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    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Thu Aug 28 10:24:21 2025
    The AI people should now be aware of the problem and maybe
    >> build in some sort of warning system to alert some real person when
    >> a user is sounding dangerously depressed, as you touched on. Kids
    >> would be less likely to pay attention to some disclaimer I'd think.

    Assuming the AI hasn't been programmed, or has reprogrammed itself,
    >> to eliminate these 'defective' people.. (TIC)

    That, sadly, is not out of the realm of possibilities. ;(

    I think people are giving AI more credit than it deserves these days.
    We watched too many Terminator movies growing up.. B)

    Yes, but I do note that you said "hasn't been programmed" above, which was
    the part I believe is more likely in the realm of possibility (vs. reprogramming itself).

    An AI might encourage negative thinking, but likely only because it
    has been programmed to encourage whatever the person chatting with
    it is saying. A user is more likely to come back again to use a
    system that thinks like they do and agrees with them. Likely a lot
    of people are there because they don't get that from 'real' people,
    which may indicate that whatever they are thinking is not quite
    in the popular norm..

    IOW, false encouragement.

    Other stories about an AI reprogramming itself to have more time
    to complete a project it's been given is again still likely linked
    to it wanting to please its 'masters'. I don't think we have to
    worry about AI planning world domination and eliminating us yet.

    If this message disappears, I may have to rethink that.. B)

    I was originally going to respond, quoting this line only and ask "what message"? :D

    Mike


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Sat Aug 30 08:02:10 2025
    Assuming the AI hasn't been programmed, or has reprogrammed itself,
    >> to eliminate these 'defective' people.. (TIC)

    That, sadly, is not out of the realm of possibilities. ;(

    I think people are giving AI more credit than it deserves these days.
    >> We watched too many Terminator movies growing up.. B)

    Yes, but I do note that you said "hasn't been programmed" above, which was
    >the part I believe is more likely in the realm of possibility (vs.
    >reprogramming itself).

    Yes, a lot of AI's are infused with the prejudices of their creators,
    whether by accident or not..

    An AI might encourage negative thinking, but likely only because it
    >> has been programmed to encourage whatever the person chatting with
    >> it is saying. A user is more likely to come back again to use a
    >> system that thinks like they do and agrees with them.

    IOW, false encouragement.

    Yes, or validation, depending on how the user views themself..
    Everyone loves a 'Yes' man..

    I don't think we have to worry about AI planning world
    >> domination and eliminating us yet.

    If this message disappears, I may have to rethink that.. B)

    I was originally going to respond, quoting this line only and ask
    >"what message"? :D

    Ha.. (I think).. B)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Sat Aug 30 09:45:43 2025
    An AI might encourage negative thinking, but likely only because it
    >> has been programmed to encourage whatever the person chatting with
    >> it is saying. A user is more likely to come back again to use a
    >> system that thinks like they do and agrees with them.

    IOW, false encouragement.

    Yes, or validation, depending on how the user views themself..
    Everyone loves a 'Yes' man..

    Validation was the word I was looking for, thanks. ;) Everyone always has loved "yes" men, but they really seem to love them now.

    Mike

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Mon Sep 1 09:24:45 2025
    An AI might encourage negative thinking, but likely only because it
    >> has been programmed to encourage whatever the person chatting with
    >> it is saying.

    IOW, false encouragement.

    Yes, or validation, depending on how the user views themself..
    >> Everyone loves a 'Yes' man..

    Validation was the word I was looking for, thanks. ;)

    That wasn't intended as a correction.
    I think both words can be correct depending on context.

    In some cases a person is sure they are right and just wants some
    sort of acknowledgement of that while in the other case the person
    isn't too sure if their thinking is right and the right words in
    their ear could push their thinking one way or the other.

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