Hi Dave,

stevia. It's flavour profile is very much closer to the "realMcCoy".

I've been drinking Diet Coke for so long that when I tried a Coke Zero,
it didn't taste right to me. It has a slightly different flavor profile
so I'll stay with Diet Coke as long as I can (no pun intended).

And that's the reason I tried and stuck with the Coke Zero - the
flavour profile is pretty much the same as original Coke.

Just those subtle differences in taste make for us liking the "close to
the same but different" products.

I note that Coke is going back to cane sugar for its sweetner and
drop kicking the HFCS to the curb. Now I won't have to se3arch out
Mexican Coco Cola if I need the fully leaded stuff as an ingredient.

Or stock up on Mexican Coke or KFP Coke. (G)

That's the sweet part (pun intended) I won't have to play Joe Friday
and track down the Mexican or Jewish stuff.

Easier to find in some places or times of year than others. When we were
in AZ, we weren't too far from the border. I went over once, with some
friends (had been over the border in TX in the 80s) for some shopping
(not for Coke). Downside of living that close was the problem with
illeagals; had some friends in law enforcement that had been shot at.

I did discover a Dr. Pepper product Iquite like,mthough. Sugar free
Pwppwe mixed with Cream Soda. Apparently other like it as well

****** ?????

becaouse it's hard to find it not store shelves. Bv)=

May be more available in some stores/areas than others.

Kinda like my Dannon chocolate/raspberry/fat free yogut. Hard to keep
in stock.

And not one that can be replicated with just a scoop of raspberry jam
in plain yogurt. You need a source of good chocolate also.

The "Fruit on the bottom" yoghurts are nice. The 4 1/2 oz little tubs
are a pleasant snack if I get hunger pangs twixt meal times. Or just because.

I have a Wegman's fruit on the bottom yogurt most days for breakfast. Rotate between blueberry, peach, strawberry and raspberry, the latter 2 being my favorites. If I'm not able to get Wegman's, I'll usually find Dannon's and get it; I'll also get skyr, an Icelandic yogurt like
product. I've also found quark, a German yogurt like product
occaisionally in the States, had it quite often when stationed over
there but not so much since we've been back due to lack of
availability.

Be willing to bet that if you check the USDA Establishment label on
the Wegman's stuff it is the same as on the Dannon/Oikos product. I certainly is on my Hy-Vee and Schnuk's house brand/label product(s).

Quite possible.

I do tomato juice and the cranberry juice - which my nephrologist
(kidney doc) recommended as being good in several ways for my kidney

So far my kidneys seem to be doing well without cranberry juice. Had a scare a few years ago with some blood work that indicated maybe
otherwise so my primary care dr. referred me to a nephrologist. He said all was well, just come back once a year to keep an eye on things. Last

Saw Dr. Nutt (nephrologist) yeaterday and was informed my kidneys are doing well, told to keep on with the Lasix and "see me in six mon
ths". I like that he's assuming I'll be available in six months. Bv)=

You're planning to stick around, I presume. (G)

Staying hydrated on a long trip is easy for guys. Any bush, tree or
the vehicle itself provides enough of a "fig leaf" for easing of the pressur. Women don't have the same advantageous plumbing.

No, but having the camper has been handy for both of us. Just have to

Not everyone brings their own Extended Stay America suite with then.
Bv)=

No, and there have been times, even with it, that have been close
calls. Worst time without the camper (but just made it safely) was one time coming down from a trip up north. Heard on traffic radio of an accident southbound on I-95, south of DC and just south of where we
would pick it up that morning on our traffic radio station, figured it

What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with
it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or
Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio
intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of
weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made for
him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They

advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the Area!".
We both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of lamb (their words,
but true), very RH> tender and Greek Salad, Cucumber Sauce, Hummus and
Warm Pita Bread RH> (Caps all theirs). It was pretty good, large
servings so I took home RH> maybe about half of my lamb, pita and some
hummus. We'll probably stick RH> with our usual local Mediterranian
place but this one was a good one to RH> try.

Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
Morrocaan, etc. from which to choose.

We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
classify as European.

I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
from

CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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Hi Dave,

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

the local Star 66 truck stop restaurant .... Spanakopita, gyros,
sometimes (rarely) moussaka. But never avgolemono.

We've got some down in Raleigh but usually don't go down there just for
a meal unless it's a special occaision. If we're down there, we'll get something, sometimes fast food, sometimes more upscale. Yesterday was
Steve's birthday so we went to the local Texas Roadhouse. I also made a
pumpkin roll; that's been his birthday cake ever since his mom gave me
the recipe in 1992.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

I note that Coke is going back to cane sugar for its sweetner and
drop kicking the HFCS to the curb. Now I won't have to se3arch out
Mexican Coco Cola if I need the fully leaded stuff as an ingredient.

