• Re: Extra Sweet

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Nov 8 05:50:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    You disappeared off the board for a few days, got me wondering if all
    was OK. Good to see you back.

    I've just graduaated from "The dog ate my homewoek" to "The dogs atee my internet". Bv)=

    Or stock up on Mexican Coke or KFP Coke. (G)

    That's the sweet part (pun intended) I won't have to play Joe Friday
    and track down the Mexican or Jewish stuff.

    Easier to find in some places or times of year than others. When we
    were in AZ, we weren't too far from the border. I went over once, with some friends (had been over the border in TX in the 80s) for some
    shopping (not for Coke). Downside of living that close was the problem with illeagals; had some friends in law enforcement that had been shot
    at.

    That's why the nabs carry guns - so they can shoot back.

    Got that one right! Seemed like every other day there was an article in the newspaper or story on tv news of what illeagals had done.

    Which is how the media work. "Good news" does not sell papers/get clicks/
    have people tune-in. What they peddle (no matter their political leaning
    is the lyric from the old Hee-Haw3 song "gollm, despair, agny on me. Deep
    dark depression, excessive misery". Bv)=

    Sadlt, there is *always* something to vie with alarm.

    I did discover a Dr. Pepper product Iquite like,mthough. Sugar free
    Pwppwe mixed with Cream Soda. Apparently other like it as well
    ****** ?????

    Fat fingers. should have been Pepper

    OK, I know there's a new brand out called Poppie so wasn't sure if you were referring to that or not.

    If you don't sk questions you don't get asnswers. I put Dr. Pepper at
    (about) #8 on my soft drinks list. And cream soda even lower. But the combination .... WOW! Right up there with Coke Zero.

    becaouse it's hard to find it not store shelves. Bv)=

    May be more available in some stores/areas than others.

    I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
    partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
    that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
    bank. I was
    working in a gas station/c-store when Pepsi One was introduced. We
    sold out to bare shelves within two days after a delivery. And we
    could NOT get the bozo driver to leave more.

    They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
    the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
    who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

    The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same size/weight as
    the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about 1/3 of a US cent. Las Vegas slot machines were flooded with them until the US mob had a meeting with the Mexican mob - who then got the Mexican gummint to "re-design" their nickel so it wouldn't fool US coin mechanisms.

    8<----- SNYP ----->8

    Saw Dr. Nutt (nephrologist) yeaterday and was informed my kidneys are doing well, told to keep on with the Lasix and "see me in six mon
    ths". I like that he's assuming I'll be available in six months. Bv)=

    You're planning to stick around, I presume. (G)

    Well, yeah. I'm reaqy if it happens. Dennis gets the house as long as
    he wants until he go into "other" (assisted living/sheltered care/etc) quarters at which time it goes to Habitat For Humanity to do with as
    they will. It's only fair. Other than my bed all the furniture, lamps,
    etc came from there.

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We'll probably have our girls sell this house and donate stuff to ReStore. My brother left his house to us 4 siblings; Steve and I had just bought our house and didn't want to deal with 1/4 house in Florida so sold back our share ASAP.

    Any money left in my accounts goes (split equally) between St.
    Jude's DD> in Memphis and the Shriner's Cripplped Childrens'
    Hospitals.

    Both good causes.

    I was in the Navy, stationed at NAS Memphis when Danny Thomas broke
    ground for St. Jude's. He done good.

    No, and there have been times, even with it, that have been close
    calls. Worst time without the camper (but just made it safely) was one

    And people wonder why I wear black slacks/workm pants. Bv)= No
    spreading stain to give me away.

    (G)

    What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

    Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
    when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made
    for him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

    If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
    getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
    did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

    We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow
    the story with road noise. Music or talk radio works better.

    I bet it's harder to follow the chin music (which can be a good thing) than the instrumental music.

    Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They RH>
    advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the RH>
    Area!". RH> We DD> both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of

    Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
    and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
    Morrocaan, etc. to pick from.

    We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
    area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
    classify as European.

