• Quiet in here

    From Rob Adams@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jun 1 18:39:59 2023
    Well, I must say I've been away for a while, what has happened here,
    seems so quiet..

    I notice even the house of Bob is even worse.

    Rob.

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  • From Jim@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jun 2 05:44:30 2023
    Reply-To: jhayter-usenet@insight.rr.com

    On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:09:59 +0930, Rob Adams
    <usenet+september@mmx.com.au> wrote:

    Well, I must say I've been away for a while, what has happened here,
    seems so quiet..

    I notice even the house of Bob is even worse.

    Rob.

    There are postings every once in a while that may spawn a brief
    conversation. My impression is that we are all getting older and
    retiring or the alternative. I finally retired at 70 last month.

    Jim

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jun 3 06:16:49 2023
    On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 15:44:30 -0400, Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:09:59 +0930, Rob Adams
    <usenet+september@mmx.com.au> wrote:

    Well, I must say I've been away for a while, what has happened here,
    seems so quiet..

    I notice even the house of Bob is even worse.

    Rob.

    There are postings every once in a while that may spawn a brief
    conversation. My impression is that we are all getting older and
    retiring or the alternative. I finally retired at 70 last month.

    Jim

    Hopefully not the alternative (though I lost my wife 14 months ago) -
    I retired last year and am younger than you but not much.

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  • From -dsr-@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Jun 4 08:53:57 2023
    On 2023-06-02, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 15:44:30 -0400, Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 18:09:59 +0930, Rob Adams
    <usenet+september@mmx.com.au> wrote:

    Well, I must say I've been away for a while, what has happened here, >>>seems so quiet..

    I notice even the house of Bob is even worse.


    There are postings every once in a while that may spawn a brief >>conversation. My impression is that we are all getting older and
    retiring or the alternative. I finally retired at 70 last month.


    Hopefully not the alternative (though I lost my wife 14 months ago) -
    I retired last year and am younger than you but not much.

    It will likely be twenty five years until I retire... unless someone makes
    me rich. Which seems unlikely.

    Over on the fezbook, the Monks of the Scary Devil Monastery group has many familiar nyms. Traffic every day or two.

    In the halls of IRC, ##sysadmin-community allows useful information, but is mostly relaxed social chat among more or less clueful types. Yes, two octothorpes. libera network.

    Our once frequent contributor Red Drag Diva wrote a couple of books about the evils of Bitcoin.

    I'm pretty sure the now CEO of Fastmail was seen in these parts twentyish years ago. That's not recovery, really.



    -dsr- (Dan the Incongruous)

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  • From Rob Adams@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 4 21:50:29 2023
    Reply-To: september+usenet@mmx.com.au

    On 4/06/2023 08:23, -dsr- wrote:
    Over on the fezbook, the Monks of the Scary Devil Monastery group has many familiar nyms. Traffic every day or two.

    I did submit application to join said group about a month back, but so
    far no joy, is there some application of chicken waving I need to produce?


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  • From Andrew J. Caines@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Sep 2 04:38:46 2023
    On 6/1/23 15:44, Jim wrote:
    My impression is that we are all getting older and retiring or the alternative.

    Who are you calling old? I may have titanium parts and have to wear
    glasses to see small things up close, but... oh.

    I finally retired at 70 last month.

    Congratulations. Has this helped or hindered recovery?

    --
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    "Machines take me by surprise with great frequency" - Alan Turing


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  • From Jim@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Sep 10 13:26:43 2023
    Reply-To: jhayter-usenet@insight.rr.com

    On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:38:46 -0400, "Andrew J. Caines" <A.J.Caines+Usenet@halplant.com> wrote:

    On 6/1/23 15:44, Jim wrote:
    My impression is that we are all getting older and retiring or the
    alternative.

    Who are you calling old? I may have titanium parts and have to wear
    glasses to see small things up close, but... oh.

    Myself, if no one else. I find glasses insufficient for small print at
    this point. I carry a flashlight to make it easier to read.

    I finally retired at 70 last month.

    Congratulations. Has this helped or hindered recovery?

    Given I no longer have to deal with systems used by others, it goes
    well. Of course I am still capable of screwing things up on my own and
    having to fix them.


