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The best vinyl record stores in Toronto are where audiophiles
go to get their fix. Some consider vinyl the ultimate recording
material, but many of these stores have music in other formats
and lots of great music merch to geek out on too.

Here are the best vinyl record stores in Toronto.

1
Sonic Boom

This multi-level store in Chinatown is Canada's largest
independent record shop and sells more than just records. It
stocks the newest and best in music, films, and used titles and
is a popular destination for turntables, speakers, band t-
shirts, knickknacks, and home goods. To top it all off, Sonic
Boom regularly hosts in-store performances and record signings
with artists like Mac Demarco, Broken Social Scene, and Sloan.

2
Rotate This

The independent Ossington store is one of Toronto's most
revered record shops. Their mission is to sell as many new
vinyl releases from independent bands and artists around the
world as possible. Rotate This stocks a highly-coveted
collection of used vinyl as well, but the turnover is fast, so
you'll never see too many in-store at a time.

3
Play De Record

Toronto DJs will find everything they need at this Chinatown
record store. In fact, in the 90s it was known to supply
records to the city's radio DJs. After thirty years of
business, the shop continues to offer an impressive range of
rare discographies, new arrivals, and international records.
Play De Record also sells DJ equipment for all skill levels and
staff can help guide your purchases if you're just getting
started.

4
Dead Dog Records

Now with locations in Bloordale, Queen West, and the Village,
this well-known record shop is a newer installment in the
city.Founded in 2015 by ex-employees of the formerly-defunct
Sunrise Records, the well-organized inventory here features a
mix of current and old vinyl, CDs, and DVDs (new and used),
along with fun merchandise like t-shirts, toys, and turntables.

5
Kops Records Danforth

There are two locations of this warehouse-esque record store,
on Queen West, and the Danforth. The store, opened in the 70s,
is named after owner Martin Koppel, who had a personal record
collection that grew so big, he had no choice but to open a
shop. At Kops, you'll find a wide variety of old and new vinyl
with lots of rarities like first pressings and recordings of
iconic speeches.

6
Pop Music

This East Chinatown vinyl shop doesn't sell used records.
Instead, Pop Music prides itself on its massive collection of
mainstream commercial albums, making it easy for fans to find
the music they're looking for. Sift through the biggest hits of
all time, and don't forget to browse the merch section for band
tees and accessories, like hats and keychains.

7
Cosmos Records

A relic from the late 90s, Cosmos is known for its collection
of rare and collectible vinyl, particularly in the genres of
soul, vintage rock, hip hop, funk and disco. The curatorial
vision of the flagship (located on Queen West) is to resurface
relevant music that has fallen through the cracks.

8
Grasshopper Records

The notorious Dundas West spot is the only record shop in
Toronto open late (until nearly 1 a.m. every night). It's named
for the band/alias of the shop's eccentric owner, a local
legend in Toronto's music scene. He exclusively stocks used
vinyl records and generously shares his personal taste, so you
can trust you're getting the best referrals.

9
Tonality Records

This specialty vinyl shop on Dundas West near Roncesvalles is a
haven for music geeks. The shop curates records by indie label
rather than by artist or genre, allowing customers to find
bands by association - a great way to discover music they
wouldn't otherwise be exposed to. As if that weren't exciting
enough, the shop also sells a range of vintage radios,
turntables, receivers, amplifiers, and tuners.

[ gleened from: https://www.blogto.com/toronto/the_best_vinyl_record_stores_in_toronto/ ]

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On 14 Jul 23 20:25:00, August Abolins said the following to All:

Here are the best vinyl record stores in Toronto.

Bah. Best one is the little hippie record store ran at the Dixie Outlet Mall.

Crates and crates of pure vinyl bliss.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

Bah. Best one is the little hippie record store ran at the Dixie Outlet Mall.

Crates and crates of pure vinyl bliss.

What is the range in prices for them?

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On 15 Jul 23 07:45:00, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

Bah. Best one is the little hippie record store ran at the Dixie Outle Mall.

Crates and crates of pure vinyl bliss.

What is the range in prices for them?

Depends what you're after. A couple bucks usually. All NM/VG++ condition.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

Bah. Best one is the little hippie record store ran at the Dixie
Outle Mall.

Crates and crates of pure vinyl bliss.

What is the range in prices for them?

Depends what you're after. A couple bucks usually. All NM/VG++ condition.

NM/VG++ is excellent. I'd love to check them out someday. I
hope they don't move out of the city due to the change in
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NM/VG++ is excellent. I'd love to check them out someday. I
hope they don't move out of the city due to the change in
political climate. :D

You do not have any idea about the warehouse full of vinyl that Nick has.