Or stock up on Mexican Coke or KFP Coke. (G)

That's the sweet part (pun intended) I won't have to play Joe Friday
and track down the Mexican or Jewish stuff.

Easier to find in some places or times of year than others. When we
were in AZ, we weren't too far from the border. I went over once, with some friends (had been over the border in TX in the 80s) for some
shopping (not for Coke). Downside of living that close was the problem with illeagals; had some friends in law enforcement that had been shot
at.

That's why the nabs carry guns - so they can shoot back.

I did discover a Dr. Pepper product Iquite like,mthough. Sugar free
Pwppwe mixed with Cream Soda. Apparently other like it as well

****** ?????

Fat fingers. should have been Pepper

becaouse it's hard to find it not store shelves. Bv)=

May be more available in some stores/areas than others.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based partly
on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product that sold
out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the bank. I was
working in a gas station/c-store when Pepsi One was introduced. We sold
out to bare shelves within two days after a delivery. And we could NOT get
the bozo driver to leave more.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

I do tomato juice and the cranberry juice - which my nephrologist
(kidney doc) recommended as being good in several ways for my kidney

So far my kidneys seem to be doing well without cranberry juice. Had a scare a few years ago with some blood work that indicated maybe
otherwise so my primary care dr. referred me to a nephrologist. He said all was well, just come back once a year to keep an eye on things. Last

Saw Dr. Nutt (nephrologist) yeaterday and was informed my kidneys are doing well, told to keep on with the Lasix and "see me in six mon
ths". I like that he's assuming I'll be available in six months. Bv)=

You're planning to stick around, I presume. (G)

Well, yeah. I'm reaqdy if it happens. Dennis gets the house as long as he wants until he go into "other" (assisted living/sheltered care/etc) quarters
at which time it goes to Habitat For Humanity to do with as they will. It's only fair. Other than my bed all the furniture, lamps, etc came from there.

Any money left in my accounts goes (split equally) between St. Jude's
in Memphis and the Shriner's Cripplped Childrens' Hospitals.

Staying hydrated on a long trip is easy for guys. Any bush, tree or
the vehicle itself provides enough of a "fig leaf" for easing of the pressur. Women don't have the same advantageous plumbing.

No, but having the camper has been handy for both of us. Just have to

Not everyone brings their own Extended Stay America suite with then.
Bv)=

No, and there have been times, even with it, that have been close
calls. Worst time without the camper (but just made it safely) was one time coming down from a trip up north. Heard on traffic radio of an accident southbound on I-95, south of DC and just south of where we
would pick it up that morning on our traffic radio station, figured it

And people wonder why I wear black slacks/workm pants. Bv)= No spreading
stain to give me away.

What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made
for him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found getting
on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They did Orson
Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They
advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the
Area!".
We

both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of lamb (their words,

but true), very RH> tender and Greek Salad, Cucumber Sauce, Hummus and
Warm Pita Bread RH> (Caps all theirs). It was pretty good, large
servings so I took home RH> maybe about half of my lamb, pita and some
hummus. We'll probably stick RH> with our usual local Mediterranian
place but this one was a good one to RH> try.

Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
Morrocaan, etc. from which to choose.

We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
classify as European.

I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
from

My favourite Greek soup:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Hank's Avgolemono Soup
Categories: Soups, Poultry, Citrus, Rice, Eggs
Yield: 7 Servings

2 tb Olive oil
1 c Chopped yellow onion
5 c Chicken stock
+=PLUS=+
1 c Water
1/2 c Orzo or rice
1 lb Chicken; 1/4" cubes
Salt
3 tb Lemon juice
3 lg Eggs
Fresh parsley to garnish

Heat the olive oil in a medium pot and saute the onions
over medium-high heat 'til they are soft & translucent,
4-5 minutes. While the onions are cooking, bring another
pot of salted water to a boil and add the orzo or rice.

When the onions are ready, add the chicken stock and
water and bring to a bare simmer. When the orzo or rice
is nearly done - firm, but mostly cooked - drain the
boiling water and add the pasta or rice to the chicken
broth. Add the diced chicken to the pot. Let this cook
5-8 minutes, then taste the soup for salt.