    I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
    from

    My favourite Greek soup:

    We do talk a lot, don't we? 'nother Greek favourite:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Byzantine Dolmathes (Stuffed Grape Leaves)
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetables, Rice, Nuts, Wine
    Yield: 60 Servings

    1 Jar grapeleaves; or fresh

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    2 tb Oil
    1 lb Ground lamb or beef
    2 md Onions; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; pressed
    2 c Water
    1/2 c Tomato sauce
    1 c Rice
    2 tb Chopped mint
    2 tb Chopped parsley
    1/2 ts Salt
    Pepper
    1/8 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 c Currants
    1/4 c Port wine
    1/4 c Pine nuts or walnuts
    2 c Water
    1 Lemon; juice only

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    3 lg Eggs
    2 Lemons; strained juice only
    1 c Hot broth

    If using canned grape leaves, rinse off brine by floating
    leaves in a basin of cold water. Prepare fresh vine leaves
    by pouring a cup of boiling water over them in a bowl.
    Drain. Spread 5 or 6 leaves out at a time on a flat surface.
    Lay leaf stem side up. Snip off stem with kitchen shears.

    MAKE FILLING: Heat oil in large frying pan. Fry meat, onions
    and garlic on medium heat for 5 minutes, mixing it as it
    cooks. Add water and remaining ingredients. Bring to a boil.
    Cover. Reduce heat to simmer and cook 10 minutes, until
    water is absorbed. Set aside until cool enough to handle.
    Put 1 teaspoon of filling near stem. Bring left side of leaf
    towards center, then bring right side towards center. They
    will not always meet. Pick up stem end of leaf, tucking in
    the filling. Roll away from you. It will be an oblong roll
    like a sausage.

    Line the bottom of a large skillet with 4 leaves. Place each
    roll so that the tucked under end is on the bottom. Arrange
    each roll snugly, one next to the other, until all the
    leaves (except 3), and filling are gone. Place these leaves
    flat on top of rolls. Place a flat dish on top of rolls also
    to prevent their unravelling during cooking.

    Add water and lemon juice. Bring to a boil. Cover. Reduce
    heat to simmer and cook 45 minutes. When done, remove pot
    from fire. Make Egg and Lemon Sauce and add to broth
    immediately or serve without sauce either cold as an
    appetizer or as a hot entree.

    EGG AND LEMON SAUCE: Beat eggs until thick and light yellow,
    at least 5 minutes, with an electric beater or 10 to 15
    minutes by hand. Add juice slowly, beating all the while.
    Mix 1 cup hot broth into beaten eggs, stirring it in quickly
    with spoon (or wire whisk) so heat will not curdle the eggs.
    Cook over very low heat until thickened.

    From: "The Complete Greek Cookbook" by Theresa Karas
    Yianilos. Avenel Books, New York.

    Typed for you by Karen Mintzias

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... Bakers Strike! Demand more dough!
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Nov 8 09:15:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    the local Star 66 truck stop restaurant .... Spanakopita, gyros,
    sometimes (rarely) moussaka. But never avgolemono.

    We've got some down in Raleigh but usually don't go down there just for
    a meal unless it's a special occaision. If we're down there, we'll get something, sometimes fast food, sometimes more upscale. Yesterday was Steve's birthday so we went to the local Texas Roadhouse. I also made a pumpkin roll; that's been his birthday cake ever since his mom gave me
    the recipe in 1992.

    This is my other favourite Greek speciality - especially when someone
    else is making it. Bv)=

    Title: Moussaka - Part One
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Cheese, Potatoes, Casseroles, Sauces
    Yield: 8 Servings

    I've eaten it different times but not (yet) tried making it. It may be like some things, enjoy it when somebody else has taken the time/effort
    to make it.

    It's sorta/kinda like a Greek lasagne using potatoes/eggplant for the pasta sheets. I will note, too, that nat all moussaka uses bechamel. I've had some very tasty moussaka made with red gravy.

    I've made this recipe - once only - and it was quite tasty. Almost converted
    me to red moussaka. I'dgladly eat it if someone else made it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: A.T.K. Moussaka
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs, Sauces
    Yield: 8 servings

    3 1/2 lb Eggplant; in 3/4" cubes
    1/2 c + 2 ts + 3 tb EVOO; divided
    2 ts Table salt; divided
    3/4 ts Pepper; divided
    1 1/2 lb Yukon Gold potatoes; peel on
    - sliced crosswise 1/4"

    MMMMM------------------------MEAT SAUCE------------------------------
    1 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    1 lg Onion; chopped fine
    1/2 ts Table salt
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 tb Tomato paste
    1/2 c Dry red wine
    2 ts Paprika
    2 ts Dried oregano
    1/2 ts Red pepper flakes
    1/4 ts Ground cinnamon
    1 lb Ground chuck beef
    14 1/2 oz Can crushed tomatoes
    2 ts Red wine vinegar