I'd doubt he has listened to them all.

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On 15 Jul 23 19:10:00, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

NM/VG++ is excellent. I'd love to check them out someday. I
hope they don't move out of the city due to the change in
political climate. :D

Depends if mayor Crombie runs for the liberal party because "she can".

The store is in Mississauga.

Nick

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On 16 Jul 23 09:38:20, Ward Dossche said the following to August Abolins:

You do not have any idea about the warehouse full of vinyl that Nick has.

I'd doubt he has listened to them all.

About only half of it...

Nick

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You do not have any idea about the warehouse full of vinyl that Nick

has.

I'd doubt he has listened to them all.

About only half of it...

Did you also, like me, buy vinyl because it had such a nice jacket?

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On 16 Jul 23 23:28:17, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

About only half of it...

Did you also, like me, buy vinyl because it had such a nice jacket?

Absolutely, starting with Herb Albert's "Whipped cream and other delights".

The chick on the cover of that album... ohhhhhhhhh man

Nick

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Did you also, like me, buy vinyl because it had such a nice jacket?

Absolutely, starting with Herb Albert's "Whipped cream and other
delights".

The chick on the cover of that album... ohhhhhhhhh man

'Gemeni Suite' by John Lord ... 'Tarkus' ... 'Atom Heart Mother' ... 'Thick as a brick' ... still listen to them as well.

Such album art is not produced anymore.

When I saw a photo of '4 Way Street' ... I figured to gotta have it.

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On 17 Jul 23 08:14:42, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

Such album art is not produced anymore.

It seemed to be the case when CD's came about... everyone became happy with
a piece of paper in a plastic case and big iconic album covers fizzed out.

Then CD's eventually became obsolete by means of Itunes etc.

They have no concept of open-reel recordings or tape trading at school because one was too poor to afford a massive album collection... Recording from late night FM radio to hear "whats new"... always making sure to use a good Hifi tape deck with three heads and Maxell, TDK, Denon chrome tapes etc.

I tried to teach Selina the art of home recording. She thought I was insane.

She just goes on Youtube or Spotify and finds any song imaginable in seconds.

Nick

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They have no concept of open-reel recordings or tape trading at school because one was too poor to afford a massive album collection...
Recording from late night FM radio to hear "whats new"... always making sure to use a good Hifi tape deck with three heads and Maxell, TDK, Denon chrome tapes etc.

Exactly ... we early had good stereo radio via the cable-TV network, I listened to AFN (Armed Forces Network) and they featured Wolfman Jack. It would be a while before "American Graffiti" introduced him to mainstream Europe. I'm guessing that was before you were born .. ? .. You missed-out on a lot of the good stuff..

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On 17 Jul 23 20:52:24, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

Exactly ... we early had good stereo radio via the cable-TV network, I listened to AFN (Armed Forces Network) and they featured Wolfman Jack. It would be a while before "American Graffiti" introduced him to mainstream Europe. I'm guessing that was before you were born .. ? .. You missed-out o lot of the good stuff..

I'm familiar with Wolfman Jack, yes that was before I was born.

My introduction to "good stuff" as a kid was in the form of badly scratched and abused K-Tel albums. I think in Europe they were known as Ronco albums?

These were bargain-basement advertised-on-TV collections of 50s/60s/70's music usually 3 minute snippets, many songs crammed onto one side of bad quality vinyl. I had also inherited a few shoeboxes of badly abused 45's from an uncle who was killed in a grain elevator farming accident in the 70's.

But to a young boy who could not afford a massive record collection those cheap throwaway vinyls were a real treasure of music, which I then began to dig deeper into the artists, albums those songs were from. Discovering more treasure from there... and working my first part time jobs to be able to afford a very decent Hifi setup. And the 20 megabyte Tandy hard-drive...

Nick

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Absolutely, starting with Herb Albert's "Whipped cream and other delights".

The chick on the cover of that album... ohhhhhhhhh man

I have that one, but I also like his music. :) He has a few other albums
with nice looking ladies on them. One looks like a former co-worker, which is maybe why it first caught my eye.

But yeah that one... ohhhhhh man. :)

Mike

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'Atom Heart Mother'

I have read retro-reviews where people trash that one, but it has some real hidden gems on it that never get any airplay. "Fat Old Sun," "If," and of course "Summer '68."