Beat the eggs in a bowl. Whisking constantly, add the
lemon juice to the eggs. You will need to temper the
eggs before you add the egg-lemon mixture to the soup.
It takes both hands to do this. With one hand, whisk the
egg-lemon mixture vigorously. With the other, slowly
pour in a ladle's worth of hot broth. Do this at least
twice, and you can add as many ladle's worth of broth
as you want to the mixture.

Turn the heat off the soup. Whisk the soup with one
hand while you pour the hot egg-lemon mixture in with
the other. Serve at once, garnished with parsley.

Yield: Serves 6-8.

Recipe by: Hank Shaw

From: http://simplyrecipes.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

MMMMM

... Sometimes I wrestle with my demons. Sometimes we just snuggle.
--- MultiMail/Win
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

the local Star 66 truck stop restaurant .... Spanakopita, gyros,
sometimes (rarely) moussaka. But never avgolemono.

We've got some down in Raleigh but usually don't go down there just for
a meal unless it's a special occaision. If we're down there, we'll get something, sometimes fast food, sometimes more upscale. Yesterday was Steve's birthday so we went to the local Texas Roadhouse. I also made a pumpkin roll; that's been his birthday cake ever since his mom gave me
the recipe in 1992.

This is my other favourite Greek speciality - especially when someone else
is making it. Bv)=

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Moussaka - Part One
Categories: Lamb/mutton, Cheese, Potatoes, Casseroles, Sauces
Yield: 8 Servings

MMMMM-------------------------MEAT SAUCE------------------------------
2 lb Ground lamb (or beef)
2 tb Olive oil
1 Chopped onion
4 cl Garlic; chopped
1 ts Allspice
1 ts Cinnamon
1 ts Black pepper
1 tb Dried oregano
2 tb Tomato paste
1/2 c Red wine
Zest of a lemon
2 tb (or more) lemon juice
Salt

MMMMM--------------------------BECHAMEL-------------------------------
1/4 lb Unsalted butter
1/2 c Flour
1 ts Salt
4 c Whole milk
4 lg Egg yolks
1/2 ts Ground nutmeg

MMMMM--------------------------MOUSSAKA-------------------------------
3 lg Globe eggplants
1/2 c Salt
8 c Water
3 Yukon gold potatoes
1 c Grated mizithra cheese *
Olive oil

* A word on the cheese: All sorts of cheese can be used
here, and to be most authentic, use kefalotyri. We used
mizithra, which is becoming increasingly available in
supermarkets. No need to search the globe for these cheeses,
however, as a pecorino or any hard grating cheese will work
fine.

PREPARE THE MEAT SAUCE: Heat the olive oil in a large sauté
pan over medium-high heat and brown the ground meat. By the
way, the meat will brown best if you don't stir it. Add the
onions about halfway into the browning process. Sprinkle
salt over the meat and onions.

Once the meat is browned and the onions have softened, add
the garlic, allspice, cinnamon, black pepper, oregano and
tomato paste. Mix well and cook for 2-3 minutes.

Add the red wine and mix well. Bring the sauce to a simmer,
reduce the heat and continue to simmer gently, uncovered for
20 minutes. Turn off the heat. Taste for salt and add more
if needed. Add the lemon zest and the lemon juice. Mix well
and taste. If the sauce needs more acidity, add more lemon
juice.

Set the sauce aside.

PREPARE THE POTATOES AND EGGPLANTS: Mix the 1/2 cup salt
with the 8 cups of water in a large pot or container. This
will be the brine for the eggplants.

Slice the top and bottom off the eggplants. Cut thick strips
of the skin off the eggplants to give them a striped
appearance. A little skin on the eggplant is good for
texture, but leaving it all on makes the moussaka hard to
cut later, and can add bitterness, which you don't want.
(Some moussaka recipes leave the skin on and have you slice
the eggplants lengthwise, which is an option if you prefer.)
Slice the eggplant into 1/4" rounds and drop them into
the brine.

CONTINUED TO PART TWO

From: http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/moussaka

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

MMMMM

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Moussaka - Part Two
Categories: Lamb/mutton, Cheese, Potatoes, Casseroles, Sauces
Yield: 8 Servings

Continued from Part One

Let the eggplants sit in the brine 15-20 minutes, then
remove them to a series of paper towels to dry. Place a
paper towel down on the counter, layer some eggplant on it,
then cover with another sheet of paper towel and repeat.

As the eggplants are brining, peel and slice the potatoes
into 1/4" rounds. Boil them in salted water for 5-8
minutes - you want them undercooked, but no longer
crunchy. Drain and set aside.

