Try that with "Thick as a brick". Or John Lord's "Gemini
Suite", I bought thatone just for the cover.

Do not know Tull's LP, but the wiki on it sounds interesting.
Don't know the Jon Lord recording/package.

The "Thick as a brick" folds out as a complete newspaper and is worth a read in itself. I played it for my mam because she wanted to hear it and declared me nuts.

There's the Tull-version of course, and Ian Anderson still performs this, but here's a cover version by kids 2 generations down the line who picked it up and played it live as a kind of school assignment ... I love it ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V46DQzKzh7Y

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Hello Rob!

** On Thursday 02.03.23 - 02:38, you wrote to me:

I have a PVR with my satellite TV system that has a 1 TB
hard drive [...]

[...] The unit will accept an external hard drive attached to it
but I'm not sure how it decides what goes where. I'd have to look at
the settings.

My understanding is that the material recorded onto the
external drive is encrypted and would only be accessible from
another Bell branded PVR (if the encryption and format remain
the same between PVRs)

They recently updated their PVR's and told us to just
dispose of the old one, which has a lot of stuff on it but
only had about a 320 gig drive. It's not really stuff I
was keeping other than to finally find time to watch it
once.

A friend of mine who divides his time between two locations in
Ontario recently had a similar situation where a new PVR was
delivered at no charge (without asking) and the instructions
were to send back the old one "for proper disposal". He has
had two other recievers go thru that same process - but he
decided to keep the old units over time.

One salient difference he noted between the one he was
currently using and the one they sent in as a replacement/
upgrade, was that the new one does NOT support PIP (picture-in-
picture) which he had grown fond of using.

[...] the unit Only works with that one company so it
becomes just an external drive after that. Hmm.. that
said, the drive in it is a standard computer type hard
drive so you could open the thing up and pull it to use in
whatever you wanted if the video is stored in a standard
format..

Hmmm is right. I wonder if the HDD could be salvaged to
operate independently.

There seems to be some YT vids that explain the process to
salvage. (I avoid YT vids because most of the explanations
take up way too much data to show a single step!) I try to
look for the textual answers. One of those suggested that the
internal drives from Shaw cable PVRs are linux partitions.

I've been with Shaw Digital (Org. StarChoice) for something like
25 years so the problem has never come up before.

There you go. You can pull the HDD out and have a fine external
drive for other storage needs. You might even be able to
access the existing media directly.

My Stereo is fairly old, so getting digital music into it
is difficult unless I do it through the aforementioned CD/
DVD player which is directly wired into it.

It doesn't have an AUX/IN ?

[...] What I could do is burn a music DVD and I can run
the DVD player through the Stereo. I've done that before,
just not used it often.

Hmmm.. I've never tried putting music files on DVD and playing
that. My TV supports SD card media, but then it has to be
photos only. However, an external USB with .mp3 or .wma are
supported.

Unlike your situation, my old stereo only has a CD changer
connected to it. The CD player supports CD-R/CD+R but not CD-
RW. :(

My system was worth close to $2000 about 40 years ago, so
you can probably triple that for today. It is still
working well, mostly because I don't abuse it at high
volume or use it a whole lot really.

I've owned three units over 40yrs of my time. The latest has
developed a slight static noise when the volume control motor
is adjusted with its remote.

My fine speakers developed the infamous foam rot [...]

I think mine are still okay. I haven't looked at them too
closely in a while. Last time I ran it they sounded fine.
It has about 12" woofers and a mid range and a tweeter in
each cabinet about 30" high.

One day, (after NOT playing the stereo for about a year), I
noticed that the bass was next to non-existent and there was an
odd mehanical noise in the speaker where there ought to have
been good bass response. Peeling off the grill, shock and
horror met my eyes when I saw that the rims of the woofers had
simply detached.

would argue the sound quality is not as good but I'm not
such a music nut and I prefer to wear out a tape rather
than the record. You can always make more tapes or disks
with the right hardware.

Nut a real audio nut here either, but I always dreamed of
having a more advanced set up with a Klipsch pair and dedicated
amp (not just a commercial receiver).

MEANWHILE, I inherited a pair of studio monitors and a matching
subwoofer that ought to be awesome.

Record deal - Was approached to do a record with my own
music [...]

That was a LONG time ago. Likely it was under his own label that
no one would remember today. My music was mostly Folk, anti war stuff

Sort of Ironic stuff..

If the voice and instrumentation is good, that can bring new
life and an appreciative audience to a cover song.

First few lines..
It's been a while now, still I get lonely
And the nights go on and on.
And now and then I think about you girl.
I'd like to send you a pretty flower
For each time I've thought of you
But there aren't that many Roses in the world..

