    i.e. Address the Settings and Notifications for the apps and programs,
    you can ignore the WPN Services(with or without a number).

    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

    I've noticed several times that you write English very well.

    But you seem to have a foreign name. One whose style I do not
    recognize.

    Where are you from?


    You're using Forte Agent.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/uWjDfC79/unicode-how-to-full-unicode-display-in-agent-s-message-body-pane

    Paul

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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 21:37:36 2024
    Zaidy036 wrote:
    John C. wrote:
    Newyana2 wrote:
    John C. wrote

    It's a Canon Canoscan 8400F. I'm thinking about getting Vuescan, which >>>> is supposed to provide a reverse engineered driver for it:

    ÿÿÿ Canon dropped support. That's not the fault of Windows 10.
    Your scanner seems to be 2000/XP, so it's pretty old. But
    companies vary quite a bit with support. I once had a motherboard
    that I think was MSI. When I tried to get drivers for XP they said
    it was unsupported. The chipset was Via. So I wen't to viaarena.com.
    They had drivers and their site explained that it was the same driver
    for all systems. MSI simply couldn't be bothered to support their
    customers.

    ÿÿ You won't be so lucky with your scanner. You'll probably just
    have to buy new. I've been setting up a new Win10 system
    recently, having been on XP now for 10+ years. My HP Envy
    5660ÿ all-in-one was bought for XP. But I checked their site
    and they had Win10 drivers. Hopefully those will work.

    ÿÿÿ Drivers are a funny thing. I don't understand why they're so
    hard to make work in Windows, yet hardware support is nearly
    invisible in Linux. Maybe it would be worth your while to install
    a dual boot of Linux and see whether that works with your scanner.

    I still have two or three functional XP computers. At this point, I can
    easily set one back up and hook the scanner to it to run the scanner.

    Either that, or else I'll load another hard drive up with W7 and when I
    need to run the scanner, I'll boot from that drive instead.

    If you do not scan very often use free to try VueScan and then screen
    print instead of printing/saving with VueScan.

    Unfortunately, I do a lot of scanning. Screen prints usually have
    resolutions which are too low for my purposes.

    --
    John C.

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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 21:51:54 2024
    John C. wrote:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named service?

    TIA.

    On this page:

    https://superuser.com/questions/1246950/can-windows-push-notification-services-wns-be-disabled

    I saw this: "User services (those ending w/ an underscore followed by a
    hex number)"

    So apparently the service is a "user service", whatever that is. I would
    guess this means that it's a service which only applies to my user account.

    --
    John C.

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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Apr 6 22:00:06 2024
    micky wrote:
    John C. wrote on 4/4/24 4:34 AM:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using
    a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected
    with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows
    7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved >>> scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named >>> service?

    TIA.

    In Windows Services, there should be or normally are two 'Windows Push
    Notification' (aka WPN) items.
    One without a number..the high level hosting the Notification Platform,
    the other with a number suffix integrated with the platform but
    specifically for the apps and programs. The number suffix is not
    relevant to a specific item but globally applicable to all app/programs
    configured for notifications(tiles on the Start Menu/Start Screen,
    badges, toasts, and inclusion in Notification Center(lower right Taskbar) >> flyout notices.

    i.e. Address the Settings and Notifications for the apps and programs,
    you can ignore the WPN Services(with or without a number).

    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

    I've noticed several times that you write English very well.

    But you seem to have a foreign name. One whose style I do not
    recognize.

    Where are you from?

    I also noticed that "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" didn't provide an explanation of how that number on the end of the service's name got there. (S)he also
    didn't provide any explanation (if the number doesn't indicate malware)
    of the purpose of that number.

    --
    John C.

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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Apr 7 01:22:53 2024
    On 4/6/2024 7:00 AM, John C. wrote:
    micky wrote:
    John C. wrote on 4/4/24 4:34 AM:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one:

    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using >>>> a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected >>>> with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows >>>> 7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved >>>> scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system
    without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named >>>> service?

    TIA.

    In Windows Services, there should be or normally are two 'Windows Push
    Notification' (aka WPN) items.
    One without a number..the high level hosting the Notification Platform, >>> the other with a number suffix integrated with the platform but
    specifically for the apps and programs. The number suffix is not
    relevant to a specific item but globally applicable to all app/programs >>> configured for notifications(tiles on the Start Menu/Start Screen,
    badges, toasts, and inclusion in Notification Center(lower right Taskbar) >>> flyout notices.

    i.e. Address the Settings and Notifications for the apps and programs,
    you can ignore the WPN Services(with or without a number).

    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

    I've noticed several times that you write English very well.

    But you seem to have a foreign name. One whose style I do not
    recognize.

    Where are you from?

    I also noticed that "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" didn't provide an explanation of how that number on the end of the service's name got there. (S)he also
    didn't provide any explanation (if the number doesn't indicate malware)
    of the purpose of that number.

    "Per-user Services In Windows"

    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/287008-some-windows-services-have-had-odd-numbered-added-at-the-end/

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/per-user-services-in-windows

    "They run in the security context of the user account instead of a built-in security principal."

    Paul

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  • From John C.@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Apr 8 23:05:04 2024
    Paul wrote:
    On 4/6/2024 7:00 AM, John C. wrote:
    micky wrote:
    John C. wrote on 4/4/24 4:34 AM:
    While looking through my services, I found this strangely named one: >>>>>
    Windows Push Notifications User Service _53bb4

    That little "_53bb4" business at the end worries me. My system is using >>>>> a fairly fresh install of Windows 10 Pro. If I've already been infected >>>>> with some kind of malware, then I'm going to have to go back to Windows >>>>> 7 or a version of Linux.

    At this point I'm really hating Window 10, which has disabled my beloved >>>>> scanner and turned my expensive 5.1 speaker system into a 2.1 system >>>>> without any way to modify those settings.

    At any rate, does anybody know what's going on with that strangely named >>>>> service?

    TIA.

    In Windows Services, there should be or normally are two 'Windows Push >>>> Notification' (aka WPN) items.
    One without a number..the high level hosting the Notification Platform, >>>> the other with a number suffix integrated with the platform but
    specifically for the apps and programs. The number suffix is not
    relevant to a specific item but globally applicable to all app/programs >>>> configured for notifications(tiles on the Start Menu/Start Screen,
    badges, toasts, and inclusion in Notification Center(lower right Taskbar) >>>> flyout notices.

    i.e. Address the Settings and Notifications for the apps and programs, >>>> you can ignore the WPN Services(with or without a number).

    --
    ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

    I've noticed several times that you write English very well.

    But you seem to have a foreign name. One whose style I do not
    recognize.

    Where are you from?

    I also noticed that "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" didn't provide an explanation of how >> that number on the end of the service's name got there. (S)he also
    didn't provide any explanation (if the number doesn't indicate malware)
    of the purpose of that number.

    "Per-user Services In Windows"

    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/287008-some-windows-services-have-had-odd-numbered-added-at-the-end/

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/per-user-services-in-windows

    "They run in the security context of the user account instead of a built-in security principal."

    Paul

    Thanks, Paul. So according to the second link, the number legitimate and
    is called a "locally unique identifier for the user" or "LUID".

    I can now drop my concern. Thanks!

    --
    John C.

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