To cook the eggplant, broil or grill the rounds. You could
also fry the eggplant rounds but they tend to absorb a lot
of oil that way. To grill the eggplant rounds, get a grill
very hot and close the lid. Paint one side of the eggplant
rounds with olive oil and grill 2-3 minutes. When they are
done on one side, paint the other side with oil and flip.
When the eggplants are nicely grilled, set aside. To broil,
line a broiling pan or roasting pan with aluminum foil.
Paint with olive oil. Place the eggplant rounds on the foil
and brush with olive oil. Broil for 3-4 minutes until
lightly browned on one side, then flip them over and broil
for a few minutes more. Set aside.

PREPARE THE BÉCHAMEL: Heat milk in a pot on medium heat
until steamy (about 160ºF/70ºC). Do not let simmer.

Heat the butter in a small pot over medium heat. When the
butter has completely melted, slowly whisk in the flour. Let
this roux simmer over medium-low heat for a few minutes. Do
not let it get too dark.

Little by little, pour in the steamy milk, stirring
constantly. It will set up and thicken dramatically at
first, but keep adding milk and stirring, the sauce will
loosen. Return the heat to medium. Add about a teaspoon of
salt and the nutmeg. Stir well.

Put the egg yolks in a bowl and whisk to combine. Temper the
eggs so they don't scramble when you put them into the
sauce. Using two hands, one with a whisk, the other with a
ladle, slowly pour in a couple ladle's worth of the hot
béchamel into the eggs, whisking all the time. Slowly pour
the egg mixture back into the béchamel while whisking the
mixture. Keep the sauce on very low heat, do not let simmer
or boil.

FINISH THE MOUSSAKA: Preheat the oven to 350ºF/175ºC.
Layer a casserole with the potatoes, overlapping slightly.
Top the layer of potatoes with a layer of eggplant slices
(use just half of the slices).

Cover the eggplant slices with the meat sauce. Then layer
remaining eggplant slices on top of the meat.

Sprinkle half the cheese on top. Ladle the béchamel over
everything in an even layer. Sprinkle the rest of the cheese
on top.

Bake for 30-45 minutes, or until the top is nicely browned.

Let the moussaka cool for at least 15 minutes before serving.

Serves 8.

UDD Notes: You can use potatoes only and omit the
eggplant. Simply increase the amount of potatoes to the
equivalent of the deleted eggplant. Yukon Gold potatoes
are nicely colourful but not necessary. Any potato that
will work in a stew will work well here.

I hate to open a jug of wine just to make a moussaka. So,
I usually substitute a mix of half Welch's grape juice and
half red wine vinegar.

From: http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/moussaka

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

MMMMM

... Cats took many thousands of years to domesticate humans.
--- MultiMail/Win
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Hi Dave,

You disappeared off the board for a few days, got me wondering if all
was OK. Good to see you back.

Or stock up on Mexican Coke or KFP Coke. (G)

That's the sweet part (pun intended) I won't have to play Joe Friday
and track down the Mexican or Jewish stuff.

Easier to find in some places or times of year than others. When we
were in AZ, we weren't too far from the border. I went over once, with some friends (had been over the border in TX in the 80s) for some
shopping (not for Coke). Downside of living that close was the problem with illeagals; had some friends in law enforcement that had been shot
at.

That's why the nabs carry guns - so they can shoot back.

Got that one right! Seemed like every other day there was an article in
the newspaper or story on tv news of what illeagals had done.

I did discover a Dr. Pepper product Iquite like,mthough. Sugar free
Pwppwe mixed with Cream Soda. Apparently other like it as well

****** ?????

Fat fingers. should have been Pepper

OK, I know there's a new brand out called Poppie so wasn't sure if you
were referring to that or not.

becaouse it's hard to find it not store shelves. Bv)=

May be more available in some stores/areas than others.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
bank. I was
working in a gas station/c-store when Pepsi One was introduced. We
sold out to bare shelves within two days after a delivery. And we
could NOT get the bozo driver to leave more.

They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry
Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of
his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

Saw Dr. Nutt (nephrologist) yeaterday and was informed my kidneys are doing well, told to keep on with the Lasix and "see me in six mon
ths". I like that he's assuming I'll be available in six months. Bv)=

You're planning to stick around, I presume. (G)

Well, yeah. I'm reaqdy if it happens. Dennis gets the house as long as
he wants until he go into "other" (assisted living/sheltered care/etc) quarters at which time it goes to Habitat For Humanity to do with as
they will. It's only fair. Other than my bed all the furniture, lamps,
etc came from there.