It was supposed to be a joke song mocking the really old '4 chord'
stuff, but most people into country music really liked it.
There's probably a message in there somewhere.. B)

Sometimes the simplest songs do the best.

BTW.. did you know there is a Fido sysop in our midst who is a
successful recording artist? Look up Shooter Jennings.
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[...] The unit will accept an external hard drive attached to it
but I'm not sure how it decides what goes where. I'd have to look at
the settings.

My understanding is that the material recorded onto the

>external drive is encrypted and would only be accessible from
>another Bell branded PVR (if the encryption and format remain
>the same between PVRs)

That could well be to save people easily 'sharing' TV shows with others
who don't pay for the service.

One salient difference he noted between the one he was

>currently using and the one they sent in as a replacement/
>upgrade, was that the new one does NOT support PIP (picture-in-
>picture) which he had grown fond of using.

My TV set is too old to support that sort of thing. I could easily
afford a newer one but haven't been bothered enough to do so up to
this point. Mine is an old tube type 29" Toshiba, a nice unit at the
time of purchase but ancient by today's standards. My living room is
small so a bigger unit isn't really required, although things like
sub titles when characters are mixing langages in TV shows are getting
so small they are near impossible to read..

[...] the unit Only works with that one company so it
becomes just an external drive after that. Hmm.. that
said, the drive in it is a standard computer type hard
drive so you could open the thing up and pull it to use in
whatever you wanted if the video is stored in a standard
format..

Hmmm is right. I wonder if the HDD could be salvaged to

>operate independently.

I think it would only be a problem if you were trying to save things
from the original PVR. Almost for sure you could reformat the drive
to use in/for something else.

My Stereo is fairly old, so getting digital music into it
is difficult unless I do it through the aforementioned CD/
DVD player which is directly wired into it.

It doesn't have an AUX/IN ?

Not for a flash drive or other digital storage device. It has several
AUX/IN lines but they use 2 wire RCA jacks since it's for sound only.

[...] What I could do is burn a music DVD and I can run
the DVD player through the Stereo. I've done that before,
just not used it often.

Hmmm.. I've never tried putting music files on DVD and playing

>that. My TV supports SD card media, but then it has to be
>photos only. However, an external USB with .mp3 or .wma are
>supported.

My VCR/DVD unit uses the TV to show menus and it supports all sorts
of formats. The nice thing about using a DVD for music is you can
have hundreds of MP3 pieces on a single disk.

Not a real audio nut here either, but I always dreamed of

>having a more advanced set up with a Klipsch pair and dedicated
>amp (not just a commercial receiver).

That friend of mine with over 1500 classical music CD's was one to
buy amplifiers worth more than most pay for a full stereo. His system
was probably worth close to $15,000. My stereo was a cheap unit compared
to his but I do have a dedicated amp so you have to have separate units
for playing Cassettes and Records and even a Tuner for Radio use.

But I think most of my more serious dedication to music got pushed
aside when I discovered computers back around 1982.. B)

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I have 25K+ MP3s, mostly in discography downloaded sets
for artists I already have represented in physical media.

I've purchased far more CDs thatn I've purchased MP3 downloads.
The record clubs such as Columbia House made it easy and
somewhat inexpensive.

I never said I purchased MP3 downloads (I have, but very few compared to the 25K+ I have!)

Yes.. the album art and contents (foldouts, inserts, etc) added
to a great listening experience.

I needed the printed lyrics, as my brain could not differentiate combined sounds like words & music. . .

They try with CD covers, but there's so much less space to
work with. . .

The "booklet" form isn't bad. But the print can be too small.

Oh, don't get me started on small print. . . I can finally hear normally, probably better than ever, with a set of hearing aids recently gained.

Some CD covers would "fold out" to a larger size, but it tended
to get annoying to get them back in place.

Like the old folded provincial maps?

Now people have a GPS nearly-3D display of the current road & the nearest connecting roads right in front of them, nearly (at about 2:30 beside the steering wheel.)

I remember when user-posted lyrics were FORBIDDEN on the
internet. Now, there is no shortage of sites offering the full
lyrics. And those sites even request user input for songs with
missing lyrics.

Some places still have the ban--my fave site used to, & explained they had a contract with an information & streaming music video provider that required it I guess they've changed contracts somewhere, as they have a LOT of lyrics now; not an d, as I have no skin in their game: www.songfacts.com -- lots of good info on thousands of songs & artists, mostly

20th & 21st century hits. . .

I can't remember the last *NEW* LP I purchased. I gradually
continued to acquire some used LPs from thrift shops from time
to time.

Same -- can't beat $2 for a CD or $1 for an LP.

