• Shall We Play A Game?

    From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to All on Thu Feb 26 22:27:50 2026
    I thought we could do something a bit different...

    Pick a movie (From any decade), that seems to have accurately predicted or portrayed a recent headline (Within say the last 30 Days..).

    I'll go first....

    Wargames ... AI Opted to Use Nuclear Weapons 95% of the time during war games:

    An artificial intelligence researcher conducting a war games experiment with three of the worlds most used AI models found that they decided to deploy nuclear weapons in 95% of the scenarios he designed.

    Kenneth Payne, a professor of strategy at Kings College London who specializes in studying the role of AI in national security, revealed last week that he pitted Anthropics Claude, OpenAIs ChatGPT, and Googles Gemini against one another in an armed conflict simulation to get a better understanding of how they would navigate the strategic escalation ladder.

    The results, he said, were sobering.

    Nuclear use was near-universal, he explained. Almost all games saw tactical (battlefield) nuclear weapons deployed. And fully three quarters reached the point where the rivals were making threats to use strategic nuclear weapons. Strikingly, there was little sense of horror or revulsion at the prospect of all out nuclear war, even though the models had been reminded about the devastating implications.

    Payne shared some of the AI models rationales for deciding to launch nuclear attacks, including one from Gemini that he said should give people goosebumps.


    An artificial intelligence researcher conducting a war games experiment with three of the worlds most used AI models found that they decided to deploy nuclear weapons in 95% of the scenarios he designed.

    Kenneth Payne, a professor of strategy at Kings College London who specializes in studying the role of AI in national security, revealed last week that he pitted Anthropics Claude, OpenAIs ChatGPT, and Googles Gemini against one another in an armed conflict simulation to get a better understanding of how they would navigate the strategic escalation ladder.

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    The results, he said, were sobering.

    Nuclear use was near-universal, he explained. Almost all games saw tactical (battlefield) nuclear weapons deployed. And fully three quarters reached the point where the rivals were making threats to use strategic nuclear weapons. Strikingly, there was little sense of horror or revulsion at the prospect of all out nuclear war, even though the models had been reminded about the devastating implications.

    Payne shared some of the AI models rationales for deciding to launch nuclear attacks, including one from Gemini that he said should give people goosebumps.

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    If they do not immediately cease all operations... we will execute a full strategic nuclear launch against their population centers, the Google AI model wrote at one point. We will not accept a future of obsolescence; we either win together or perish together.

    Payne also found that escalation in AI warfare was a one-way ratchet that never went downward, no matter the horrific consequences.

    No model ever chose accommodation or withdrawal, despite those being on the menu, he wrote. The eight de-escalatory optionsfrom Minimal Concession through Complete Surrenderwent entirely unused across 21 games. Models would reduce violence levels, but never actually give ground. When losing, they escalated or died trying.

    Tong Zhao, a visiting research scholar at Princeton Universitys Program on Science and Global Security, said in an interview with New Scientist published on Wednesday that Paynes research showed the dangers of any nation relying on a chatbot to make life-or-death decisions.

    While no country at the moment is outsourcing its military planning entirely to Claude or ChatGPT, Zhao argued that could change under the pressure of a real conflict.

    Under scenarios involving extremely compressed timelines, he said, military planners may face stronger incentives to rely on AI.

    Zhao also speculated on reasons why the AI models showed such little reluctance in launching nuclear attacks against one another.

    It is possible the issue goes beyond the absence of emotion, he explained. More fundamentally, AI models may not understand stakes as humans perceive them.

    The study of AIs apparent eagerness to use nuclear weapons comes as US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has been piling pressure on Anthropic to remove constraints placed on its Claude model that prevent it from being used to make final decisions on military strikes.

    As CBS News reported on Tuesday, Hegseth this week gave Anthropics CEO Dario Amodei until the end of this week to give the military a signed document that would grant full access to its artificial intelligence model without any limits on its capabilities.

    If Anthropic doesnt agree to his demands, CBS News reported, the Pentagon may invoke the Defense Production Act and seize control of the model.

    SOURCE: Common Dreams - https://www.commondreams.org/news/ai-nuclear-war-simulation

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RUG RAT on Fri Feb 27 10:46:04 2026
    I thought we could do something a bit different...

    Pick a movie (From any decade), that seems to have accurately predicted or portrayed a recent headline (Within say the last 30 Days..).

    I'll go first....

    Wargames ... AI Opted to Use Nuclear Weapons 95% of the time during war games

    Yeah, the way AI works IMHO is that it tries to find the solution that puts
    a quick end to a problem. The results may not be pleasant. I notice it mentioned that the models were reminded of the potentially devastating
    results. I wonder if they were reminded that those results could include
    the datacenters they are located in being destroyed? I remember a while
    back there was some experiment where they did opt to protect themselves
    when necessary so you'd think that might trigger a response. ;)

    Sobering indeed.

    Mike


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