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  • From crn@nospam.com@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Sep 10 20:23:18 2023
    Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:38:46 -0400, "Andrew J. Caines" <A.J.Caines+Usenet@halplant.com> wrote:

    On 6/1/23 15:44, Jim wrote:
    My impression is that we are all getting older and retiring or the
    alternative.

    Who are you calling old? I may have titanium parts and have to wear
    glasses to see small things up close, but... oh.

    Myself, if no one else. I find glasses insufficient for small print at
    this point. I carry a flashlight to make it easier to read.

    I finally retired at 70 last month.

    Congratulations. Has this helped or hindered recovery?

    Given I no longer have to deal with systems used by others, it goes
    well. Of course I am still capable of screwing things up on my own and having to fix them.

    At 78 I still lurk here, there is a tad more activity in the faceplant monastery.

    --
    http://www.netunix.com/


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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Sep 11 10:08:37 2023
    On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 23:26:43 -0400, Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    Given I no longer have to deal with systems used by others, it goes
    well. Of course I am still capable of screwing things up on my own and >having to fix them.

    Alas that is too true. And being one year retired one has more time
    for that sort of thing though temporarily very hard for me since I had
    eye surgery on one eye 6 weeks ago with 4 weeks to go till eye #2.
    It's as if you have a bright light constantly in one eye and not the
    other and having to sit about 1/2 the distance from the keyboard (and
    NOT wearing glasses).

    They tell me things will be beautiful once all is done but then I seem
    to recall they said the same thing 40 years ago before my
    wedding.....(I tend to say "my" wedding rather than "our" since
    regretably I buried my wife about 18 months ago)

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  • From mroberds@att.net@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 1 17:20:56 2023
    Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    I find glasses insufficient for small print at this point.

    The last time I got my eyes checked, near the end, the doctor flipped
    down another mechanism and went through another round of "better/worse?"
    When he got done, he wrote me a script for bifocals, which I have never
    had before.

    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set of single-vision glasses made. I am wearing those now, but I have to
    experiment with sliding them up and down my nose, or sometimes taking
    them off altogether, to see things.

    I carry a flashlight to make it easier to read.

    Does the extra light ever scare the goats? >_>

    Of course I am still capable of screwing things up on my own and
    having to fix them.

    AOL. My lapdog randomly decided to corrupt its HRSV partition, so I
    had to boot into Yvahk naq sfpx it.

    On my desktop, I accidentally put a space before an asterisk, so I got
    to hook up my backup drive and restore some stuff.

    Matt Roberds


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  • From Michel@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 1 20:10:45 2023
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set of single-vision glasses made.

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    If so, varifocals are a thing. Looks just like regular glasses, but
    with extra reading.

    They do make you seasick for a week or two while your brain gets used
    to them, but they work fine after that.


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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 2 07:10:19 2023
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:

    Jim <Jim@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    I find glasses insufficient for small print at this point.

    The last time I got my eyes checked, near the end, the doctor flipped
    down another mechanism and went through another round of "better/worse?"
    When he got done, he wrote me a script for bifocals, which I have never
    had before.

    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set of >single-vision glasses made. I am wearing those now, but I have to
    experiment with sliding them up and down my nose, or sometimes taking
    them off altogether, to see things.

    Reading for me is totally bonkers right now - I had cornea replacement
    surgery in one eye in July and was SUPPOSED to have the second done in
    August but the doc has twice now postponed it as he didn't feel my
    first eye had healed sufficiently. (I had hoped to be all done by my
    birthday in September but at this rate I'll be lucky to have both done
    by Christmas)

    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now! In addition my left
    eye (the one that was operated on) is seeing colors more intensely
    which makes dressing in the morning "interesting" since the blues and
    reds in particular seem more intense.

    (Me healing slower is not all that shocking since I'm both diabetic
    and 65+)

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  • From Stephen Harris@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 2 07:21:20 2023
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    eye (the one that was operated on) is seeing colors more intensely
    which makes dressing in the morning "interesting" since the blues and
    reds in particular seem more intense.

    Sysadmin black solves that problem.

    --

    rgds
    Stephen

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  • From Garrett Wollman@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 2 08:15:53 2023
    In article <utb5kidcjgspm8ae1vc62s2ovjaee7othk@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now!

