• 2024 FTSC Standing Member Election - Voting Status

    From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to All on Thu Mar 21 01:38:43 2024
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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
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    Ballots Received
    ----------------

    RC18
    RC34
    RC19
    RC25
    RC33
    RC29
    RC50
    RC40

    Ballots must be submitted by 20:00 UTC on Sunday, 31 March 2024.

    Regards,

    Andrew
    FTSC Election Coordinator

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Andrew Leary on Fri Mar 22 01:21:39 2024
    Hi, Andrew -- on Mar 21 2024 at 01:38, you wrote:

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
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    Yes for Rob, please.

    Cheers... Dallas
    R17C

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Andrew Leary on Mon Mar 25 08:26:35 2024
    Hi, Andrew -- on Mar 21 2024 at 01:38, you wrote:

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
    ----------------------------------------------

    Region 17 Votes Yes for Rob

    Cheers... Dallas
    RC17

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Dallas Hinton on Mon Mar 25 19:09:17 2024
    Hello Dallas!

    21 Mar 24 01:21, you wrote to me:

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
    ----------------------------------------------

    Yes for Rob, please.

    Cheers... Dallas
    R17C

    ACK.

    Andrew
    FTSC Election Coordinator

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Andrew Leary on Tue Mar 26 17:33:18 2024
    Andrew,

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
    ----------------------------------------------

    I'm amazed how people don't even read the election rules.

    Several votes could be discarded, while in this case it doesn't really matter, but "what" if it did with the outcome hinging on a single vote ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Tue Mar 26 20:59:19 2024
    I'm amazed how people don't even read the election rules.

    When did the majority of the present coordinators ever bother with stupid little things like rules?

    Several votes could be discarded, while in this case it doesn't really matter, but "what" if it did with the outcome hinging on a single vote ...

    Well, this is just like an election in Russia. Only one single candidate, so who cares anyway?


    --
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Tue Mar 26 21:28:54 2024
    Well, this is just like an election in Russia. Only one single
    candidate, so who cares anyway?

    It's totally different:

    1) There is only one candidate because only one was nominated and no-one has
    been denied participation. You're an RC, you could've nominated;

    2) The single candidate could have been voted away...these things have
    happened in the past ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Tue Mar 26 15:59:00 2024
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    I'm amazed how people don't even read the election rules.

    When did the majority of the present coordinators ever bother
    with stupid little things like rules?

    I'm sure you're including yourself in that majority, right? For example letting your sockpuppet alter-ego post in sysop-only echos?

    Several votes could be discarded, while in this case it doesn't really matter, but "what" if it did with the outcome hinging on a single vote ...

    Well, this is just like an election in Russia. Only one single candidate, so who cares anyway?

    Not the same at all. In this election, a candidate can be *rejected* by
    "no" votes, which is not true in a Russian election.

    So, you're 0-for-2 on this post.



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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Ward Dossche on Tue Mar 26 17:09:56 2024
    Hello Ward!

    26 Mar 24 17:33, you wrote to me:

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    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 7 | |
    ----------------------------------------------

    I'm amazed how people don't even read the election rules.

    Several votes could be discarded, while in this case it doesn't really matter, but "what" if it did with the outcome hinging on a single vote
    ...

    Yes, there were procedures violated on the part of several voters, including one who later corrected himself. I've been personally more concerned with the at least 2 ballots that arrived at 1:320/119 but not at 1:320/219 (until I rescanned the echo from 1:320/119 to 1:320/219.) Apparently either SEEN-BYs are getting 320/219 added where it shouldn't be, or (more likely) there is/are a packet or packets that has/haven't been received by 1:320/219.

    Andrew

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Bj”rn Felten on Tue Mar 26 17:25:15 2024
    Hello Bj”rn!

    26 Mar 24 20:59, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    Well, this is just like an election in Russia. Only one single candidate, so who cares anyway?

    I don't believe this is a correct analogy. The only reason there is just one candidate is that the RCs as a group mostly ignored the call for nominations, both here and via NetMail.

    Andrew

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Björn Felten on Wed Mar 27 03:11:22 2024
    Good ${greeting_time}, Bj”rn!

    26 Mar 2024 20:59:18, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I'm amazed how people don't even read the election rules.
    When did the majority of the present coordinators ever bother with
    stupid little things like rules?
    Several votes could be discarded, while in this case it doesn't
    really matter, but "what" if it did with the outcome hinging on a
    single vote...
    Well, this is just like an election in Russia. Only one single
    candidate, so who cares anyway?

    I guess you are an expert in these matters?


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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Andrew Leary on Tue Mar 26 19:50:14 2024
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 22:25:14 -0400, Andrew Leary -> Bjorn Felten wrote:

    The only reason there is just one candidate is that the RCs as a
    group mostly ignored the call for nominations, both here and via
    NetMail.

    Guilty as charged.

    While Rob is, honestly, probably one of the best candidates for the job, the fact that the _only_ thing the current members of this committee have done since the last election was to shoot down this same candidates' request to add/submit a document of his current practice for others to utilize, makes this entire ordeal completely pointless.

    If he's running to finish what he started, I applaud his efforts. Obviously nobody else is going to do it.

    Not a single spelling or grammar error reported as corrected in at least a couple of elections, either. What is this even still a thing for?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234 to Andrew Leary on Thu Mar 28 18:54:55 2024
    26 Mar 2024 17:09, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I've been personally more
    concerned with the at least 2 ballots that arrived at 1:320/119 but
    not at 1:320/219 (until I rescanned the echo from 1:320/119 to
    1:320/219.) Apparently either SEEN-BYs are getting 320/219 added
    where it shouldn't be, or (more likely) there is/are a packet or
    packets that has/haven't been received by 1:320/219.

    I remember that in last year's election you also had some issue like this...

    Carlos

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carlos Navarro on Thu Mar 28 23:05:28 2024
    I remember that in last year's election you also had some issue like this...

    That seems correct to me.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to All on Fri Mar 29 10:55:08 2024
    ----------------------------------------------
    | Name | Node nr | Yes| No |
    |----------------------|-------------|----|----|
    | Rob Swindell | 1:103/705 | 13 | |
    ----------------------------------------------

    Ballots Received
    ----------------

    RC18
    RC34
    RC19
    RC25
    RC33
    RC29
    RC50
    RC40
    RC24
    RC12
    RC54
    RC17
    RC13
    RC10

    The deadline for RCs to cast their region's ballot is Sunday, 31 March 2024 at 20:00 UTC.

    Andrew
    FTSC Election Coordinator

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