Sounds like a good idea to me. We'll probably have our girls sell this
house and donate stuff to ReStore. My brother left his house to us 4
siblings; Steve and I had just bought our house and didn't want to deal
with 1/4 house in Florida so sold back our share ASAP.

Any money left in my accounts goes (split equally) between St.

Jude's DD> in Memphis and the Shriner's Cripplped Childrens' Hospitals.

Both good causes.

No, and there have been times, even with it, that have been close
calls. Worst time without the camper (but just made it safely) was one

And people wonder why I wear black slacks/workm pants. Bv)= No
spreading stain to give me away.

(G)

What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made
for him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow the
story with road noise. Music or talk radio works better.

Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They RH>

advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the RH>
Area!". RH> We DD> both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of

Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
Morrocaan, etc. from which to choose.

We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
classify as European.

I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
from

My favourite Greek soup:

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Generic, non-offensive, non-funny tagline... boring, eh?

--- PPoint 3.01
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HI Dave,

the local Star 66 truck stop restaurant .... Spanakopita, gyros,
sometimes (rarely) moussaka. But never avgolemono.

We've got some down in Raleigh but usually don't go down there just for
a meal unless it's a special occaision. If we're down there, we'll get something, sometimes fast food, sometimes more upscale. Yesterday was Steve's birthday so we went to the local Texas Roadhouse. I also made a pumpkin roll; that's been his birthday cake ever since his mom gave me
the recipe in 1992.

This is my other favourite Greek speciality - especially when someone
else is making it. Bv)=

Title: Moussaka - Part One
Categories: Lamb/mutton, Cheese, Potatoes, Casseroles, Sauces
Yield: 8 Servings

I've eaten it different times but not (yet) tried making it. It may be
like some things, enjoy it when somebody else has taken the time/effort
to make it.


---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Myth #1: The computer only does what you tell it to do.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Dave,

You disappeared off the board for a few days, got me wondering if all
was OK. Good to see you back.

I've just graduaated from "The dog ate my homewoek" to "The dogs atee
my internet". Bv)=

I've had those times, glad I have a resident computer guru/geek on
premisis. (G)

That's the sweet part (pun intended) I won't have to play Joe Friday

Easier to find in some places or times of year than others. When we
were in AZ, we weren't too far from the border. I went over once, with some friends (had been over the border in TX in the 80s) for some
shopping (not for Coke). Downside of living that close was the problem with illeagals; had some friends in law enforcement that had been shot
at.

That's why the nabs carry guns - so they can shoot back.

Got that one right! Seemed like every other day there was an article in the newspaper or story on tv news of what illeagals had done.

Which is how the media work. "Good news" does not sell papers/get
clicks/ have people tune-in. What they peddle (no matter their
political leaning is the lyric from the old Hee-Haw3 song "gollm,
despair, agny on me. Deep dark depression, excessive misery". Bv)=

I remember that one, and the phrase "If it bleeds, it leads" which is so
often true in all forms of media.

Sadlt, there is *always* something to vie with alarm.

All too true.

I did discover a Dr. Pepper product Iquite like,mthough. Sugar free
Pwppwe mixed with Cream Soda. Apparently other like it as well

****** ?????

Fat fingers. should have been Pepper

OK, I know there's a new brand out called Poppie so wasn't sure if you were referring to that or not.

If you don't sk questions you don't get asnswers. I put Dr. Pepper at (about) #8 on my soft drinks list. And cream soda even lower. But the combination .... WOW! Right up there with Coke Zero.

I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try the combination tho.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
bank. I was

They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same
size/weight as the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about
1/3 of a US cent. Las Vegas slot machines were flooded with them until
the US mob had a meeting with the Mexican mob - who then got the
Mexican gummint to "re-design" their nickel so it wouldn't fool US
coin mechanisms.

In Steve's case, he got more Korean and European coinage.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

Any money left in my accounts goes (split equally) between St.

Jude's DD> in Memphis and the Shriner's Cripplped Childrens'
Hospitals.

Both good causes.

I was in the Navy, stationed at NAS Memphis when Danny Thomas broke
ground for St. Jude's. He done good.

We've driven by it various times either heading out west or coming back
from a western trip. Also seen enough fund raising appeals on syndicated
tv channels.

What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made
for him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow

CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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Hi Dave,

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

the story with road noise. Music or talk radio works better.

I bet it's harder to follow the chin music (which can be a good thing) than the instrumental music.

Most talk radio hosts are pretty understandable. OTOH, some of the
callers are, shall we say, not so comprehensible, either in their speech
or ideas,

Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They RH>
advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the RH>
Area!". RH> We DD> both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of

Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
Morrocaan, etc. to pick from.