    That is basically where I am at right now, no surgery required: I just
    can't seem to get a reading prescription that focuses at the same
    distance in both eyes. After decades of strong myopia, the presbyopia
    is much more difficult to deal with (reading for long periods with one
    eye closed is v. uncomfortable) than not being able to read street
    signs from a hundred yards away. I'm going to push the optometrist to
    try harder at my next exam.

    -GAWollman

    --
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  • From Satya@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Nov 3 21:59:04 2023
    On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 13:10:19 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now! In addition my left

    Don't have to. Been that way for decades. There's a difference of more than 1 unit in them.

    --
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  • From mroberds@att.net@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 15:38:45 2023
    Michel <abuse@rubberchicken.nl> wrote:
    In article <l9h91k-pimv2.ln1@rubberchicken.nocrap> you wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set
    of single-vision glasses made.

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    It's more about the visible (to others) line across the middle of the
    lens, where it switches from one prescription to the other.

    They do make you seasick for a week or two while your brain gets used
    to them, but they work fine after that.

    I did try wearing the bifocals for a while when I got them, but I
    couldn't quickly get used to the procedure of having to look through
    only half of them to be able to see. I put on the single-vision ones
    and just kept wearing them.

    Matt Roberds


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  • From mroberds@att.net@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 16:08:06 2023
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now!

    I'm not (yet?) a cyborg like you, but as far back as I can remember, my
    regular script is like that. I think it started out as maybe an 0.25 difference between left and right, and I think it's gotten bigger over
    the years.

    Matt Roberds


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  • From Steve VanDevender@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 18:46:00 2023
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:

    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now!

    Imagine? My eyes have always been like that since they figured out I
    was nearsighted when I was about 5.

    Since then, the left eye had a retinal detachment and repair which
    introduced some minor visual distortion, and the thing they warned me
    was a possibility after the repair surgery has also now happened, and
    the lens developed a cataract from all the lasering they did as part of
    the repair. So I get to have the lens replaced with an artificial lens
    in about a month. When discussing what kind of correction the
    artificial lens should have, he was somewhat dubious when I suggested
    getting it approximately back to what I had been used to in recent years
    where I used my left eye for near-to-middle distance and my right eye
    for middle-to-far distance viewing, but when I explained I was already
    well used to using the eyes differently he agreed this was probably a reasonable approach, especially since the left lens of my glasses could
    be adjusted to fine-tune its focus distance.

    --
    Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/ stevev@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu PGP keyprint 4AD7AF61F0B9DE87 522902969C0A7EE8 "bash awk grep perl sed df du, du-du du-du,
    vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!" -- the Swedish BOFH

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 19:20:06 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 04:38:45 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:

    I did try wearing the bifocals for a while when I got them, but I
    couldn't quickly get used to the procedure of having to look through
    only half of them to be able to see. I put on the single-vision ones
    and just kept wearing them.

    could be worse - I had cornea replacement surgery about 6 wks ago and
    am waiting for the other eye. In the meantime it's like you have two
    different prescriptions - a different one for each eye

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 19:20:41 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 05:08:06 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    Imagine if you will what it's like to have your two eyes with
    different "prescriptions" - that's me right now!

    I'm not (yet?) a cyborg like you, but as far back as I can remember, my >regular script is like that. I think it started out as maybe an 0.25 >difference between left and right, and I think it's gotten bigger over
    the years.

    It's a bit more than just 0.25 :)

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  • From Michel@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 8 19:18:15 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 04:38:45 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    Michel <abuse@rubberchicken.nl> wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set
    of single-vision glasses made.

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    It's more about the visible (to others) line across the middle of the
    lens, where it switches from one prescription to the other.

    Yeah that's what I meant, the visible bit.

    They do make you seasick for a week or two while your brain gets used
    to them, but they work fine after that.

    I did try wearing the bifocals for a while when I got them, but I
    couldn't quickly get used to the procedure of having to look through
    only half of them to be able to see. I put on the single-vision ones
    and just kept wearing them.

    I can see that. :)

    I think it took me three weeks to really get used to them, first week I
    was seasick and regulary had to switch to the old glasses as everything
    kept moving and drifting in and out of focus on me, second week was fine
    as long as I was moving but still seasick when things were staying in
    one place for long enough to get a proper look at them, and somewhere in
    week three it all clicked and the whole thing just went away as my brain
    had rewired itself to deal with the weird lenses.