I haven't heard too many stories like that. But I have heard
of artists losing the rights to their own material due to some
small print in their contracts.

Or how Michael Jackson had to pay Paul McCartney to use his own(MJ's) music in a concert special. I don't feel bad -- Mikey had plenty of dough. . . As does Paul, no doubt! (not enough to marry a TWO legged model, though, it would seem)

Sorry; I'm ashamed to know even that much about an entertainer's personal life. .

I define the entertainer class as: singers, models, actors, athletes, news anchors, & politicians.

I like most music, some TV shows, a rare few older movies, but I'm not into being fanatic("a fan") of the players -- I might note seeing the same face or voice a few times in material I like, like how I love pretty much every tv series that Chuck Lorre has produced, & would be happy only watching reruns of his shows over new series by others. . but I'm not gaga for him -- I know nothing about him except he's kind of quirky (his end note cards at the end of nearly every episode are my clue to this -- & quirky is good -- I guess I like quirky characters who interact realistically & naturally & whose micro- expressions match the scenes.

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Hello George Pope!

** On Sunday 30.04.23 - 15:57, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

I never said I purchased MP3 downloads (I have, but very
few compared to the 25K+ I have!)

The odd purchase, either from iTunes or other, were worth it at
the time.

One of my earliest points of access to good quality mp3's was
something called FrogMusic (or something like that). HDTracks
and Magnatune were others of my choice. But Puretracks (a
Canadian operation from 2003-2017) was ultimately my favourite
in that they offered DRM-free versions and files at much higher
bit-rate than iTunes offered at that time. CD Baby was another
goto for me.

I didn't realize that Napster is back, albiet a pay system.

Yes.. the album art and contents (foldouts, inserts, etc)
added to a great listening experience.

I needed the printed lyrics, as my brain could not
differentiate combined sounds like words & music. . .

I'm sure that the lack of printed lyrics were the source of
many mis-heard lyrics. If I'm really curious, Spotify's lyric
stream that displays in sync with a tune can be a demystifying
saviour.

www.songfacts.com -- lots of good info on thousands of songs & artists, mostly

I remember visiting that place years ago. Good to see that they
are still providing info today. It's a pretty good resource.

I can't remember the last *NEW* LP I purchased. I gradually
continued to acquire some used LPs from thrift shops from
time to time.

Same -- can't beat $2 for a CD or $1 for an LP.

I've taken very good care of my 1100+ LPs. I hope to put them
out for resale soon, but they will be priced much higher than
$2, that's for sure! :D

I like most music, some TV shows, a rare few older movies,
but I'm not into being fanatic("a fan") of the players --
I might note seeing the same face or voice a few times in
material I like, like how I love pretty much every tv
series that Chuck Lorre has produced, & would be happy
only watching reruns of his shows over new series by
others. . but I'm not gaga for him -- I know nothing
about him except he's kind of quirky (his end note cards
at the end of nearly every episode are my clue to this --
& quirky is good -- I guess I like quirky characters who
interact realistically & naturally & whose micro-
expressions match the scenes.

I looked at Chuck Lorre's portfolio. I think I've ever seen 4
or 5 of his creations. I don't remember seeing any end cards.
Mayby it was the way the broadcaster cut off the show (or make
it an inset size) so that they could inject a commercial or an
announcement.

Anyway.. no streaming or OTA tv for me anymore. I'm fine with
what I can find on physical media or captured online and then
put onto file format and watched later.

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Hi August,

On 2023-05-01 08:05:00, you wrote to George Pope:

I looked at Chuck Lorre's portfolio. I think I've ever seen 4
or 5 of his creations. I don't remember seeing any end cards.

You can read them all here: http://chucklorre.com/?e=1464
;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

I looked at Chuck Lorre's portfolio. I think I've ever
seen 4 or 5 of his creations. I don't remember seeing
any end cards.

You can read them all here: http://chucklorre.com/?e=1464
;-)

Yes.. I eventually found a few samples before.

I like #724

I sampled a few more at the site. The > buttons don't produce
then in order. Instead, they seem to randomize and I see
previous ones. Anyway.. I got the gist. Lorre proves himself
to be a gifted comic muse.

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It is opening up trade across Canada though. They are working at
getting rid of the trade barriers between provinces so we can
more easily buy Canadian made than American made. They figure
that will boost our sales in Canada by about $200 Billion.

Oh, and they are working on a pipeline, East to West here. We talked
about refineries the other day and apparently we do have refineries
here, but they are all to the East and the bulk of our oil to the
West and it was easier to pipe it to the USA than Truck it across
Canada, which now may change if this goes through.

That is all good news for Canada in the long run. IIRC, that was my understanding about the refineries, too... that they were mostly in the
east.

Mike


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