Company Policy will always get you.
Company Policy will always get you.
Even in the US this is one area where carriers are often more strict
than the feds. Part 121 mandates 8 hours from bottle to
throttle. Rules also state that crews performing safety sensitive
duties must also be free from the effects of a hangover.
US DOT regulations have a .04% BAC limmit for crew members, though
Japan (and Korea have a .03% limmit even for passenger cars.).
Any flight crew drinking during a flight and yes came across some who had small glasses of wine with a meal - wont mention the airline but based
in France.
Company Policy will always get you.
I've flown a lot of airlines.
Last time I flew Iberia I heard the "ping ping" from the cockpit and a bit later a flight attendant enters the cockpit with 4 of those tiny whiskey bottles and 2 glasses with ice.
Though, their cockpit culture and training methods (NOT STANDARDS) are still Korea's number one issue.
On Sun 31-May-2026 10:08p, Ward Dossche@2:292/854.0 said to Rug Rat:
Company Policy will always get you.
I've flown a lot of airlines.
Last time I flew Iberia I heard the "ping ping" from the cockpit
and a bit later a flight attendant enters the cockpit with 4 of
those tiny whiskey bottles and 2 glasses with ice.
Funny you should mention that. Air France policy allowed their pilots
to consume a glass of wine with their meals, it was considered part
of a propper meal.
The former Asiana Airlines (Now part of Hanjin Group <KAL>) and it subsidiaries breathalized before every flight. In fact their pilot
strike 5 or so years back was mainly to 1) Allow them to carry their
gulf clubs as baggage, and 2) Drop the requirement for alchohol
screening before each flight. If memory serves I do not think they
got either.
Though, their cockpit culture and training methods (NOT STANDARDS)
are still Korea's number one issue. They may not have the frequency
of incidents they did in the 80s and 90s, but when they have them,
they're a doozie, and the Pilot Unions, Airlines (Cheobo's), and transportation ministry will usually find a convient scapegoat to say
the pilots are not at fault.
ASIANA 214 - It was the 777 A/T system.
Jin Air 2216 - Aircraft hit a bird on approach, pilots shut down the
wrong engine and collided with wall at the end of the runway.
Korean's focus on the wall.
Though, their cockpit culture and training methods (NOT STANDARDS)
are still Korea's number one issue.
As a rule, I stay away from Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Russian
airliners ...
I've seen intoxicated Russians. The one time I let my daughter fly
Aeroflot to China was when I knew the cockpit crews of their 777s at
that time were German.
I may have told this before, but one time I was queueing for
immigration either at SEATAC or MSP and over the PA came an
announcement "Japanese translator for booth 11 (or 14)". That was
where the flight crews went through and there was the captain of a
Japan Airlines 787 waiting to be processed... his language proficiency
of English was inadequate ... So I started staying away from Japanese airlines as well.
Call me crazy? After they ridiculed the findings of thorough accident investigation teams I started to avoid Egyptian and Turkish as well.
That was after the Egyptian 767 suicide crash in the Atlantic and the Turkish 737 incident at Amsterdam when Turkey rejected pilot error
after obvious faulty radio altimeter readings and the plane stalled at
low altitude.
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