    Now they're just glasses, and I don't even think about it.

    I need new ones though[0], wonder if I'll have to do that whole song and
    dance again...

    [0] Bit scratchy and the coating is flaking off a bit, but exactly the
    bit right in front of my eyeball. Driving me mad.

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  • From hymie!@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 9 03:54:51 2023
    In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>, who said:

    could be worse - I had cornea replacement surgery about 6 wks ago and
    am waiting for the other eye. In the meantime it's like you have two different prescriptions - a different one for each eye

    My mother does that on purpose -- she has contact lenses. Her "distance" contact is in one eye, and her "reading" contact is in the other eye.
    I don't know how long it took her to get used to it, but it works for her.

    --hymie!

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 9 04:51:17 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 09:18:15 +0100, Michel <abuse@rubberchicken.nl>
    wrote:

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    It's more about the visible (to others) line across the middle of the
    lens, where it switches from one prescription to the other.

    Yeah that's what I meant, the visible bit.

    I've worn the "progressives" for 15+ years with good effect. Of course
    my two main functions visually are reading (both paper and this) and
    driving. Pre-retirement that included serving customers (some of which
    involved keeping the software that produced their invoices)

    And of course I will never forget the day in March 2020 when we laid
    off our entire staff for 3 months (including ourselves - my brother
    and I worked without salary for 3 months just to keep the doors open.
    Which was fine for him since his wife had a $200k+ job as IT director
    for her company which largely involved keeping 2000+ remote agents
    happy, while my hearing impaired wife stayed home which was less
    strenuous after the kids left home) - now THAT was a blow but the
    alternative was closing the doors for good.

    [That's what happens to computer nerds who end up running a business
    do in times of crisis]

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 9 04:53:56 2023
    On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:54:51 GMT, hymie! <hymie@nasalinux.net> wrote:

    In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>, who said:

    could be worse - I had cornea replacement surgery about 6 wks ago and
    am waiting for the other eye. In the meantime it's like you have two
    different prescriptions - a different one for each eye

    My mother does that on purpose -- she has contact lenses. Her "distance" >contact is in one eye, and her "reading" contact is in the other eye.
    I don't know how long it took her to get used to it, but it works for her.

    I had hoped my "new eyes" would be my birthday present (late
    September) but the doc has postponed the second surgery twice saying
    the first eye hasn't yet recovered enough. Right now I'm hoping for
    Christmas) Right now I'm typing this while looking at the monitor from
    15-18" away. I've increased the font size on my reader but am
    generally doing well.

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  • From David Gersic@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Nov 14 13:40:37 2023
    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 04:38:45 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net <mroberds@att.net> wrote:
    Michel <abuse@rubberchicken.nl> wrote:
    In article <l9h91k-pimv2.ln1@rubberchicken.nocrap> you wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set
    of single-vision glasses made.

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    It's more about the visible (to others) line across the middle of the
    lens, where it switches from one prescription to the other.

    You may want to try the line-less ones. There isn't a hard transition from
    one to the other. I've had them for some time now, but don't recall any problems in getting used to them after decades of single prescription
    lenses.


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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Nov 15 06:52:41 2023
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 02:40:37 -0000 (UTC), David Gersic <usenet_spam_trap@zaccaria-pinball.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 04:38:45 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net <mroberds@att.net> wrote:
    Michel <abuse@rubberchicken.nl> wrote:
    In article <l9h91k-pimv2.ln1@rubberchicken.nocrap> you wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 06:20:56 -0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
    I bought a pair of bifocals, but because I am vain, I also had a set
    of single-vision glasses made.

    Is that about the big chunky visible reading section in bifocals?

    It's more about the visible (to others) line across the middle of the
    lens, where it switches from one prescription to the other.

    You may want to try the line-less ones. There isn't a hard transition from >one to the other. I've had them for some time now, but don't recall any >problems in getting used to them after decades of single prescription
    lenses.

    I would second that having had them for more than 10 years.

    (And hoping that would end soon since I'm 1/2-way through cornea
    replacement surgery which is primarily about eliminating threat of
    cataracts though hopefully might remove use of glasses for most but
    not all things)

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