Dear Python Users Group,



I am currently learning Python. I am blind and use the JAWS screen reader to assist me. I am trying to use Python's IDLE editor but find it quite challenging. When I move my cursor to a line of code, it reads out the
letters or words from the line above, which makes it very difficult to edit
the code accurately.



I am reaching out to see if anyone knows how to configure IDLE to call out
the letters or words that the cursor is actually on. Additionally, I have searched extensively online but have not been able to find any documentation specifically designed for blind users on how to effectively use Python's
IDLE.



Any guidance or resources you could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you for your assistance.



Best regards,

Jeff


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Dear Jeff,

<jdroth1003@gmail.com> writes:

Dear Python Users Group,



I am currently learning Python. I am blind and use the JAWS screen reader to assist me. I am trying to use Python's IDLE editor but find it quite challenging. When I move my cursor to a line of code, it reads out the letters or words from the line above, which makes it very difficult to edit the code accurately.



I am reaching out to see if anyone knows how to configure IDLE to call out the letters or words that the cursor is actually on. Additionally, I have searched extensively online but have not been able to find any documentation specifically designed for blind users on how to effectively use Python's IDLE.



Any guidance or resources you could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you for your assistance.



Best regards,

Jeff

I can't make any suggestions regarding IDLE as I don't use it. I also
have the impression that most people, rather than IDLE, use some other
form of IDE or editor. So it might be worth looking for more generally programming environments with appropriate support.

I personally use Emacs for many activities, including programming in
Python. On various Emacs-related mailing lists I have come across blind
and visually impaired people, most of whom I assume are using Emacsspeak

https://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/

which has been around for 30 years, so that may be worth having a look
at.

Cheers,

Loris

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Jeff, there are a few specific programmer's resources for blind/VI
programmers that might help more - I am myself a 100% blind programmer,
and, would not necessarily recommend idol from our perspective, since
most people use VS code, or things like edSharp or even pycharm, but, I
am a user of NVDA, which is itself written in python, and not a jaws
user, so you might do better to ask some of the other people in that
context - general blind programmer's mailing list:

https://www.freelists.org/list/program-l


And, the pythonvis blind python programmer's mailing list:

https://programmingforeveryone.groups.io/g/pythonvis


But, besides that, I am a 100%/full-time python web-developer, who uses
python for other things as well, and, besides VS code, edSharp
programmer's text editor is still probably my code editor of choice.


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
"Resistance is futile!...Acceptance is versatile..."


On 2024/11/11 00:28, Jeff via Python-list wrote:

Dear Python Users Group,



I am currently learning Python. I am blind and use the JAWS screen reader to assist me. I am trying to use Python's IDLE editor but find it quite challenging. When I move my cursor to a line of code, it reads out the letters or words from the line above, which makes it very difficult to edit the code accurately.



I am reaching out to see if anyone knows how to configure IDLE to call out the letters or words that the cursor is actually on. Additionally, I have searched extensively online but have not been able to find any documentation specifically designed for blind users on how to effectively use Python's IDLE.



Any guidance or resources you could provide would be greatly appreciated.



Thank you for your assistance.



Best regards,

Jeff

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