• Re: Future's Signature

    From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jan 26 12:14:50 2024
    ElFanDeMKW <jags010811@gmail.com> wrote:

    February 22, 2024: Forum closure.

    The "forum" is not closing. This is Usenet. Usenet isn't going away.

    What is it with you people?

    Use a newsreader. Become a user on a News server. Subscribe to this
    newsgroup.

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jan 26 12:23:10 2024
    ElFanDeMKW <jags010811@gmail.com> wrote:
    February 22, 2024: Forum closure.

    WRONG!!!, as several people have already pointed out here.

    Usenet was around long before Google, and will remain around
    long after Google is bankrupt. People will continue discussing
    The Simpsons in this forum long after Google is forgotten.
    If you're not here to participate, that's your loss.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
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  • From Travoltron@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jan 27 03:35:22 2024
    On 1/25/2024 5:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    ElFanDeMKW <jags010811@gmail.com> wrote:

    February 22, 2024: Forum closure.

    The "forum" is not closing. This is Usenet. Usenet isn't going away.

    What is it with you people?

    Use a newsreader. Become a user on a News server. Subscribe to this newsgroup.

    Somebody must have written an article or something that triggered this.

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  • From Renee McNeely@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jan 27 05:43:47 2024
    On 2024-01-26 11:35 AM, Travoltron wrote:
    On 1/25/2024 5:14 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    ElFanDeMKW <jags010811@gmail.com> wrote:

    February 22, 2024: Forum closure.

    The "forum" is not closing. This is Usenet. Usenet isn't going away.

    What is it with you people?

    Use a newsreader. Become a user on a News server. Subscribe to this
    newsgroup.

    Somebody must have written an article or something that triggered this.
    Not that Google should have had to clarify this, but I can imagine a lot
    of people got the impression that Google created and controlled Usenet,
    and therefore, that Google discontinuing a service they had already
    abandoned meant game over for Usenet. For a lot of people my age (born
    in the 2000s) who are more familiar with sites like Reddit or Discord,
    the idea of Usenet being a decentralized service provided by a myriad of sources probably never even crossed their mind.

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jan 27 08:22:59 2024
    Renee McNeely <reneemcneely@outlook.com> wrote:
    Not that Google should have had to clarify this, but I can imagine a
    lot of people got the impression that Google created and controlled
    Usenet, and therefore, that Google discontinuing a service they had
    already abandoned meant game over for Usenet.

    Right. The history of the net isn't taught in school. At least it
    wasn't when I went to school. Which isn't surprising since that was
    before the net existed.

    For a lot of people my age (born in the 2000s) who are more familiar
    with sites like Reddit or Discord, the idea of Usenet being a
    decentralized service provided by a myriad of sources probably never
    even crossed their mind.

    The net, or rather the online world, started as a bunch of walled gardens.
    A user of CompuServe (founded in 1969) couldn't communicate with a user
    of Genie, AOL, Delphi, The Source, the ARPAnet, or any BBS.

    Later the ARPAnet evolved into the Internet, and at about the same
    time (early 1980s) Fidonet (a network of BBSs) and Usenet (a network
    of Unix machines at universities) were founded. Within about a decade
    Fidonet, Usenet, Tymenet, and AOL were absorbed into the Internet. It
    was a wonderful time. Anyone could talk to anyone, and there was no censorship. The Web (which is not just another name for the Internet)
    was created in 1991, and any public web page could be viewed by
    anyone. There was a problem with spam, but there were techniques
    to deal with it.

    I'm baffled that people have retreated from this, and joined a new set
    of walled gardens, called "social networks." For instance MySpace,
    AOL (again), LiveJournal (until it was taken over by Russians), Google
    Groups, Reddit, SDMB, Twitter (now "X"), YouTube, and Facebook. And
    nobody on on one social network can talk to anyone in another. And
    everyone is subjected to constant ads. And likely to be permanently
    banned for wrongthink at any time.

    Usenet isn't perfect, but it's a great improvement over its successors.

    And it's even older than The Simpsons.

    And it's still here, and is not going away. Nobody has the power to
    shut it down. New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo tried, 16 years
    ago. He failed. He later resigned in disgrace, in response to
    accusations of sex crimes.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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