    MMMMM-------------------------BECHAMEL-------------------------------
    6 tb unsalted butter
    1/2 c A-P flour
    2 1/2 c Whole milk
    4 oz Kasseri cheese; shredded
    1/4 ts Table salt
    1/8 ts Ground nutmeg
    3 lg Egg yolks; lightly beaten

    FOR THE VEGETABLES: Adjust oven racks to middle and
    lower-middle positions and heat oven to 450ºF/232ºC.
    Line 2 rimmed baking sheets with aluminum foil and spray
    with vegetable oil spray. Divide eggplant evenly among
    prepared sheets. Toss each batch with 1/4 cup oil, 1/2
    teaspoon salt, and 1/4 teaspoon pepper until evenly
    coated, and spread eggplant into single layer. Roast
    until eggplant is softened and lightly browned, about 30
    minutes, switching and rotating sheets halfway through
    roasting. Transfer sheets to wire racks to cool. Reduce
    oven temperature to 400ºF/205ºC.

    While eggplant roasts, grease 13" X 9" baking dish with
    2 teaspoons oil. In medium bowl, toss potatoes with
    remaining 3 tablespoons oil, 1 teaspoon salt, and 1/4
    teaspoon pepper. Cover and microwave until potatoes can
    be easily pierced with tip of paring knife, 8 to 10
    minutes, stirring halfway through microwaving. Transfer
    potatoes, along with any accumulated liquid, to prepared
    dish and let rest until cool enough to handle, about 15
    minutes. Shingle evenly in dish.

    FOR THE MEAT SAUCE: Heat oil in Dutch oven over medium
    heat until shimmering. Add onion and salt and cook,
    stirring occasionally, until just starting to brown, 6
    to 8 minutes. Add garlic and stir constantly until
    fragrant, about 1 minute. Add tomato paste and cook,
    stirring frequently, until paste darkens, about 2
    minutes. Stir in wine, scraping up any browned bits from
    bottom of pot. Add paprika, oregano, pepper flakes, and
    cinnamon and cook, stirring frequently, until wine is
    almost completely evaporated, 2 to 3 minutes. Add beef;
    increase heat to medium-high; and cook, breaking up meat
    with wooden spoon, until no pink remains, 4 to 5
    minutes. Add tomatoes and cook, stirring occasionally,
    until liquid has almost completely evaporated and spoon
    leaves trail when dragged through sauce, 6 to 8 minutes.
    Stir in vinegar, cover, and remove from heat.

    FOR THE BÉCHAMEL: Melt butter in medium saucepan over
    medium heat. Whisk in flour and cook until golden, about
    one minute. Slowly whisk in milk and cook, whisking
    constantly, until mixture is thick, smooth, and comes to
    boil, about 5 minutes. Off heat, whisk in kasseri, salt,
    and nutmeg. Cover and let stand for 5 minutes. Whisk in
    egg yolks and cover to keep warm.

    Cover potatoes with eggplant, lightly pressing into even
    layer. Spread meat sauce in even layer over eggplant.
    Top with béchamel. Place dish on rimmed baking sheet and
    bake on middle rack until top of moussaka is deeply
    browned in spots and is bubbling at edges, about 30
    minutes. Let cool for 30 minutes before serving.

    By: Steve Dunn

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.americastestkitchen.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... Americans will put up with anything provided it doesn't block traffic.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)
  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Nov 11 08:31:28 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    You disappeared off the board for a few days, got me wondering if all
    was OK. Good to see you back.

    I've just graduaated from "The dog ate my homewoek" to "The dogs atee
    my internet". Bv)=

    I've had those times, glad I have a resident computer guru/geek on premisis. (G)

    The yappies are why the techs had to make a return visit. The cable they
    ate was in their yard, not mine. The fur kids we are boarding are much
    too well behaved to ever do something like nthat. Bv)=

    8<----- +++++----->8

    Which is how the media work. "Good news" does not sell papers/get
    clicks/ have people tune-in. What they peddle (no matter their
    political leaning is the lyric from the old Hee-Haw3 song "gollm,
    despair, agny on me. Deep dark depression, excessive misery". Bv)=

    I remember that one, and the phrase "If it bleeds, it leads" which is
    so often true in all forms of media.

