• Death row inmates

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Tue Dec 24 08:43:54 2024
    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federal death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has changed their sentences to life in prison.

    It's sickening. Some of these guys are in for murdering children. The victims' families don't appreciate this and neither do I. Who does appreciate it? George Soros?

    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row? Biden decided that those three should still die, but that the other 47 are more deserving of life?

    Are the lefties glad that we have a great president like Biden who slaps crime victims in the face?

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  • From paul lee@1:105/420 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Dec 24 16:48:13 2024
    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federal death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has
    changed their sentences to life in prison.

    Disgusting. A jury found these people guilty and passed down the judgment; I don't think a POTUS should have the ability to do what Biden did.

    That being said - we've allowed them to. Guess more of us should have went into politics because we're here, baby. What a time to be an American! :/



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to paul lee on Tue Dec 24 23:10:00 2024
    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federa death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has changed their sentences to life in prison.

    Disgusting. A jury found these people guilty and passed down the
    judgment; I don't think a POTUS should have the ability to do what Biden did.

    That being said - we've allowed them to. Guess more of us should have
    went into politics because we're here, baby. What a time to be an American! :/

    You're right and I agree that it's the voters' fault, not just Biden's. Retaliating against crime victims is pretty low. I suspect that he did it to appease one of those so-called "social justice" groups. The media here is always crying about "better conditions for jail inmates" while nobody in their right mind actually gives a flying one about jail inmates.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Dec 25 08:51:59 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federal death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has
    changed their sentences to life in prison.

    Remember that their purpose is to wreck society. So he wrecked at least 47 family's Christmas' (probably more with the extended families). And made people feel more uncomfortable with the idea that, at some point, these 47 may be let out.

    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row?

    They vote Republican.

    Are the lefties glad that we have a great president like Biden who
    slaps crime victims in the face?

    But here's my question. Biden is effectively brain dead by now. When was the last time we saw him in person? So I don't belive that Biden is the one doing this. Someone is doing it in his name and using his authority. And that is highly illegal.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Dec 25 16:28:02 2024
    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federa death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has changed their sentences to life in prison.

    Remember that their purpose is to wreck society. So he wrecked at least 47 family's Christmas' (probably more with the extended families). And made people feel more uncomfortable with the idea that, at some point, these 47 may be let out.

    Their desire to disgust has been evident all along. I remember a couple days after Biden "won" the 2020 election he instructed us to "expect less." And that turned out to be the one and only thing that he didn't lie about.

    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row?

    They vote Republican.

    It seems like there's an expectation that "people would be too outraged" if their high-profile crimes (example: "Boston marathon bomber") went unpunished. Plus the three condemned men are caucasian, and Biden has said all along that "white people are the biggest threat to national security."

    Are the lefties glad that we have a great president like Biden who slaps crime victims in the face?

    But here's my question. Biden is effectively brain dead by now. When
    was the last time we saw him in person? So I don't belive that Biden is the one doing this. Someone is doing it in his name and using his authority. And that is highly illegal.

    He's not likely the man who's driving this dumpster fire, but he's not putting his foot down at any point, and he's letting all this stuff happen. There's no point in blaming anyone else, even though we know that our gimp didn't come up with these insane ideas all on his own.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Dec 26 07:09:34 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Their desire to disgust has been evident all along.

    It's all part of wrecking society.

    bomber") went unpunished. Plus the three condemned men are caucasian,
    and Biden has said all along that "white people are the biggest threat
    to national security."

    That's probably the real reason the 3 are still there.

    He's not likely the man who's driving this dumpster fire, but he's not putting his foot down at any point, and he's letting all this stuff happen.

    My point is that he can't put his foot down because he's not aware of anything.

    There's no point in blaming anyone else, even though we know
    that our gimp didn't come up with these insane ideas all on his own.

    Well, we've known that someone's been controlling him from day 1.

    But if we have proof that he's been mentally incompetent since Dec. 1, that makes everything "he" has done after that invalid and the person(s) who claimed that Biden did this, while it was actually them, should be in prison.

    We are also have more than enough evidence that Biden didn't win in 2020. That would make his presidency illigitimate and everything he has done is null and void - including any pardons.

    And now I think we have the reason why the Dems are trying to mess things up so bad before they leave. Let the Trump Administration deal with all these problems so he can't focus on bringing the Elitists to justice.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Thu Dec 26 10:10:08 2024
    He's not likely the man who's driving this dumpster fire, but he's no putting his foot down at any point, and he's letting all this stuff happen.

    My point is that he can't put his foot down because he's not aware of anything.

    That seems true, but I suspect that he really is alert and that he's just an addicted gambler. He's made so many side hustles already, and got away with it, that he'll never stop.

    that our gimp didn't come up with these insane ideas all on his own.

    Well, we've known that someone's been controlling him from day 1.

    Controlling him or colluding with him. One of those.

    But if we have proof that he's been mentally incompetent since Dec. 1, that makes everything "he" has done after that invalid and the person(s) who claimed that Biden did this, while it was actually them, should be
    in prison.

    He sees dead people. That's not proof enough? lol

    We are also have more than enough evidence that Biden didn't win in
    2020. That would make his presidency illigitimate and everything he has done is null and void - including any pardons.

