• Desperately seeking WiFi frequency.

    From Peter Jason@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Aug 9 10:42:00 2022
    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.
    Is it directional? What is its frequency? And wattage? Is it on 24/7?
    Help!

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  • From Peter Jason@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 10 14:37:34 2022
    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:52:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why did you post it in aus.tv ? aus.computers added.

    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:42:00 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.

    Because that is easy to do, but there are fuck all of them left anymore.

    Too true. There used to be one close to my place, but they removed it
    for some reason. I used to get the Internet therewith, albeit slowly,
    for FREE! Now I can't because the other hotspots are too far away.
    Life is so cruel.

    Is it directional?

    Nope.

    What is its frequency?

    2.4GB

    If I want to install a dish on the roof pointed at a close-as-possible
    hotspot, can I arrange some sort of repeater & amplifier?

    And wattage?

    Is it on 24/7?

    Yep,

    Help!

    You have always been beyond any help.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 10 16:48:36 2022
    In aus.computers Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    If I want to install a dish on the roof pointed at a close-as-possible hotspot, can I arrange some sort of repeater & amplifier?

    WiFi boosters and directional aerials are commonly available. You
    could also look up "cantenna" designs for a DIY approach, and
    potentially use an old wireless router in place of the repeater
    if you run an Ethernet cable to it.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Aug 10 17:03:29 2022
    In aus.computers Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.

    Because that is easy to do, but there are fuck all of them left anymore.

    Too true. There used to be one close to my place, but they removed it
    for some reason.

    Hardly anyone uses them anymore. I often drive past one
    that is still there in a street with lots of blocks of flats that
    the dregs of society 'live' in and I have never seen anyone
    using one for more than a decade now.

    I've seen people using them pretty often lately, maybe because
    they're free now. They recently moved the one in a nearby town
    from the old site outside the former post-office and now it's
    getting far more use than I ever saw it get before.

    If only they'd install a Telstra Air hotspot on _that_ phone booth
    then I'd be able to park nearby and leave a laptop downloading
    things while I do my shopping, but no such luck.

    In another town I heard from across the road someone talking on one
    with such loud and vulgar language that they might have been
    reading out one of your posts. The old encosed ones were better in
    that way, I saw someone using one of them last week in yet another
    town.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 11 08:49:48 2022
    In aus.computers Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.

    Because that is easy to do, but there are fuck all of them left
    anymore.

    Too true. There used to be one close to my place, but they removed it >>>> for some reason.

    Hardly anyone uses them anymore. I often drive past one
    that is still there in a street with lots of blocks of flats that
    the dregs of society 'live' in and I have never seen anyone
    using one for more than a decade now.

    I've seen people using them pretty often lately,

    I haven't.

    maybe because they're free now.

    Can't see it myself given that for most free mobile calls are dirt cheap.

    And now that they are free, I can see Telstra pulling the plug on
    most of them now that they get no revenue from them anymore.

    Yeah though I'm surprised that they went to the trouble of moving
    the old one in the rearby town, which happened after they'd made
    them free of charge. They had to cut a (now very visible) track
    through the concrete to connect it up. Didn't bother filling in the
    hole where the wires came up for the old one though.

    Where are you ? Hard to believe that there are that many desperate povs there.

    Rural Victoria. The Princes Hwy goes through the town I'm talking
    about and I expect most of those phone booth users are passing
    through. Hence they didn't use it in the old location which wasn't
    near where such travellers usually stop.

    If only they'd install a Telstra Air hotspot on _that_ phone booth
    then I'd be able to park nearby and leave a laptop downloading
    things while I do my shopping, but no such luck.

    Are you that desperate a pov yourself ? Figures given you 'live' there I spose.

    No point wasting money if someone's giving you the service for
    free. I used to park near places like McDonald's (whose food I
    never touch) in bigger towns and use their free WiFi, but once more
    people started using smartphones which tap into WiFi all those free
    hotspots got overloaded and too slow/unreliable for downloading
    gigabytes of data in the hour or two that I'd be out shopping in
    the surrounding area. So I've given up on that now.

    T&C web pages where one's "acceptance" times out after so long and
    cuts off in-progress downloads also became more common with many
    of these free WiFi providers. Probably to stop people who live
    nearby using it for their home internet.

