Israel sucking us into a conflict with Iran, i.e. the current conflict that

>we are discussing below. I don't think they needed those US things to
>survive, but do very much need them to keep the conflict with Iran and
>Lebanon going.

Okay.. your wording about "an ally.. using their money to buy us into it" made me think you meant someone was paying the USA to get involved in
a conflict. I'd imagine that if anything the USA is backing Israel for
a good part of their part in the conflicts.

There is at least one political action committee (PAC) that donates heavily to US political campaigns that is made up of transplanted and foreign donors from Israel. They are been actively buying US politicians that are for their
war, by donating heavily to their campaigns, and waging successful campaigns
to remove any from office that oppose the conflict.

One Kentucky representative has gone on record claiming that every congressperson who has accepted money from this PAC has at least one
handler, provided by the PAC, that advises them on any issues that involve Israel.

So, yes, they are indeed using their money to buy us into their conflict.

Supposedly, his fascination with Canada and Greenland is caused by

>unexploited mineral and other natural resources that he wants go get a hold
>of. His ardent followers like all the "51st State" speculation, so that
>could be why he brings it up every time something else isn't going well.

The mineral thing, not to mention other resources, makes sense of
course. I also think that part of Trump's original plan was to
make the USA territory significantly bigger and richer to make him
look better in the history books.

Yeah, I suspect seeing that once upon a time other Presidents got to add
states to the union, and no one has done it in roughly 80 years, is another motivating "look what I did" factor.

Like Russia vs. Ukraine, I think the only way out of this one is for

>the US to admit they goofed and get out of it.

Yes, that's probably likely, and it doesn't help that Iran can see
this coming and their demands to 'settle' are now getting more and
more difficult to agree to.. Reading between the lines I'm sure
their insistance that their rights are respected would include
their right to build nuclear weapons if they want to..
..Further complicated by no one knowing who the heck is running
the country. A deal one day is refused by someone else the next.

Also, Iran wants the right to treat their neighbors however they want. It
is very difficult to believe that a US administration could actually make
Iran look like the good guys in a conflict, but this one has been quite sucessful at doing so with a good portion of the electorate.

I am of the opinion that this is likely a conflict between *two* bad guys, neither of whom know how to properly treat their neighbors (or their own people) and no good guys.


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Okay.. your wording about "an ally.. using their money to buy us into it"

>> made me think you meant someone was paying the USA to get involved in
>> a conflict.

There is at least one political action committee (PAC) that donates heavily t

>US political campaigns that is made up of transplanted and foreign donors fro
>Israel. They are been actively buying US politicians that are for their
>war, by donating heavily to their campaigns, and waging successful campaigns
>to remove any from office that oppose the conflict.

Okay, I see what you mean now. 'Buying' individual's support rather than buying/bribing the support of the whole government..

I also think that part of Trump's original plan was to make

>> the USA territory significantly bigger and richer to make him
>> look better in the history books.

Yeah, I suspect seeing that once upon a time other Presidents got to add

>states to the union, and no one has done it in roughly 80 years, is another
>motivating "look what I did" factor.

Definitely.. He's quite miffed I think that a lot of his plans that
were going to make him look brilliant have not worked out so well.

Also, Iran wants the right to treat their neighbors however they want. It

>is very difficult to believe that a US administration could actually make
>Iran look like the good guys in a conflict, but this one has been quite
>sucessful at doing so with a good portion of the electorate.

I am of the opinion that this is likely a conflict between *two* bad guys,

>neither of whom know how to properly treat their neighbors (or their own
>people) and no good guys.

A big part of the problem in Iran is there seem to be 3 groups who
all think they are in charge so coming to some sort of agreement
with one of them is likely to just have it refused by the others.
And not just because it's a bad deal, it's grandstanding to say that
whatever the others agreed to do doesn't count since they are not
the ones in charge.

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