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On 17 Jul 23 15:19:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

I have that one, but I also like his music. :) He has a few other albums with nice looking ladies on them. One looks like a former co-worker, which maybe why it first caught my eye.

But yeah that one... ohhhhhh man. :)

Thats okay, I was good friends with a woman who looked EXACTLY like the sexy fox on the cover of the Car's Candy-o album.

Nick

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Absolutely, starting with Herb Albert's "Whipped cream and other

delights".

The chick on the cover of that album... ohhhhhhhhh man

...

But yeah that one... ohhhhhh man. :)

OK ... Googled it ... nice

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But yeah that one... ohhhhhh man. :)

Thats okay, I was good friends with a woman who looked EXACTLY like the sexy fox on the cover of the Car's Candy-o album.

<Whistles> I had a friend or two in high school who would have been even
more impressed about that than I am. I liked the Cars a lot, but they
really dug them.

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On 18 Jul 23 17:00:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

Thats okay, I was good friends with a woman who looked EXACTLY like the sexy fox on the cover of the Car's Candy-o album.

<Whistles> I had a friend or two in high school who would have been even more impressed about that than I am. I liked the Cars a lot, but they really dug them.

I listen to all kinds of music... classic rock being the favorite...

Nick

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Thats okay, I was good friends with a woman who looked EXACTLY like the

exy

fox on the cover of the Car's Candy-o album.

<Whistles> I had a friend or two in high school who would have been

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more impressed about that than I am. I liked the Cars a lot, but they really dug them.

I listen to all kinds of music... classic rock being the favorite...

Same and same. I have plenty of classic rock in my collection, as well as
some classical, jazz, big band, blues, country, Canadian hard-core rap (!!!), crooners like Sinatra and Martin, and the aforementioned Herb Alpert.

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On 19 Jul 23 17:15:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

Same and same. I have plenty of classic rock in my collection, as well as some classical, jazz, big band, blues, country, Canadian hard-core rap (!!! crooners like Sinatra and Martin, and the aforementioned Herb Alpert.

Ha! Canadian hardcore rap? I'm afraid I haven't kept up with that genre.

I'm a huge fan of the "Bluesville" channel on Sirius XM...

Nick

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I listen to all kinds of music... classic rock being the favorite...

I listen a lot to an ambulance siren ...

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On 20 Jul 23 09:50:44, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

I listen to all kinds of music... classic rock being the favorite...

I listen a lot to an ambulance siren ...

More uplifting than the toilet flushing?

Nick

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I listen a lot to an ambulance siren ...

More uplifting than the toilet flushing?

You've never been married so you wouldn't know about the ambulance siren.

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Ha! Canadian hardcore rap? I'm afraid I haven't kept up with that genre.

Look up Red Ants "Dirty Space Alchemy" on YT. ;) I would also recommend "Insomnia."

I'm a huge fan of the "Bluesville" channel on Sirius XM...

I don't think they had that channel the last time I had Sirius XM, which is
too bad because it sounds like one I would enjoy. I found myself listening to 40's Junction a lot. :O

Mike

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Hello Nick!

** On Monday 17.07.23 - 13:06, Nick Andre wrote to Ward Dossche:

Recording from late night FM radio to hear "whats new"...
always making sure to use a good Hifi tape deck with three
heads and Maxell, TDK, Denon chrome tapes etc.

Yep.. did that too, from radio, with the record button at the
ready.

I tried to teach Selina the art of home recording. She thought I was insane.

She just goes on Youtube or Spotify and finds any song imaginable in seconds.

I enjoy using Spotify to [1] discover new music, [2] seek out
cover versions of a song by other artists.

But what Spotify lacks is learning the particulars of a
recording: who produced it, the list of musicians, where it was
recorded, etc. All that info was offered on most LP jackets,
and even CDs. Without that info, a significant aspect of music
appreciation, musicianship and tehnical background is lost and
Spotify remains just a pool of "sounds".












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Recording from late night FM radio to hear "whats new"...
always making sure to use a good Hifi tape deck with three
heads and Maxell, TDK, Denon chrome tapes etc.

Yep.. did that too, from radio, with the record button at the
ready.

Today's youth lack a lot ...

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Today's youth lack a lot ...

Indeed. If it isn't on their smart phone, it isn't.

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Yep.. did that too, from radio, with the record button at the
ready.

Today's youth lack a lot ...

"There has never been an age that did not applaud the past and
lament the present".. Lillian Eichler Watson

That was probably written about 75 years ago.. B)
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Today's youth lack a lot ...

