Hi All,

... from my balcony:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7d5dd1529981/raw

Pure chance! I had no idea it was goning to pass by. I'd just arrived home with groceries and was opening the balcony door when I spotted what looked like a 747.

I thought, 'I'll just grab a quick photo, maybe it's it'. And it was, as I confirmed later by comparing the livery to images online.


Bye, Wilfred.

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On Wed 25-Jun-2025 8:11p, Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464.0 wrote:

Hi All,

... from my balcony:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7d5dd1529981/raw

Pure chance! I had no idea it was goning to pass by. I'd just arrived home with groceries and was opening the balcony door when I spotted what looked like a 747.

That is definately one of the SAM aircraft. It is only AF1 if the President is aboard.

Nice picture, and the 747 is definately one of the best looking aircraft in the sky.

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Hi Rug,

On 2025-06-25 15:15:10, you wrote to me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7d5dd1529981/raw

Pure chance! I had no idea it was goning to pass by. I'd just arrived home
with groceries and was opening the balcony door when I spotted what looked
like a 747.

That is definately one of the SAM aircraft. It is only AF1 if the President is
aboard.

The potus arrived in my country in that aircraft. So he probably was too when it left! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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On Thu 26-Jun-2025 9:45a, Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464.0 said to Rug Rat:

Hi Rug,

On 2025-06-25 15:15:10, you wrote to me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7d5dd1529981/raw

Pure chance! I had no idea it was goning to pass by. I'd just

arrived home

with groceries and was opening the balcony door when I spotted what looked
like a 747.

That is definately one of the SAM aircraft. It is only AF1 if the

President is

aboard.

The potus arrived in my country in that aircraft. So he probably was too when it left! ;-)

Well sir, in my defense. I did not exactly know where you were..

Coul dhave always been the decoy aircraft, the SAM's always travel in pairs AFIK

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Hi Rug,

On 2025-06-26 09:59:54, you wrote to me:

The potus arrived in my country in that aircraft. So he probably was
too when it left! ;-)

Well sir, in my defense. I did not exactly know where you were..

It's no secret and in the nodelist! ;-)

Coul dhave always been the decoy aircraft, the SAM's always travel in pairs
AFIK

I didn't hear about 2 AF[12]'s. But if it's always traveling in pairs, it could have been...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Rug!

26 Jun 25 09:59, you wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen:

On Thu 26-Jun-2025 9:45a, Wilfred Van Velzen@2:280/464.0 said to Rug
Rat:

Hi Rug,

On 2025-06-25 15:15:10, you wrote to me:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7d5dd1529981/raw

Pure chance! I had no idea it was goning to pass by. I'd

just arrived home

with groceries and was opening the balcony door when I

spotted what looked

like a 747.

That is definately one of the SAM aircraft. It is only AF1 if

the President is

aboard.

The potus arrived in my country in that aircraft. So he probably
was too when it left! ;-)

Well sir, in my defense. I did not exactly know where you were..

Coul dhave always been the decoy aircraft, the SAM's always travel in
pairs AFIK

I seem to remember that they use similar if not same systems that used by
ElAl for their fleet - anti missiles both radiation & heat & possibly others.


Vincent


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Coul dhave always been the decoy aircraft, the SAM's always travel in
pairs AFIK

Not really ... they are identical twins except for the tail number, 28000 and 29000. The otherone not carrying the President flies to an airport or military field in the vicinity and remains on stand-by with the same capabilities and catering in case the primary aircraft malfunctions. Then it is ferried.

So it's not really a decoy.

AF1 also uses military corridors and shies away from standard transponders, most of the time you cannot track it except when it enters civilian airways, for separation purposes. The decoys that indeed fly along most of the trip are large military cargo planes, usually the Boeing C17 Globemaster which will fly in front of AF1 until just before landing and then veeres away.

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