    In another town I heard from across the road someone talking onone with >> such loud and vulgar language that they might have been
    reading out one of your posts. The old encosed ones were better in
    that way, I saw someone using one of them last week in yet another
    town.

    That only happens in the absolute dregs of the country.

    Another curious user was at the other booth after it was was moved.
    There was an SUV parked right next to it, hazard lights on and
    blocking half the road next to an intersection. A woman was at the
    phone booth talking on it. After observing this, a little later I
    heard a bang which caused me to look back, where I saw the woman
    run around the car and jump in the driver's seat frantically, then
    she did a U-turn, turned on to the highway, and accelerated away at
    full throttle.

    The mind boggles.

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  • From Peter Jason@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 11 10:46:59 2022
    On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:27:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.

    Because that is easy to do, but there are fuck all of them left
    anymore.

    Too true. There used to be one close to my place, but they removed >>>>>> it for some reason.

    Hardly anyone uses them anymore. I often drive past one
    that is still there in a street with lots of blocks of flats that
    the dregs of society 'live' in and I have never seen anyone
    using one for more than a decade now.

    I've seen people using them pretty often lately,

    I haven't.

    maybe because they're free now.

    Can't see it myself given that for most free mobile calls are dirt
    cheap.

    And now that they are free, I can see Telstra pulling the plug on
    most of them now that they get no revenue from them anymore.

    Yeah though I'm surprised that they went to the trouble of moving
    the old one in the rearby town, which happened after they'd made
    them free of charge. They had to cut a (now very visible) track
    through the concrete to connect it up.

    And to power it presumably.

    Didn't bother filling in the hole where the wires came up for the old
    one though.

    Where are you ? Hard to believe that there are that many desperate povs >>> there.

    Rural Victoria. The Princes Hwy goes through the town I'm talking
    about and I expect most of those phone booth users are passing
    through. Hence they didn't use it in the old location which wasn't
    near where such travellers usually stop.

    Hard to see that a car owner wouldn't be able to afford a dirt cheap
    used mobile phone and a $10/month unlimited calls and texts plan.

    If only they'd install a Telstra Air hotspot on _that_ phone booth
    then I'd be able to park nearby and leave a laptop downloading
    things while I do my shopping, but no such luck.

    Are you that desperate a pov yourself ? Figures given you 'live' there >>> I spose.

    No point wasting money if someone's giving you the service for free.

    But the free isnt anywhere near as convenient to use.

    I can see that some might not have any viable mobile coverage at home
    but even then, your own mobile phone is still a lot easier to use than
    having to go into your tiny town that likely still has a phone box.

    I used to park near places like McDonald's (whose foodI never touch) in >> bigger towns and use their free WiFi,

    Yeah, you do see a lot of the pickers outside our
    library and one of our malls has free wifi too.

    but once more
    people started using smartphones which tap into WiFi all those free
    hotspots got overloaded and too slow/unreliable for downloading
    gigabytes of data in the hour or two that I'd be out shopping in
    the surrounding area. So I've given up on that now.

    T&C web pages where one's "acceptance" times out after so long and
    cuts off in-progress downloads also became more common with many
    of these free WiFi providers. Probably to stop people who live
    nearby using it for their home internet.

    Dunno what the story is with our library.

    In another town I heard from across the road someone talking onone
    with such loud and vulgar language that they might have been
    reading out one of your posts. The old encosed ones were better in
    that way, I saw someone using one of them last week in yet another
    town.

    That only happens in the absolute dregs of the country.

    Another curious user was at the other booth after it was was moved.
    There was an SUV parked right next to it, hazard lights on and
    blocking half the road next to an intersection. A woman was at the
    phone booth talking on it. After observing this, a little later I
    heard a bang which caused me to look back, where I saw the woman
    run around the car and jump in the driver's seat frantically, then
    she did a U-turn, turned on to the highway, and accelerated away at
    full throttle.

    The mind boggles.

    Presumably some do use the phone box in an emergency
    when they have lost their phone or dont have any credit on it.

    Yes, here you can dial 000 free from any phone box. I did just that
    once when almost tripping over some drunken derro with his head in the
    gutter. None of the surrounding onlookers had a mobile; nor did I.

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  • From Peter Jason@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Aug 11 16:25:52 2022
    On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:03:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:46:59 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 09:27:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    "Telstra Air" emanates from antennae above telephone booths.