We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
classify as European.

I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
from

My favourite Greek soup:

We do talk a lot, don't we? 'nother Greek favourite:

Title: Byzantine Dolmathes (Stuffed Grape Leaves)
Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetables, Rice, Nuts, Wine
Yield: 60 Servings

We've tried, and liked them. They're available as a side at our favorite
kebab place. As for talking too much...........just keeping tabs on each
other, making sure we're both still on the same side of the dirt. (G)

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Hi Dave,

the local Star 66 truck stop restaurant .... Spanakopita, gyros,
sometimes (rarely) moussaka. But never avgolemono.

We've got some down in Raleigh but usually don't go down there just for
a meal unless it's a special occaision. If we're down there, we'll get

This is my other favourite Greek speciality - especially when someone
else is making it. Bv)=

Title: Moussaka - Part One
Categories: Lamb/mutton, Cheese, Potatoes, Casseroles, Sauces
Yield: 8 Servings

I've eaten it different times but not (yet) tried making it. It may be like some things, enjoy it when somebody else has taken the time/effort
to make it.

It's sorta/kinda like a Greek lasagne using potatoes/eggplant for the pasta sheets. I will note, too, that nat all moussaka uses bechamel.
I've had some very tasty moussaka made with red gravy.

I've made this recipe - once only - and it was quite tasty. Almost converted me to red moussaka. I'dgladly eat it if someone else made
it.

Title: A.T.K. Moussaka
Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs, Sauces
Yield: 8 servings

At this stage of my life I'll put it in the "I'll eat it if somebody
else makes it" category. I like it, but not enough to take the time and
effort to make it.

Tried a new to us place after church today, Hibachi Express. Limited
menu, reasonable prices, very generous servings. We both came home with
left overs and plan on going back from time to time. A Flying Biscuit
cafe just opened up in the same plaza, thought about trying it but it
was packed and had a waiting line. We'll wait until it's not so new any
more before trying it.

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Most talk radio hosts are pretty understandable. OTOH, some of the
callers are, shall we say, not so comprehensible, either in their
speech or ideas,

Reminds me of Coast To Coast AM, originally with Art Bell who sadly
passed away, and now with George Noory. Some of the stuff that is
discussed is way, way out there.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Sean's Salmon Patties
Categories: Main dish, Fish, Seandennis
Yield: 4 Servings

1 Can (14 3/4 oz) salmon
4 oz Saltines, finely crushed
2 tb Onion flakes
2 Eggs
1 tb Lemon juice
1 ts Black pepper
Oil or butter for frying

Empty can of salmon into large bowl. Remove extra skin and bones if
desired. Mix all ingredients in bowl. In your favorite skillet, pour
enough oil to just cover the bottom and heat until oil shimmers. Form
patties into 4 inch by 1/2 inch patties and fry lightly until golden
brown.

Some taste suggestions: instead of using the lemon juice and pepper,
try using a "lemon and herb" seasoning mix. You could also add a
teaspoon of dill if you like that. Mrs. Dash is a favorite of mine
as well.

From: Sean's kitchen

MM'd by Sean Dennis on 19 June 2011
Updated 19 July 2023

MMMMM

-- Sean

... Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.
--- MultiMail/Win
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)

Hi Dave,

You disappeared off the board for a few days, got me wondering if all
was OK. Good to see you back.

I've just graduaated from "The dog ate my homewoek" to "The dogs atee
my internet". Bv)=

I've had those times, glad I have a resident computer guru/geek on premisis. (G)

The yappies are why the techs had to make a return visit. The cable
they ate was in their yard, not mine. The fur kids we are boarding are much
too well behaved to ever do something like nthat. Bv)=

Hopefully they learned that cable doesn't taste good and there will not
be a repeat experience.

8<----- +++++----->8

If you don't sk questions you don't get asnswers. I put Dr. Pepper at (about) #8 on my soft drinks list. And cream soda even lower. But the combination .... WOW! Right up there with Coke Zero.

I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try
the combination tho.

My first go was when somoene handed me a bottle and I took a drink
withut paying attention - until it hit my mouth.

I'll ask what it is before drinking.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
bank. I was

They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same
size/weight as the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about
1/3 of a US cent. Las Vegas slot machines were flooded with them until
the US mob had a meeting with the Mexican mob - who then got the
Mexican gummint to "re-design" their nickel so it wouldn't fool US
coin mechanisms.

In Steve's case, he got more Korean and European coinage.

As they say "A pint's a pound, the world around." What we need is a
good five-cent nicklel.

