• Re: luckymobile, anyone?

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Mon Aug 19 22:04:52 2024
    Dear August,

    You guys are real suckers.

    I pay something like 48 Euro for 3TB ... residential...

    You haven't been paying attention. We were discussing mobile data.

    You are right, I wasn't paying attention.

    For mobile data I pay 40.50 Euro for 500GBm that's CAD$61.22.

    You're still being screwed by your operator there.

    When I'm in Canada or the USA (as I was 2 weeks ago) when I use my cellphone to roam intercontinental, I pay a daily charge of 5.95 Euro, let's say CAD$6.00 and then my Belgian phone and data-plan continues in Canada and the USA with a maximum of 55 Euro per month. Also the 500GB continues with that.

    You guys badly need to talk to your providers.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Daniel Path on Mon Aug 19 22:06:38 2024
    Daniel,

    30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
    gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ? ;))

    And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 20 09:54:23 2024
    Hello Ward,

    19 Aug 24 22:06, you wrote to me:

    30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
    gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ?
    ;))

    And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

    haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised, but good catch. :)

    a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax (150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the next day they back off.

    Regards,
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    dp

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Daniel Path on Tue Aug 20 12:35:24 2024
    Daniel,

    And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

    haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised, but good catch. :)

    Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

    a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax (150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the next day they back
    off.

    When politicians need money, they become very resourceful.

    So, millions took to the streets against an internet-tax but they still vote for such an idiot like Orban?

    Maybe the numbers are 'slightly' exagerated?

    Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

    I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ... how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to Daniel Path on Tue Aug 20 22:17:00 2024
    Hello Daniel Path!

    30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, ...

    With Luckymobile, the data is "unlimited" too, but it's
    throttled to 128Kbps or less after the selected quota.

    All the other Canadian mobile carriers do a hard cut-off of
    data when the selected quota is reached.

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    ../|ug

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to DANIEL PATH on Wed Aug 21 02:07:00 2024
    30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
    gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ?

    And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

    haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised,
    >but good catch. :)

    In Canada it's sort of liberalized but the gov't tends to protect large companies like Bell Canada from foreign (generally USA) 'interference',
    which has let them charge much higher prices. It is finally getting a
    lot better than it was, even if it's not quite as cheap as many other
    places, after threats were made to stop overcharging or they would allow
    other companies to come in (mostly from the USA).

    So what ended up happening is companies like Virgin and Koodo are now
    offering services here at a pretty good price, but they distribute their services through one of the big Canadian company networks rather than
    doing it on their own so Bell, Rogers and Telus still make money on it.

    Lucky Mobile, that we've been talking about, is actually a company started
    by Bell Canada as their pre-paid option. It started out cheap (for here)
    but still quite costly compared to plans in the USA, but their packages
    are getting better all the time. I'm now getting 5 times as much data as
    I used to at $5 less per month, and at much higher data speeds, about 7
    times faster than it used to be 5 years back when I started with them.

    One reason I stay with Lucky rather than going with their Regular mobile service is, if you use up all your data one month, rather than cutting
    you off or charging a high price to give you more, you can just continue
    using data at a slower speed at no additional cost. You can't do anything
    major but you can still do simple surfing and send eMails and such.
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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Ward Dossche on Wed Aug 21 21:56:34 2024
    Hello Ward,

    20 Aug 24 12:35, you wrote to me:

    And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly
    there?

    haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still-
    liberalised, but good catch. :)

    Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

    :) the 90s are gone Ward!
    Matav is now called (Deutsche) Telekom

    a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax
    (150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening
    millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the
    next day they back off.

    When politicians need money, they become very resourceful.

    So, millions took to the streets against an internet-tax but they
    still vote for such an idiot like Orban?

    stupid isn't it?

    Maybe the numbers are 'slightly' exagerated?

    maybe. but still, it was the largest protest.

    Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

    me neither, but i have to say optic is the most stable connection from all i have (i have catv at home, the weekend house, etc)

    I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a
    landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ... how much bandwith and speed does the residential
    customer require?

    there is no smaller package :( :P

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Daniel Path on Wed Aug 21 22:33:27 2024
    Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

    :) the 90s are gone Ward!
    Matav is now called (Deutsche) Telekom

    Holy shit ... It's obvious I left that business 22 yrs ago ... I was asked to please retire with full benefits aged 51.

    Matav's parties were the greatest, also the dinner-cruises on the Donau ... 8-) ... OTE from Greece also hosted great parties, but they were totally corrupt.

    \%/@rd

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to Ward Dossche on Wed Aug 21 22:03:23 2024
    On 20 Aug. 2024 12:35, you wrote to Daniel..

    WD> Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

    DSL is poised to be made obsolete, everywhere. My biz is less than a few hundred meters from the downtown switching station and the fastest DSL they claimed they could give me w…s 5Mbps DL and 900kbps UL, even though I was paying for a minimum 10Mbps level.

    Through a fluke chance of enquiring about fiber, I was told that I could get a fiber feed and a speed of 30Mbps for both UL/DL for same price I was getting the DSL. So.. I said "let's do it".

    I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ...

    You're probably getting a fiber-to-copper kind of termination that can continue to use your existing phone wiring.

    how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

    The biggest requirements might be if multiple family members want to each stream their own movies and play games all simultaneously.


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Thu Aug 22 18:35:47 2024
    You're probably getting a fiber-to-copper kind of termination that can continue to use your existing phone wiring.

    Nah, nah, nahhhhh....

    how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

    The biggest requirements might be if multiple family members want to each stream their own movies and play games all simultaneously.

    That's exactly what happens here ... honestly, I don't see the need for fiber. So unless they twist my arm or get me a ridiculous deal I'm staying where I am.

    \%/@rd

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