• Re: Government employees

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Dec 22 10:03:43 2024
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I thought this level of CONTROL was more than a bit much.
    It was kinda upsetting and disturbing to realize what just happened.

    Never before has a program been removed from my computer.
    * Without my knowledge.

    Never before has a program been installed as a replacement.
    * Without my knowledge.

    What?

    That's why I moved to Linux 20+ years ago. Microsoft's attitude was "we own the computer you purchased" and I didn't like that.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron L. on Mon Dec 23 06:18:58 2024
    Never before has a program been installed as a replacement.
    * Without my knowledge.

    What?

    That's why I moved to Linux 20+ years ago. Microsoft's attitude was "we own the computer you purchased" and I didn't like that.
    Oh nice what distro? My wife also uses Linux Ubuntu. It's fine for her needs. I would like to use it too but I play World of Warcraft and have been for the past 20 years. I have seen this being played through a WINE
    - a windows eliminator - was my understanding. It was kinda buggy of a process. I might in the future because linux is always improving as it is open-source.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Dec 23 07:12:42 2024
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Oh nice what distro? My wife also uses Linux Ubuntu. It's fine for her needs.

    I started with Mandrake Linux, but that's long gone.

    Today we're using Ubuntu on the main systems. The Raspberry Pis are running Raspian still. I did have Mint on my wife's system, but when it came time to upgrade, it was easier to just use Ubuntu.

    I would like to use it too but I play World of Warcraft and have
    been for the past 20 years. I have seen this being played through a
    WINE - a windows eliminator - was my understanding. It was kinda buggy
    of a process. I might in the future because linux is always improving
    as it is open-source.

    WINE has made a lot of improvements over the years. I'm not a big gamer, so I haven't really kept up.

    But many games now support Linux in some form today.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Mon Dec 23 08:44:00 2024
    A Kaspersky employee also shared an official statement on the company's official forums regarding the forced switch to UltraAV, saying that it "partnered with antivirus provider UltraAV to ensure continued protection for US-based customers that will no longer have access to Kaspersky's
    rotections.

    "Kaspersky has additionally partnered with UltraAV to make the transition to their product as seamless as possible, which is why on 9/19, U.S. Kaspersky antivirus customers received a software update facilitating the transition to UltraAV," it added.

    Wow, so they did that themselves!

    In that case, to answer you question about government machines... many
    business and government agencies have their machines set up to where their
    IT staff have control over the update process. For example, at a company I worked at, we didn't get any Windows Update pester messages about upgrading
    to the next version of Windows. We didn't run Windows Update at all.

    Machines that faced the outside world had to be updated regularly, but most office machines were not updated until the updates were vetted. We
    completely skipped a couple of Windows versions, too, because of security
    or other concerns.

    So, assuming these federal offices are controlling their update processes,
    I am guessing the machines were not pointed directly to Kaspersky to get updates and the forced change to UltraAV didn't happen.


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