    Sadly, there is *always* something to view with alarm.

    All too true.

    I hated it when something I had been "viewing with alarm" that was not 'sensational' became headline material and I could say, smugly, "See,
    I told you...." But, Istill said it. Bv)=

    8<----- ELIDE ----->8

    If you don't sk questions you don't get asnswers. I put Dr. Pepper at (about) #8 on my soft drinks list. And cream soda even lower. But the combination .... WOW! Right up there with Coke Zero.

    I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try
    the combination tho.

    My first go was when somoene handed me a bottle and I took a drink withut paying attention - until it hit my mouth.

    I don't understand how soda route drivers think. Their pay is based
    partly on how much "profuct" they move. If I was delivering a product
    that sold out every week I'd leave more and smile all the way to the
    bank. I was

    They're not all like that. Steve's last civilian job before he went in
    the Army was filling soda machines at Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point. He had an established route, don't know how often he had to fill specific machines. Came home with some interesting coins from Marines
    who tried scamming the machines--he would replace them with quarters of his own and the odd ones got added to an informal coin collection.

    The Mexican cinco centavo (nickle) coin used to was the same
    size/weight as the US 25c coin (quarter) but worth (in exchange) about
    1/3 of a US cent. Las Vegas slot machines were flooded with them until
    the US mob had a meeting with the Mexican mob - who then got the
    Mexican gummint to "re-design" their nickel so it wouldn't fool US
    coin mechanisms.

    In Steve's case, he got more Korean and European coinage.

    As they say "A pint's a pound, the world around." What we need is a good
    five-cent nicklel.

    8<----- SNYP ----->8

    Any money left in my accounts goes (split equally) between St.
    Jude's DD> in Memphis and the Shriner's Cripplped Childrens'
    Hospitals.

    Both good causes.

    I was in the Navy, stationed at NAS Memphis when Danny Thomas broke
    ground for St. Jude's. He done good.

    We've driven by it various times either heading out west or coming back from a western trip. Also seen enough fund raising appeals on
    syndicated tv channels.

    Memphis is sorta/kinda like Hot-lanta. I take the run-around roads and
    don't try going right through. Generally quicker and less flustrating.

    What do you use as a "traffic" radio? Is it part of your GPS or a Sirius/XM channel? Or the good ol' CB radio (if such exists any

    Sirius/XM; had it in the first Escape we bought and have continued with it. Steve likes to listen to talk radio (usually Patriot channel 125)
    when driving, will switch to Bluegrass Junction, No Shoes Radio or Willie's Roadhouse also. Listening to Andrew Wilkow on Patriot Radio intoduced us to Aaron Lewis; at the ham raido get together a couple of weeks ago, grand prize in the raffle was an autographed special made
    for him guitar. No, I didn't win it.

    If I'm not listening to Real Jazz or 40s Junction I can be found
    getting on on what "the Shadow Knows" on old time radio channel. They
    did Orson Welles' 1939 "War Of The Worlds" on 31 October.

    We've listened to old time radio sometimes but it's harder to follow

    No harder than when we were chirrun - especiallly if you're pre-TV as I wss.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Turkey Meatloaf TV Dinner
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Potatoes, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Dinners

    MMMMM--------------------------MEATLOAF-------------------------------
    Cooking spray
    1 1/4 lb Ground turkey
    1 sm Onion; grated
    1/3 c Breadcrumbs
    1 Rib celery; fine chopped
    1 lg Egg; lightly beaten
    1/2 c Ketchup
    1 tb Chopped fresh parsley
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 ts Soy sauce
    1 ts Worcestershire sauce

    MMMMM---------------------------SIDES--------------------------------
    1 1/2 lb Russet potatoes; peeled,
    - quartered
    Salt
    3 tb Butter; romm temp
    1/2 c Milk; hot
    Fresh ground pepper
    12 oz Bag frozen peas
    4 Compartmented trays *

    MAKE THE MEATLOAF: Set the oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Coat a 9" X 5" loaf pan with cooking spray. Put the
    turkey, onion, breadcrumbs, celery, egg, 2 tablespoons
    ketchup, the parsley, 1/2 teaspoon salt, and pepper to
    taste in a bowl. Mix with your hands until just
    combined, then transfer to the prepared pan.

