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  • Re: Chris' little embedded web server

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 13:50:44 2026
    On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
    with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
    experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.


    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 14:17:38 2026
    On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
    go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
    up a GUI using Windows for it.

    Iirc, I also had another port where I could telnet into it and issue commands.


    And is the server multi-threading? Did it leak memory? :)

    Will you disclose its source codes in GitHub?

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    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris M. Thomasson@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 00:28:36 2026
    On 6/14/2026 11:17 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a
    little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
    go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
    up a GUI using Windows for it.

    Iirc, I also had another port where I could telnet into it and issue
    commands.


    And is the server multi-threading? Did it leak memory? :)

    It was multi threading and it leaked nothing. No memory, a handle,
    ect... Well, the only shit storm that could occur when I turned off the limits... Well, Windows NT non-paged memory pool. If that ran out, shit
    could occur. Well, Windows has a neat way to try to take some pressure
    off. A Zero byte recv. So, a WSARecv in flight uses no non-paged memory.
    It would complete on IOCP. I would check its per-io flags, and say okay.
    Not its time to read the data that is ready. The trick was to not use non-paged while the io completion was in flight.

    Will you disclose its source codes in GitHub?

    Iirc wrote about some bits and pieces of it way back in iirc,
    alt.winsock. Its long ago. Actually, I think I might have a hd in my
    storage unit that has my win nt proxy server code.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris M. Thomasson@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 00:33:32 2026
    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
    with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
    experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.


    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?


    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 18:37:52 2026
    On 6/15/2026 3:33 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?

    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.


    I have never ever written a server app before, just business-oriented
    MIS stuffs (mostly Foxpro/DOS, Foxpro/Windows and Visual Foxpro). The
    last time I wrote things related directly to networked operating system
    was Novell Netware.

    I think I could call and respect you as a software engineeer? :)


    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.16
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris M. Thomasson@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 15 15:24:01 2026
    On 6/15/2026 3:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/15/2026 3:33 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?

    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race
    conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine
    because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.


    I have never ever written a server app before, just business-oriented
    MIS stuffs (mostly Foxpro/DOS, Foxpro/Windows and Visual Foxpro). The
    last time I wrote things related directly to networked operating system
    was Novell Netware.

    I think I could call and respect you as a software engineeer? :)



    Yeah. I am. thank you. But the last time I created server code was many
    moons ago. 20-25+ years ago. I moved to another place since then, around
    2012. Coding up fractals and vector fields. Fwiw, I made the 2025 AMS Calander. The cover! And the month of February. Fwiw, check this out.
    Can you get to the damn FB link?

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18nU7hiMYy/

    You can also find some of my work on YouTube. Fwiw, I also made the MIDI
    music here:

    https://youtu.be/HwIkk9zENcg

    https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA



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