    Because that is easy to do, but there are fuck all of them left >>>>>>>>> anymore.

    Too true. There used to be one close to my place, but they removed >>>>>>>> it for some reason.

    Hardly anyone uses them anymore. I often drive past one
    that is still there in a street with lots of blocks of flats that >>>>>>> the dregs of society 'live' in and I have never seen anyone
    using one for more than a decade now.

    I've seen people using them pretty often lately,

    I haven't.

    maybe because they're free now.

    Can't see it myself given that for most free mobile calls are dirt
    cheap.

    And now that they are free, I can see Telstra pulling the plug on
    most of them now that they get no revenue from them anymore.

    Yeah though I'm surprised that they went to the trouble of moving
    the old one in the rearby town, which happened after they'd made
    them free of charge. They had to cut a (now very visible) track
    through the concrete to connect it up.

    And to power it presumably.

    Didn't bother filling in the hole where the wires came up for the old
    one though.

    Where are you ? Hard to believe that there are that many desperate >>>>> povs
    there.

    Rural Victoria. The Princes Hwy goes through the town I'm talking
    about and I expect most of those phone booth users are passing
    through. Hence they didn't use it in the old location which wasn't
    near where such travellers usually stop.

    Hard to see that a car owner wouldn't be able to afford a dirt cheap
    used mobile phone and a $10/month unlimited calls and texts plan.

    If only they'd install a Telstra Air hotspot on _that_ phone booth >>>>>> then I'd be able to park nearby and leave a laptop downloading
    things while I do my shopping, but no such luck.

    Are you that desperate a pov yourself ? Figures given you 'live'
    there
    I spose.

    No point wasting money if someone's giving you the service for free.

    But the free isnt anywhere near as convenient to use.

    I can see that some might not have any viable mobile coverage at home
    but even then, your own mobile phone is still a lot easier to use than
    having to go into your tiny town that likely still has a phone box.

    I used to park near places like McDonald's (whose foodI never touch) >>>> in
    bigger towns and use their free WiFi,

    Yeah, you do see a lot of the pickers outside our
    library and one of our malls has free wifi too.

    but once more
    people started using smartphones which tap into WiFi all those free
    hotspots got overloaded and too slow/unreliable for downloading
    gigabytes of data in the hour or two that I'd be out shopping in
    the surrounding area. So I've given up on that now.

    T&C web pages where one's "acceptance" times out after so long and
    cuts off in-progress downloads also became more common with many
    of these free WiFi providers. Probably to stop people who live
    nearby using it for their home internet.

    Dunno what the story is with our library.

    In another town I heard from across the road someone talking onone >>>>>> with such loud and vulgar language that they might have been
    reading out one of your posts. The old encosed ones were better in >>>>>> that way, I saw someone using one of them last week in yet another >>>>>> town.

    That only happens in the absolute dregs of the country.

    Another curious user was at the other booth after it was was moved.
    There was an SUV parked right next to it, hazard lights on and
    blocking half the road next to an intersection. A woman was at the
    phone booth talking on it. After observing this, a little later I
    heard a bang which caused me to look back, where I saw the woman
    run around the car and jump in the driver's seat frantically, then
    she did a U-turn, turned on to the highway, and accelerated away at
    full throttle.

    The mind boggles.

    Presumably some do use the phone box in an emergency
    when they have lost their phone or dont have any credit on it.

    Yes, here you can dial 000 free from any phone box. I did just that
    once when almost tripping over some drunken derro with his head in the
    gutter. None of the surrounding onlookers had a mobile; nor did I.

    We had one unconcioius with blood coming out of one ear making a pool
    on the road, right in the middle of one of our higher traffic streets very >early
    in the morning, just after sunrise. Me and some others all had phones and
    the only public phone is half a km away, before the free calls. After they >got
    him to the hospital he refused to have anything to do with the cops but did >recover. Made the local non free newspaper and presumably the local TV
    amd radio news.

    I always have my phone with me when out of the house, I use it to pay for >everything now except the garage sales and it might come in handy if I
    ever fall over and break something. I walk quite a bit on very rough tracks >well out of town and could well end up dead if I couldnt walk after >falling.

    Sign of the times I fear. Just like very many bank outlets closing necessitating a drive into town to deposit after-hours cash/cheques
    into an ATM. And why don't telcos issue spare phones? These could be
    set up to toggle between one or the other.

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