    Combine the remaining 1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons ketchup
    with the soy sauce and Worcestershire sauce in a small
    bowl; spread 2 tablespoons of the ketchup mixture over
    the meatloaf. Bake until the top begins to brown, about
    30 minutes, then spread the remaining ketchup mixture
    over the meatloaf and continue baking until browned.
    Let stand 5 minutes before slicing.

    Meanwhile, make the mashed potatoes. Put the potatoes in
    a large saucepan and cover with cold water; season with
    salt. Bring to a simmer and cook over medium-low heat
    until tender, about 30 minutes. Drain, then return to
    the saucepan and mash with the butter. Add the milk and
    season with salt and pepper; continue mashing until
    fluffy.

    Put the peas in a microwave-safe bowl, sprinkle with
    water and season with salt and pepper. Cover and
    microwave until warmed through, about 4 minutes.

    Serve the meatloaf with the peas and mashed potatoes.

    * https://tinyurl.com/T-V-TRAYZ

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.desktopcookbook.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... A fast has no real nutritional value.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.31-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Nov 11 08:31:28 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    the story with road noise. Music or talk radio works better.

    I bet it's harder to follow the chin music (which can be a good thing) than the instrumental music.

    Most talk radio hosts are pretty understandable. OTOH, some of the
    callers are, shall we say, not so comprehensible, either in their
    speech or ideas,

    Like print newspapers the chatterbox radio hosts are peddling, mostly, controversy. Anything to stir up a good fight.

    The only talk radio I ever lisdtened to (on purpose) w3as the "Weekend Edition's" intallemt of Click & Clack the Tappett Brothers on NPR But,
    that was then and this is now. I'm no longer drivingg those old double clutching, E-faalt trailer trucks for a living. And Click has died.

    Tried a new to us place after church today, Taza Grill. They RH>
    advertise RH> themselves as "The Best Mediterranian Food in the RH>
    Area!". RH> We DD> both had RH> the lamb platter, came with lots of

    Mediterranean gives a wiiiiiiiiide range of cuisines - both European
    and Africn from whiuch to choose. Besides my favourites (Greek and Italian) there is Spanish, French, Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian,
    Morrocaan, etc. to pick from.

    We've liked most all that we've tried; it's the Middle Eastern/Greece
    area I refer to as Mediterranian. Spanish, Italian, French, etc I
    classify as European.

    Yet if you check your map/flobe all of those have coastline on the Med.
    Even the African (Morroco, Tunisia, Egypt, etc.) countries.

    I wish we has a decent Greek restaurant here. I get some Greek dishes
    from

    My favourite Greek soup:

    We do talk a lot, don't we? 'nother Greek favourite:


    Title: Byzantine Dolmathes (Stuffed Grape Leaves)
    Categories: Lamb/mutton, Vegetables, Rice, Nuts, Wine
    Yield: 60 Servings

    We've tried, and liked them. They're available as a side at our
    favorite kebab place. As for talking too much...........just keeping
    tabs on each other, making sure we're both still on the same side of
    the dirt. (G)

    My favourites come from the annual Eaaster doings at St.Anthony's Greek Orthodox church.

    There are two versions in the St. Anthony'scookbook. This is the vegan appetiser version .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grape Leaves Dolmathes
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Rice
    Yield: 5 dozen

    60 Vine leaves; drained,
    - rinsed
    250 g rice (1 cup)
    1 c Olive oil
    2 md Onions; fine chopped
    2 c Warm water (115ºF/46ºC)
    Juice of 2 lemons
    2 tb Dill; chopped
    1/2 c Parsley; chopped
    Salt & pepper

    For this dolmades recipe, you can either use vine leaves
    sold in jars or fresh (if you are lucky enough to find
    them). If you use the ones in jar, rinse the vine
    leaves, remove the stems and leave them in a colander to
    drain. If using fresh vine leaves, wash them thoroughly,
    remove the stems and blanch them in boiling hot water.
    Remove the leaves with a slotted spoon and place them in
    a colander to cool down completely.

    Prepare the filling for the stuffed vine/grape leaves
    (dolmades). Place the rice in a colander and rinse with
    running water. Heat a large saucepan over medium heat,
    add 1/3 of the olive oil and the chopped onions. Sauté
    the onions, until translucent (but not coloured). Add
    the rice and sauté for 1 more minute. Pour in 2 cups of
    warm water and half lemon juice and simmer for about 7
    minutes, until the rice absorbs all the water and is
    parboiled. Season with salt and pepper, stir in the
    herbs, remove from the stove and set aside to cool down
    for a while. This will be the filling for the dolmades.

