February has at least 2, sometimes 3.

Not official "holidays" that persons time off from work.
Valentine's does not count.

C'mon, February has already less days and you want to work still less? ?

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Not official "holidays" that persons time off from work.
Valentine's does not count.

C'mon, February has already less days and you want to work still less? ?

I didn't say me. I'm self-employed. I work 7 days a week,
10+hr a day.

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C'mon, February has already less days and you want to work still

less? ?

I didn't say me. I'm self-employed. I work 7 days a week,
10+hr a day.

I'm retired ... I work more than 10+ hours a day .... 8-)

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I'm retired ... I work more than 10+ hours a day .... 8-)

Define work as other than selfish motives and just collecting
$s from the government. ;)
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I'm retired ... I work more than 10+ hours a day .... 8-)

Define work as other than selfish motives and just collecting
$s from the government. ;)

Ehr ... well ... doing all the maintenance on the three apartments which I, a son and a daughter occupy, run the finances connected to these dwellings, do all the food shopping for 2 families, all the food-prep, the cooking, everything involved with doing dishes, maintenance of 3 cars (for as much as I can), laundry for 3 households, drying. folding ... I refuse to do the ironing.

I'm also the only beerdrinker in 3 households ... that's a perk.

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Hello Ward!

Define work as other than selfish motives and just collecting
$s from the government. ;)

Ehr ... well ... doing all the maintenance on the three
apartments which I, a son and a daughter occupy, run the
finances connected to these dwellings, do all the food
shopping for 2 families, all the food-prep, the cooking,
everything involved with doing dishes, maintenance of 3
cars (for as much as I can), laundry for 3 households,
drying. folding ... I refuse to do the ironing.

That's not work in the traditional sense of doing something to
earn an income! ;) What you describe above are self-generated
tasks for the self.

I'm also the only beerdrinker in 3 households ... that's a perk.

That's an unusual thing to mention on the topic of work.
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Ehr ... well ... doing all the maintenance on the three
apartments which I, a son and a daughter occupy, run the
finances connected to these dwellings, do all the food
shopping for 2 families, all the food-prep, the cooking,
everything involved with doing dishes, maintenance of 3
cars (for as much as I can), laundry for 3 households,
drying. folding ... I refuse to do the ironing.

That's not work in the traditional sense of doing something to
earn an income! ;) What you describe above are self-generated
tasks for the self.

I disagree. He does not get paid, presumably, but a lot of those tasks are tasks that have to be done so I would not call them self-generated (like,
say, hobby activities), and they can be a lot of work, both mentally and physically.

Mike


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August,

That's not work in the traditional sense of doing something to
earn an income! ;) What you describe above are self-generated
tasks for the self.

On the contrary ... domestic work has a very high contribution factor to the national economy up to the point that stay-at-home mams/dads should receive a salary just for that...

I'm also the only beerdrinker in 3 households ... that's a perk.

That's an unusual thing to mention on the topic of work.

The topic was "family day" last time I looked ...

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On the contrary ... domestic work has a very high
contribution factor to the national economy up to the
point that stay-at-home mams/dads should receive a salary
just for that...

Who is supposed to pay that salary?

I'm also the only beerdrinker in 3 households ... that's a perk.

That's an unusual thing to mention on the topic of work.

The topic was "family day" last time I looked ...

But the context was work. ;) However, I'm sure you "work"
hard to acquire those beers.
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August,

On the contrary ... domestic work has a very high
contribution factor to the national economy up to the
point that stay-at-home mams/dads should receive a salary
just for that...

Who is supposed to pay that salary?

The government, i.e. everybody via their taxes ...

Amazing, that discussion has already been had here ... my very wife was in such a program for close to 10 years where she was paid as a stay-at-home mam.

But the context was work. ;) However, I'm sure you "work"
hard to acquire those beers.

The sweat is dripping from my forehead ... what do you know about beer btw?

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Hello Ward!

Who is supposed to pay that salary?

The government, i.e. everybody via their taxes ...

Why should other independent/single working people pay for
other people's parenting choices?

Amazing, that discussion has already been had here ... my
very wife was in such a program for close to 10 years
where she was paid as a stay-at-home mam.

Your income to support her wasn't good enough?

The sweat is dripping from my forehead ... what do you
know about beer btw?

Enough to know that regular consumption is not good for the
body.

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Hi August,

Amazing, that discussion has already been had here ... my
very wife was in such a program for close to 10 years
where she was paid as a stay-at-home mam.

Your income to support her wasn't good enough?

Why do I need to support a female? Are you still at the "Daddy brings home the bacon" level? That's pre-historic.

The system is pretty straightforward. You become a stay-at-home mam (or dad, works that way too) and get paid. At the same time a person is hired with the qualifications but lacking the experience for that now temporary vacant employment. When the stay-at-home person returns to the job, the fill-in person has had the opportunity to get work-experience and stands a better chance of applying for a job ...

Some people call it a win-win ...

Enough to know that regular consumption is not good for the
body.

Canadian beer is very good at cleansing the urinary tract.

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Hello Ward!

Amazing, that discussion has already been had here ... my
very wife was in such a program for close to 10 years
where she was paid as a stay-at-home mam.

Your income to support her wasn't good enough?

Why do I need to support a female? Are you still at the
"Daddy brings home the bacon" level? That's pre-historic.

Some companies in Canada do offer a maternity leave and
compensations. The gov't does too - for up to 6 months if I
recall, or even up to a year.

Paternity leave is also now a thing.

Here in Canada there are clever persons just fine with the
gov't supporting their predicaments as unwed/single parent, no-
income, etc.

The system is pretty straightforward. [...]
[...] When the stay-at-home person returns to the
job, the fill-in person has had the opportunity to get
work-experience and stands a better chance of applying for
a job ...

Some people call it a win-win ...

Some of the new dads or mams don't even bother returning to
their previous employer, and basically run with the money.

I was asked by a previous employee to keep her on the payroll
long enough so that she could qualify for the minimum 52 weeks
of employment when I bought a business in which she was
previously employed. She got her gov't-paid maternity leave,
so did her partner, and she never returned to work (either it
was her choice or simply a logistical matter after she had
moved to be closer to her mother). It wasn't a win-win for me
at all.

Enough to know that regular consumption is not good for the
body.

Canadian beer is very good at cleansing the urinary tract.

Yeah.. perhaps that is needed to remove the sludge that your
altenative beers create.

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Hello Mike!

** On Sunday 05.03.23 - 18:32, you wrote..

I disagree. He does not get paid, presumably, but a lot
of those tasks are tasks that have to be done so I would
not call them self-generated (like, say, hobby
activities), and they can be a lot of work, both mentally
and physically.

But aren't the son/daughter aforemetioned already adults?

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Why do I need to support a female? Are you still at the
"Daddy brings home the bacon" level? That's pre-historic.

Some companies in Canada do offer a maternity leave and

>compensations. The gov't does too - for up to 6 months if I
>recall, or even up to a year.

Paternity leave is also now a thing.

Yes, that is a year now which can be taken by either parent or split
up between them, they don't get a year each.

Some of the new dads or mams don't even bother returning to

>their previous employer, and basically run with the money.

The problem there are the maximums that Maternity leave pays which
is often far below what the person would earn working. It is a
percentage of your pay (I believe 55%) and there's an upper limit
($650 a week) which would really hurt highly paid people.

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