Now more than ever, now that the penny is going away.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

I was in the Navy, stationed at NAS Memphis when Danny Thomas broke
ground for St. Jude's. He done good.

We've driven by it various times either heading out west or coming back from a western trip. Also seen enough fund raising appeals on
syndicated tv channels.

Memphis is sorta/kinda like Hot-lanta. I take the run-around roads and don't try going right through. Generally quicker and less flustrating.

Best experience we had driving thru Atlanta was one January night, about
8 pm. By then, evening rush hour was over so we went thru with no slow
downs. We've been on the leading edge of the evening (mid afternoon)
rush hour and moved right along but the evening time was even ssmoother sailing. We'd stopped for a later supper about an hour outside the city,
gave the traffic time to clear.

If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow

No harder than when we were chirrun - especiallly if you're pre-TV as
I wss.

We got our first tv when I was 9 years old. Parents didn't listen to
radio except in the morning to get latest news/school closings/etc. I
don't really remember what we did pre tv, probably read a lot of books.
I'll still turn off the tv and grab a book most nights.

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

The yappies are why the techs had to make a return visit. The cable
they ate was in their yard, not mine. The fur kids we are boarding are much too well behaved to ever do something like nthat. Bv)=

Hopefully they learned that cable doesn't taste good and there will not
be a repeat experience.

Dunno, They're little scutters. Pomeranian/Pekinese size Whereas the smallest here is a blue-tick beagle. . Hopefully AT&T buried the cable deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep down.

8<----- +++++----->8

If you don't sk questions you don't get asnswers. I put Dr. Pepper at (about) #8 on my soft drinks list. And cream soda even lower. But the combination .... WOW! Right up there with Coke Zero.

I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try
the combination tho.

My first go was when somoene handed me a bottle and I took a drink
withut paying attention - until it hit my mouth.

I'll ask what it is before drinking.

This was a relatively stick-in-the-mud typre event with no reasone to
exoect something n the "gotcha" category. But it sure go my attention.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
bank. I was

They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same
size/weight as the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about
1/3 of a US cent. Las Vegas slot machines were flooded with them until
the US mob had a meeting with the Mexican mob - who then got the
Mexican gummint to "re-design" their nickel so it wouldn't fool US
coin mechanisms.

In Steve's case, he got more Korean and European coinage.

All Ihave left of "odd" coinage is (if I remember where I put them) some Loonies and Teonies (Canadian dollar/two dollar coins.

As they say "A pint's a pound, the world around." What we need is a
good five-cent nicklel.

Now more than ever, now that the penny is going away.

One of the lacals here quit doing pennies a could years ago. Roundibng each transaction to the neareast nickel. And not doing paper dollarsa.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

Memphis is sorta/kinda like Hot-lanta. I take the run-around roads and don't try going right through. Generally quicker and less flustrating.

Best experience we had driving thru Atlanta was one January night,
about 8 pm. By then, evening rush hour was over so we went thru with no slow downs. We've been on the leading edge of the evening (mid
afternoon) rush hour and moved right along but the evening time was
even ssmoother sailing. We'd stopped for a later supper about an hour outside the city, gave the traffic time to clear.

When I was trailer trucking the big rigs were not allowed "downtown" unless there was a bill of lading for a local address.

If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow

No harder than when we were chirrun - especiallly if you're pre-TV as
I wss.

We got our first tv when I was 9 years old. Parents didn't listen to
radio except in the morning to get latest news/school closings/etc. I don't really remember what we did pre tv, probably read a lot of books. I'll still turn off the tv and grab a book most nights.

We got our 1st TV when I was 10 - do 1952. It got two stations since the
UHF band was but a glimmer in Lee DeForrest's eyes.

I remember when my dad came home with a 17" table-top TV and it was the
"cutting edge" of technology. Heck, my confuser's monitor on this unit
is 27" And Dennis is usig the 45" boob tube in the front room as a monitor.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Farm Monitor's Pressed Italian Picnic Sandwich
Categories: Breads, Pork, Beef, Cheese, Vegetables
Yield: 4 servings

1/4 c Olive oil
3 tb Balsamic vinegar
1 ts Dijon mustard
1/4 ts Black pepper; to taste
1/4 c Prepared pesto
1 Loaf Ciabatta bread
1/4 lb Sliced provolone cheese
1/2 lb Salami
1/2 lb Sliced ham
1/4 lb Sliced pepperoni
1 lb Fresh mozzarella; sliced
1/2 c Roasted red peppers; sliced

Combine olive oil, vinegar, pesto and pepper.