    Layer the bottom of a large pot with some vine leaves
    (use the ones that are little bit torn) and start
    rolling the dolmadakia. (This is probably the most
    difficult part of the traditional dolmades recipe).
    Place one vine leaf (shiny side down) on a flat surface
    and add 1 tsp of the filling at the bottom end (stem).
    Be careful not to overfill the dolmades, as the rice
    will expand during cooking. Fold the lower section of
    the leaf over the filling towards the center; bring the
    two sides in towards the center and roll them up
    tightly. Place the stuffed vine leaves (fold side down)
    on the bottom of the pot and top in snugly layers. Be
    careful not to leave any gaps between the dolmades to
    prevent them from cracking open when cooking.

    Drizzle the stuffed vine leaves (dolmathes) with the
    rest of the olive oil and lemon juice and season with
    salt and pepper. Place an inverted plate on top to hold
    them down when cooking and pour in enough water just to
    cover them. Place the lid on and simmer the dolmades for
    about 30-40 minutes, until the water has been absorbed
    and the dolmades remain only with the oil.

    Remove the pot from the heat, remove the lid and plate
    and let the dolmades cool for at least 30 minutes.

    Serve this delicious Greek appetizer cold or at room
    temperature with a squeeze of a lemon. Give this
    traditional dolmades recipe a try and enjoy your own
    fresh homemade stuffed grape leaves (dolmades)!

    Author: Eli K. Giannopoulos

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.stanthony.il.goarch.org/

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... What do you take me for, a Sushi-Buffet eater?
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.31-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 11 16:35:53 2025
    Hi Sean,


    Most talk radio hosts are pretty understandable. OTOH, some of the
    callers are, shall we say, not so comprehensible, either in their
    speech or ideas,

    Reminds me of Coast To Coast AM, originally with Art Bell who sadly
    passed away, and now with George Noory. Some of the stuff that is discussed is way, way out there.

    I remember listening to some of them when we first lived in NC and Steve
    drove all night to get to NY. Some of them were really nut cases. We
    also carried a box of cassette tapes for the player when there was
    nothing good (or available) on the radio. I would stay awake on those
    drives to keep Steve company/feed him coffee, snacks etc while the girls
    slept. When we got to family (usually his) the next morning, he would
    crash and the girls would be wide awake for the day. I'd have the "fun"
    of parenting while asleep on my feet, nothing really new, just a change
    in environments.


    Title: Sean's Salmon Patties
    Categories: Main dish, Fish, Seandennis
    Yield: 4 Servings

    I was going to make those the other day but left overs took precidence.
    Went out for Sunday dinner so last night we had left overs from that,
    out to Olive Garden for Veteran's Day meal so it looks like it may be
    Friday before we do the salmon patties since we once again have left
    overs. (G)

    1 Can (14 3/4 oz) salmon
    4 oz Saltines, finely crushed
    2 tb Onion flakes
    2 Eggs
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 ts Black pepper
    Oil or butter for frying

    I usually use bread crumbs instead of crackers, lemon juice only if I
    have it. Fried potatoes are the usual side.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Myth #1: The computer only does what you tell it to do.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Nov 15 08:46:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I like cream soda; I do not like Dr. Pepper. I'll probably never try
    the combination tho.

    My first go was when somoene handed me a bottle and I took a drink
    withut paying attention - until it hit my mouth.

    I'll ask what it is before drinking.

    This was a relatively stick-in-the-mud typre event with no reasone to exoect something n the "gotcha" category. But it sure go my attention.

    I still try to peruse the available drinks or ask if offered one, what
    it is. Did find out that Olive Garden has raspberry diet Coke when we
    went there for lunch on Tuesday. I'm wondering if this means it will be back as a choice in the "pick your own flavor" machines.

    Once in a while I get surprised by something I didn't/wouldn't have asked
    for and am made a convert to some degree. But not often.

    8<----- CLIP ----->8

    All Ihave left of "odd" coinage is (if I remember where I put them)
    some Loonies and Teonies (Canadian dollar/two dollar coins.