"There has never been an age that did not applaud the past and
lament the present".. Lillian Eichler Watson

That was probably written about 75 years ago.. B)

You think that also was true around 1360 when the 2nd bubonic plague in Europe was over after having caused the death of 1/3 of the population?

But in general a true statement ... I think ... though I still fondly remember the days way back when I spent my vacations in the countryside at my grandma's house. Water from a well, cooking on a wood stove, no TV, no telephone, getting milk from the farmer down the street straight from the cow, early morning radio listening to messages for colombophiles as that would be the indication for the weather, watching the altitude at which the swallows flew to determine if rain was on its way ... the simple uncomplicated life. If you were not selected in a team during a game ... live with it ... if the coffee was too hot, blow to cool it, going fishing with just a line, a stick and a worm, no hook ... fish were so gullible they'd choke on it.

Now there's an app for everything.

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But in general a true statement ... I think ... though I still fondly

emember

he days way back when I spent my vacations in the countryside at my grandma's use. Water from a well, cooking on a wood stove, no TV, no telephone, getting lk from the farmer down the street straight from the cow, early morning radio stening to messages for colombophiles as that would be the indication for the ather, watching the altitude at which the swallows flew to determine if rain

on its way ... the simple uncomplicated life.

I was not fortunate enough to experience all of that, one set of
grandparents did have a well for water and grew their own veg. My other grandmother had a wood stove for heat and no TV. She'd make dried apple
pies from the apples that grew just behind the house. She also had what
she called a "curiousity room" that contained old photo albums and several
old books that we could pass the time reading.

Mike


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"There has never been an age that did not applaud the past and
lament the present".. Lillian Eichler Watson

That was probably written about 75 years ago.. B)

You think that also was true around 1360 when the 2nd bubonic plague in Europ

>as over after having caused the death of 1/3 of the population?

But in general a true statement ... I think ... though I still fondly remembe

>he days way back when I spent my vacations in the countryside at my grandma's
>use. Water from a well, cooking on a wood stove, no TV, no telephone, getting
>lk from the farmer down the street straight from the cow, early morning radio
>stening to messages for colombophiles as that would be the indication for the
>ather, watching the altitude at which the swallows flew to determine if rain
> on its way ... the simple uncomplicated life. If you were not selected in a
>m during a game ... live with it ... if the coffee was too hot, blow to cool
> going fishing with just a line, a stick and a worm, no hook ... fish were so
>llible they'd choke on it.

Now there's an app for everything.

A lot of quoting left there but much of it is important. Getting into 'Old
Man' mode, saying things I used to curse old people for and swore I'd never
do, it's hard to watch what a lot of young people do these days without comment, if silently in your head.. Funny, I remember as a pre-teen taking on cutting about an acre of grass with a gas/push lawn mower for 75 cents and I know people now who are willing to pay $50 an hour for lawn mowing and
can't find a school kid willing to do it. I know inflation has gone up
a lot since I did it, say 1966/67, but not That much..
Summers spent working in farmer's fields to make a few dollars.
After age 16 working 35 hours a week after school at a grocery store
stocking shelves and such. I started that job at 80 cents an hour..

Grumble.. grumble.. worked to pay my way through college and did apprentice work to get other chemical degrees and I see kids today with their education all paid for by their parents complaining about how bad they have it because they aren't also given a new car, $150 sneakers and such..

Housing is ridiculously expensive, I'll give young people that, but I remember working 3 jobs and driving a 14 year old car for years to afford my first
tiny house that needed a lot of work, which I had to learn to do myself
because who could afford to hire anyone to do it? Oh, and I watched mortgage interest rates go from 12.5% to 17% when I renewed my mortgage after 5 years.
A lot of month's end weeks I was living on Kraft Dinner back when it was cheaper than anything else, 17 cents a box in cases of 72 as I recall.

I could go on but won't bore people more on this. A good work ethic pays
off and I've had a pretty good life overall. (But don't ask me about women!) Work hard and sacrifice when you are young and things will be better later..

And take to heart the old joke, 'If I'd known I was going to live this long
I'd have taken better care of myself..' B)

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On 27 Jul 23 01:33:00, Rob Mccart said the following to Ward Dossche:

Housing is ridiculously expensive, I'll give young people that, but I remem working 3 jobs and driving a 14 year old car for years to afford my first tiny house that needed a lot of work, which I had to learn to do myself

I'm the same way. Not a homeowner but I've been working my ass off in what amounts to be three jobs for the past... 17 years or so now.

Despite the tribulation of being a single parent my teenage daughter thankfully works and doesn't expect handouts, appreciates what she has.