Cut bread in half, spread oil mixture evenly on both
cut sides.

Layer provolone and remaining ingredients in order
listed.

Tightly wrap sandwich in plastic wrap, place a heavy
object such a heavy frying pan in top of the sandwich,
refrigerate overnight.

Slice sandwich into serving sizes and wrap in deli paper
to serve.

RECIPE FROM: https://www.farm-monitor.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

MMMMM

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Hi Dave,

The yappies are why the techs had to make a return visit. The cable

Hopefully they learned that cable doesn't taste good and there will not
be a repeat experience.

Dunno, They're little scutters. Pomeranian/Pekinese size Whereas the smallest here is a blue-tick beagle. . Hopefully AT&T buried the cable deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep down.

Let's hope so. (G) We had a Bichon Frise for a while, about the same
size as the Pom/Peke's but much better behaved. She did chew one of the
rockers on my rocking chair when she was small but it was only slightly damaged--enough to remember her by.

8<----- +++++----->8

I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try
the combination tho.

My first go was when somoene handed me a bottle and I took a drink
withut paying attention - until it hit my mouth.

I'll ask what it is before drinking.

This was a relatively stick-in-the-mud typre event with no reasone to exoect something n the "gotcha" category. But it sure go my attention.

I still try to peruse the available drinks or ask if offered one, what
it is. Did find out that Olive Garden has raspberry diet Coke when we
went there for lunch on Tuesday. I'm wondering if this means it will be
back as a choice in the "pick your own flavor" machines.

I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
bank. I was

They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same
size/weight as the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about

In Steve's case, he got more Korean and European coinage.

All Ihave left of "odd" coinage is (if I remember where I put them)
some Loonies and Teonies (Canadian dollar/two dollar coins.

I don't have any of them but do have an assortment of European countries coinage as we were stationed in Germany pre EU. I've got a few Canadian pennies, Mexican pesoes, various Asian coinage, also some Polish paper
money.

As they say "A pint's a pound, the world around." What we need is

a DD> good five-cent nicklel.

Now more than ever, now that the penny is going away.

One of the lacals here quit doing pennies a could years ago. Roundibng each transaction to the neareast nickel. And not doing paper dollarsa.

When we were stationed in Germany, both the (American) post office and
bank on post dealt with pennies, all other facilities rounded to the
nearest nickel. IIRC, I rolled maybe a dollar or so in pennies over the
almost 6 years we were over there.

8<----- SNYP ----->8

Memphis is sorta/kinda like Hot-lanta. I take the run-around roads and don't try going right through. Generally quicker and less flustrating.

Best experience we had driving thru Atlanta was one January night,
about 8 pm. By then, evening rush hour was over so we went thru with no slow downs. We've been on the leading edge of the evening (mid
afternoon) rush hour and moved right along but the evening time was
even smoother sailing. We'd stopped for a later supper about an hour outside the city, gave the traffic time to clear.

When I was trailer trucking the big rigs were not allowed "downtown" unless there was a bill of lading for a local address.

We were either going thru with just our vehicle (car or truck) or
vehicle plus camper; the January trip was with the camper. We'd been out
west to visit our girls for Christmas, came home the southern route so
we could visit some friends in Alabama along the way. Also avoided any
storms going thru the central or northern part of the country. (G)

No harder than when we were chirrun - especiallly if you're pre-TV as
I wss.

We got our first tv when I was 9 years old. Parents didn't listen to
radio except in the morning to get latest news/school closings/etc. I don't really remember what we did pre tv, probably read a lot of books. I'll still turn off the tv and grab a book most nights.

We got our 1st TV when I was 10 - do 1952. It got two stations since
the UHF band was but a glimmer in Lee DeForrest's eyes.

We got our first one in the early 60s, maybe a year or so (don't
remember exactly) before the JFK assassination. Only got one station for
the first few years, then only 2 until I was in college & the local
cable guy talked my parents into hooking into a system that gave them a
lot of NYC channels. Later on, he tied one in a local (60 miles away)
station so folks could have local news/weather.

I remember when my dad came home with a 17" table-top TV and it was
the "cutting edge" of technology. Heck, my confuser's monitor on

this DD> unit is 27" And Dennis is usig the 45" boob tube in the front
room as DD> a monitor.

Steve used our only tv as a monitor for his C-64 for the first year or
so. I'd ask him to be done so I could catch news/weather at 10; he'd say
"OK" but Johnny Carson would be almost over before he'd quit. After a 3
month TDY, he used some of the pay saved from that to get a proper
monitor.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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