    I don't have any of them but do have an assortment of European
    countries coinage as we were stationed in Germany pre EU. I've got a
    few Canadian pennies, Mexican pesoes, various Asian coinage, also some Polish paper money.

    I have a couple of Russian 10 rubble nots somewhere in all of my plunder.
    when I last looked they were worth about 8c/Americn .....

    As they say "A pint's a pound, the world around." What we need is
    a good five-cent nicklel.

    Now more than ever, now that the penny is going away.

    It will be a while before they disppear. But they have quit making new ones.

    One of the lacals here quit doing pennies a could years ago. Roundibng each transaction to the neareast nickel. And not doing paper dollarsa.

    When we were stationed in Germany, both the (American) post office and bank on post dealt with pennies, all other facilities rounded to the nearest nickel. IIRC, I rolled maybe a dollar or so in pennies over the almost 6 years we were over there.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Falscher Hase
    Categories: Beef, Meatloaf, Pork
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/2 lb Ground Beef; lean
    1/2 lb Ground Pork; lean
    1 md Onion; chopped
    3 tb Bread Crumbs
    3 tb Water; cold
    2 lg Eggs
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 ts Paprika
    1 ts Prepared mustard
    2 tb Parsley; Chopped
    3 lg Hard cooked eggs; peeled
    4 sl Bacon
    4 tb Oil
    1 c Beef Broth

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1/4 c Water; Hot
    1/4 c Water
    1 ts Cornstarch
    1/2 c Sour Cream

    Thoroughly mix ground meats, onion, bread crumbs, 3 Tb cold water, and
    eggs. Flavor w/salt, praprika, mustard, & parsley. Blend ingredients
    thoroughly.

    Flatten out meat mixture in the shape of a square, (8" X 8"). Arrange
    whole hard-boiled eggs in a row along the middle of the meat. Fold
    sides of meat pattie over the eggs. Shape meat carefully into a loaf
    resembling a flat bread loaf.

    Occasionally rinse hands in cold water to prevent sticking.

    Cube 2 strips bacon; cook in a Dutch oven about 2 minutes. Carefully
    add the oil; heat. Place meatloaf in the Dutch oven and cook until
    browned on all sides. Cut remaining bacon strips in half and arrange
    over the top of the meatloaf.

    Place uncovered Dutch oven in a preheated oven for about 45 minutes.
    While meat is baking, gradually pour hot beef broth over the top of
    the meatloaf; brush occasionally with pan dripping.

    When done remove meat to a preheated platter and keep it warm. Add
    1/4 cup of hot water to pan and scrape all gribbens from the bottom.
    Bring to a gentle boil and add cornstarch that has been mixed with
    1/4 cup water. Cook until bubbly and thick.

    Remove from heat and stir in sour cream. Reheat to warm. Season
    w/salt and pepper if desired.

    Serve the sauce separately.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... Add a Flintstones vitamin for a completely nutritious breakfast.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 16 17:40:55 2025
    Hi Dave,


    This was a relatively stick-in-the-mud typre event with no reasone to exoect something n the "gotcha" category. But it sure go my attention.

    I still try to peruse the available drinks or ask if offered one, what
    it is. Did find out that Olive Garden has raspberry diet Coke when we
    went there for lunch on Tuesday. I'm wondering if this means it will be back as a choice in the "pick your own flavor" machines.

    Once in a while I get surprised by something I didn't/wouldn't have
    asked for and am made a convert to some degree. But not often.

    I know, when we were in Kentucky for an RV rally in 2018, at the pot
    luck supper, there was an assortment of drinks. I told Steve to get me something so he came back with Ale 8 One, diet (now Ale 8 Zero). That
    was good, so we took home a box of 12. Got another box on our way home
    from a western trip some years later, most recently one of the couple in
    our neighborhood gave me a couple of boxes (We tend their dog on some of
    their trips.) after a trip back to see family.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 17 14:13:35 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know, when we were in Kentucky for an RV rally in 2018, at the pot
    luck supper, there was an assortment of drinks. I told Steve to get me something so he came back with Ale 8 One, diet (now Ale 8 Zero). That
    was good, so we took home a box of 12. Got another box on our way home from a western trip some years later, most recently one of the couple
    in our neighborhood gave me a couple of boxes (We tend their dog on
    some of their trips.) after a trip back to see family.