Nick

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Housing is ridiculously expensive, I'll give young people that, but I remem working 3 jobs and driving a 14 year old car for years to afford my first tiny house that needed a lot of work, which I had to learn to do myself

I'm the same way. Not a homeowner but I've been working my ass off in what

>amounts to be three jobs for the past... 17 years or so now.

Despite the tribulation of being a single parent my teenage daughter

>thankfully works and doesn't expect handouts, appreciates what she has.

Wow.. Respect.. Sounds like your daughter has been brought up well and deserves some credit there herself.

I managed to (was forced to?) avoid the parenting thing and that's an
expensive thing and very difficult for a single parent to do on their own.

After a few disasterous relationships I didn't get serious with anyone after about age 29. I wasn't avoiding it so much as being overly cautious based on past experience.

Very long story short, financial plans to retire at about age 55 were interrupted when I was 32 and taking a winter off work turned into me
working short hours for myself from then on while living in a primitive,
small cottage on the shores of Georgian Bay.

Friends point me out as so unique as to be some sort of tourist attraction but I don't really regret choosing a path 'less travelled by', although I suppose
I will end up more alone than someone with a family. But, as the song goes, 'every form or refuge has its price'..

(Quotes thanks to Robert Frost and The Eagles..)
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Very long story short, financial plans to retire at about age 55 were interrupted when I was 32 and taking a winter off work turned into me
working short hours for myself from then on while living in a primitive, small cottage on the shores of Georgian Bay.

I have seen the Bay from the opposite shore (along the Bruce Peninsula).
You cannot hardly beat that location.

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working short hours for myself from then on while living in a primitive, RM>> small cottage on the shores of Georgian Bay.

I have seen the Bay from the opposite shore (along the Bruce Peninsula).

>You cannot hardly beat that location.

Yes, I love it here and have owned my place since 1980 and was coming up for quite a few years visiting friends before that. I figure it looks a lot like what most of the world did millions of years ago with a very thin layer of
soil on top of solid bedrock. Of course now and then a 60 foot pine tree will fall over without much force being put on it since the roots often are wide
but only go down a foot or so..

For 13 years I wintered here, which was fun because there was no way that didn't cost a fortune to keep running water so I had a wooden box on the ice covering the hole to slow down the freezing where I got my water in pails.
I used to tell people I had running water.. if I really hurried.. B)
Parking and mailbox was about a mile from the house, snowshoes and toboggan
for getting groceries in. Some mornings I woke up and the pails of water in
the kitchen would have a layer of ice on them.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger ?? B)
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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Monday 31.07.23 - 01:25, Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL:

For 13 years I wintered here, which was fun because there
was no way that didn't cost a fortune to keep running
water so I had a wooden box on the ice covering the hole
to slow down the freezing where I got my water in pails.

But wouldn't the box freeze to the water just the same? Or.. I
suppose you frequented the water hole enough so that it would
never freeze up solid?

Myself, I am currently collecting rainwater in 60L bins for the
purposes of having water for flushing. The line to the toilet
has an issue, so normal operation is not possible.

I used to tell people I had running water.. if I really
hurried.. B) Parking and mailbox was about a mile from the
house, snowshoes and toboggan for getting groceries in.
Some mornings I woke up and the pails of water in the
kitchen would have a layer of ice on them.

Man.. that's roughing it in bush!

(Ever read Roughing It In the Bush by Moodie? It has many
moments describing a 1st settler's experiences).

And.. what about now? Is your parking and mailbox closer to
the house/cabin?

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For 13 years I wintered here, which was fun because there
was no way that didn't cost a fortune to keep running
water so I had a wooden box on the ice covering the hole
to slow down the freezing where I got my water in pails.

But wouldn't the box freeze to the water just the same? Or.. I

>suppose you frequented the water hole enough so that it would
>never freeze up solid?

I used two roughly 2 gallon pails as my water supply so they had to be
refilled pretty much every day. The box on the ice insulated the hole
somewhat from the outside air, and the open hole into the water, which
was about 2 feet across, allowed some heat from the water to keep the
inside of the box warmer. Basically on a cold night instead of an
open hole (if I could find it the next day) may accumulate 2 to 3
inches of ice overnight but the box covered hole, less than half that.

I had an Outhouse (Privy?) so water for flushing wasn't an issue,
and if I'd had a flush toilet, without running water it wouldn't
be that practical to use in any case. Obviosuly it would work but
it would use a Lot of water I'd have to carry a distance up a hill..