    I've seen Ale 8 at my local Kroger and Walmart stores. Walmart has
    recently really stripped the amount of choice in their soda offerings
    so I prefer to go to Kroger to get soda (Kroger's house-brand soda is
    much cheaper and just as good, if not better, than brand-name soda)
    these days. They even have Diet RC (RC is my favorita cola) and they're
    the only ones who have it in my area.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Coca-Cola Pot Roast
    Categories: Meat, Crockpot
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lb Beef
    2 tb Oil
    1 cn Tomatoes
    1 c Coca-Cola
    1 ea Onions, chopped
    1 pk Spaghetti sauce mix
    1 1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Garlic salt

    Brown meat in oil for ten minutes on each side; remove to crockpot.
    Drain fat. Break up tomatoes in their juice; add remaining
    ingredients, stirring until spaghetti sauce mix is dissolved. Pour
    over meat. Cover; simmer until meat is tender, about 6-10 hours on
    low Thicken gravy; serve over sliced meat.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of widths.
    --- MultiMail/Win
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tue Nov 18 09:54:54 2025
    I know, when we were in Kentucky for an RV rally in 2018, at the pot
    luck supper, there was an assortment of drinks. I told Steve to get me something so he came back with Ale 8 One, diet (now Ale 8 Zero). That
    was good, so we took home a box of 12. Got another box on our way home
    from a western trip some years later, most recently one of the couple in
    our neighborhood gave me a couple of boxes (We tend their dog on some of their trips.) after a trip back to see family.

    LOL, I am enjoying an Ale 8 right now... non-diet. ;) I just opened it
    and then opened this message.

    Mike

    * SLMR 2.1a * This message written with recycled electrons.
    --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux
    * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 18 14:18:15 2025
    Hi Sean,


    I know, when we were in Kentucky for an RV rally in 2018, at the pot
    luck supper, there was an assortment of drinks. I told Steve to get me something so he came back with Ale 8 One, diet (now Ale 8 Zero). That
    was good, so we took home a box of 12. Got another box on our way home from a western trip some years later, most recently one of the couple
    in our neighborhood gave me a couple of boxes (We tend their dog on
    some of their trips.) after a trip back to see family.

    I've seen Ale 8 at my local Kroger and Walmart stores. Walmart has recently really stripped the amount of choice in their soda offerings
    so I prefer to go to Kroger to get soda (Kroger's house-brand soda is
    much cheaper and just as good, if not better, than brand-name soda)
    these days. They even have Diet RC (RC is my favorita cola) and
    they're the only ones who have it in my area.

    I should have looked for it when we were out in Pidgeon Forge last year.
    (G) First couple of days were nice and sunny, then, Tuesday night as we gathered for supper, the first rains of Helene hit us. It was still
    raining Thursday when we pulled out about noon, hitting eastbound I-40
    about an hour later. Less than 24 hours later, that part of I-40 was in
    the river.

    I've not had an RC cola in decades as either Coke or pepsi is a lot more available across the country. I'll have to see if it's available locally
    and if so, give the diet version a try. I prefer diet Coke; diet pepsi
    seems to be just a bit sweeter but I'll drink it from time to time if
    Coke isn't available. Since pepsi is a NC product (developed in New
    Bern), it is a lot more popular in the state, especially at big name events/venues.

    ... I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of widths.

    Cute (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Our necessities are few but our wants are endless...

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)
  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Tue Nov 18 14:28:16 2025
    Hi Mike,

    I know, when we were in Kentucky for an RV rally in 2018, at the pot luck supper, there was an assortment of drinks. I told Steve to get
    me > something so he came back with Ale 8 One, diet (now Ale 8 Zero).
    That > was good, so we took home a box of 12. Got another box on our
    way home > from a western trip some years later, most recently one of
    the couple in > our neighborhood gave me a couple of boxes (We tend
    their dog on some of > their trips.) after a trip back to see family.

    LOL, I am enjoying an Ale 8 right now... non-diet. ;) I just opened
    it and then opened this message.

    I'd never heard of it until we went to that rally. It quickly became a
    favorite but since we can't get it in NC, I drink diet Coke for the most
    part. Yes, the non diet would be nice but I keep my blood glucose in
    better check by drinking the diet version. In theory, I'm diabetic but
    I keep it well controlled by diet alone. Most of the time my carbonated
    drink of choice is sparkling water; I might have a soda maybe once a
    week/10 days.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... You learn something useless every day.

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)