And.. what about now? Is your parking and mailbox closer to

>the house/cabin?

A while back my elderly parents found they couldn't really cope with
winter themselves and talked me into staying with them during the
months of snow and ice.. They live in Parry Sound, a small town not
too far from my place. (20 miles / 32 km)

Now that I'm older too I'm not sure I could cope at my place but I
may give it a shot rather than move into another situation once
that option is gone.. My father passed a few years back and my mother celebrated her 90th birthday last December, but she still manages to
live on her own in her own home with a little hired help from others
and a lot of help from me..

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Hello Rob!

** On Tuesday 08.08.23 - 01:21, you wrote to me:

I used two roughly 2 gallon pails as my water supply so
they had to be refilled pretty much every day. The box on
the ice insulated the hole somewhat from the outside air,
and the open hole into the water, which was about 2 feet
across, allowed some heat from the water to keep the
inside of the box warmer. Basically on a cold night
instead of an open hole (if I could find it the next day)
may accumulate 2 to 3 inches of ice overnight but the box
covered hole, less than half that.

I have a friend in the Muskokas who relies on a creek a few
hundred feet from the cottage for supplying water. He mentions
how sometimes the road crew might plow over the opening he uses
for to access the water, and how sometimes he has a fair amount
of ice/snow to dig thru to get to the moving water. Perhaps
some kind of covering like another pail would serve to keep the
ice from forming too fast. I'll mention the idea.

A while back my elderly parents found they couldn't really
cope with winter themselves and talked me into staying
with them during the months of snow and ice.. They live in
Parry Sound, a small town not too far from my place. (20
miles / 32 km)

I have some land in the Parry Sound area.. but it's to the East
and surrounded by the Bear Lake Peatland Conservation Reserve.
No proper road access. Building something on it would have to
be delivered by helicopter or something.

I made a glorious 22km round hike to the property and back to
my truck in May this year. I hiked crossed a 100m beaver damn
in the Crownland part to reach my property from the East.

Now that I'm older too I'm not sure I could cope at my
place but I may give it a shot rather than move into
another situation once that option is gone.. My father
passed a few years back and my mother celebrated her 90th
birthday last December, but she still manages to live on
her own in her own home with a little hired help from
others and a lot of help from me..

Similar situation here too. Snow removal is the biggest hurdle
for me, but I have a neighbor across my small lake who
volunteers to clear my driveway and make some space for a turn-
around.
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I used two roughly 2 gallon pails as my water supply so
they had to be refilled pretty much every day. The box on
the ice insulated the hole somewhat from the outside air,

I have a friend in the Muskokas who relies on a creek a few

>hundred feet from the cottage for supplying water. He mentions
>how sometimes the road crew might plow over the opening he uses
>for to access the water, and how sometimes he has a fair amount
>of ice/snow to dig thru to get to the moving water. Perhaps
>some kind of covering like another pail would serve to keep the
>ice from forming too fast. I'll mention the idea.

A covering helps slow freezing and makes it stand out so it's less
likely someone would accidentally do anything to it. Not sure what
you mean about a plow covering the hole unless he has it right
beside a road. Being a creek I'd think he could just move it a
little further along. Generally the bigger the hole in the ice
the slower ice re-forms on it. I make the hole about 30 inches
across and the box I have on it is 1 inch thick wood maybe 40
inches on a side and 20 inches deep. Wide open on the bottom
and a removeable lid on top. It freezes to the ice pretty quick
with splashing from dipping pails so it doesn't move until things
start to warm up in the spring without a lot of work.

Funny thing that used to happen. Lots of Foxes around in winter
and they are more curious than cats. My box would be 150+ feet
from shore with nothing around it and I'd come out and see Fox
tracks going across the ice, up on top of the box, and carrying
on off the other side. I'd also frequently find fox tracks up
the steps onto my front deck. Just checking things out..

I have some land in the Parry Sound area.. but it's to the East

>and surrounded by the Bear Lake Peatland Conservation Reserve.
>No proper road access. Building something on it would have to
>be delivered by helicopter or something.

I made a glorious 22km round hike to the property and back to

>my truck in May this year. I hiked crossed a 100m beaver damn
>in the Crownland part to reach my property from the East.

There's nothing quite like the wild country..

Similar situation here too. Snow removal is the biggest hurdle

>for me, but I have a neighbor across my small lake who
>volunteers to clear my driveway and make some space for a turn-
>around.

Yes, you often find neighbours are a little different up here than
in the cities, more willing to lend a hand..

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