    And now I think we have the reason why the Dems are trying to mess
    things up so bad before they leave. Let the Trump Administration deal with all these problems so he can't focus on bringing the Elitists to justice.

    They're scared. I love that, but it can be dangerous.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to paul lee on Thu Dec 26 10:23:04 2024
    On 24 Dec 2024, paul lee said the following...

    Disgusting. A jury found these people guilty and passed down the
    judgment; I don't think a POTUS should have the ability to do what Biden did.


    After January 19th 2025 you can drop the TU from POTUS for Biden.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron L. on Thu Dec 26 22:39:53 2024
    On 26 Dec 2024, Ron L. said the following...

    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Their desire to disgust has been evident all along.

    It's all part of wrecking society.
    Certainty looks that way from where I sit as well.

    I have stated this since Biden's first few weeks of his administration that he and his administration was going to be a complete train_wreck and a voice from the lunatic left (who has since vanished) and I assume is very much alive but is too much of a coward to show his presence in here, of course I am talking about the "twisted Jeff" He squeaked out "Give him a chance."
    We have all seen what happened next.
    I predicted Biden w/ extreme precision. - Nostradamus? no I am not.
    Then again, I never needed any ceremonial candle_light to foresee what this geriatric fool was about to do to our beloved U.S.A.
    He slammed us all into a wall, while his head on a swivel looking out for every victim he could find and make up, more then a few along the way.
    and his "be unburden by what has been" sidekick. Racist hoe. So cocky and completely out of touch.

    Others who still walk the earth with a heartbeat and head full of gunk - which is the slime and goo that make up liberalism and socialism.
    These folks are just as cowardly not to engage here. They can choose to save themselves from what would be a embarrassment and a close but no cigar type of a conversation.
    Oh rest assured if the election went the other way
    - they would be in here like drones over New Jersey.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Dec 27 07:28:56 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That seems true, but I suspect that he really is alert and that he's
    just an addicted gambler. He's made so many side hustles already, and
    got away with it, that he'll never stop.

    Based on the OMG report, Biden was mentally incompetent from Day 1 of his "presidency". I think if they pump enough drugs into him, he can be coherent for a short period of time, but that's it.

    But this is another "how can we know for sure?" thing. We can only see the gaffs and such that the media can't wipe away.

    Controlling him or colluding with him. One of those.

    Collusion was probably 10 years ago. It's been control ever since.

    They're scared. I love that, but it can be dangerous.

    Exactly. My hope was that many of them would simply go on "vacation" and hide in some country that was friendly to them. But now I realize that no such country exists.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Dec 27 07:28:56 2024
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    I have stated this since Biden's first few weeks of his administration that he and his administration was going to be a complete train_wreck
    and a voice from the lunatic left (who has since vanished) and I assume
    is very much alive but is too much of a coward to show his presence in here, of course I am talking about the "twisted Jeff"

    Ya, I have a nice long list of "twits" here to ignore the post of. It's interesting that we haven't heard from most of them in a long, long time.

    I imagine them in their mother's basement, huddling in a Snuggy, trying to deal with Reality.

    Then again, I never needed any ceremonial candle_light to foresee what this geriatric fool was about to do to our beloved U.S.A.

    Right. No one with any intelligence couldn't see where this was all going to go.

    But we still have people out there who think that Central Planning, Socialism, etc. work.

    Others who still walk the earth with a heartbeat and head full of gunk
    - which is the slime and goo that make up liberalism and socialism.

    See above. But most of them have been conditioned by the "education" system and completely brainwashed. It will take a good amount of therapy for them to function normally again.

    These folks are just as cowardly not to engage here.

    They can't handle Reality. So they certain won't engage any one who will prove that they are wrong.

    cigar type of a conversation. Oh rest assured if the election went the other way - they would be in here like drones over New Jersey.

    Without a doubt.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Dec 27 10:25:00 2024
    The news says that Biden commuted the sentences for 47 (of 50) federal death row inmates. Instead of being sentenced to death, Biden has changed their sentences to life in prison.

    Even my dyed in the wool Democrat father is not happy with this decision.

    It's sickening. Some of these guys are in for murdering children. The
    ictims'
    families don't appreciate this and neither do I. Who does appreciate it?
    eorg
    Soros?

    He campaigned on not allowing Death Sentences to be carried out during his term. I guess the folks who appreciate it are the ones that voted for him
    with that in mind, or that voted for Harris with Trump's promise of
    resuming executions in mind.

    Supposedly, he said it was because X percentage of death row inmates are believed falsely accused. Not sure I believe that.

    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row? Biden decided that those three should still die, but that the other 47 are more deserving of
    ife

    At least two of them are charged with "hate crimes" so that would have been
    bad for business for a Democrat to commute their sentences.

    Are the lefties glad that we have a great president like Biden who slaps
    rime
    victims in the face?

    Some lefties probably are. Some Democrats apparently are not.

    It did lead to an interesting discussion with family members, though. We
    never did quite figure it out but some of the crimes these guys were in
    for, on the surface, didn't sound like "federal crimes." We were not sure
    why they were on "federal" death row vs. the death row of a state they committed the murders in.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Dec 27 10:26:00 2024
    But here's my question. Biden is effectively brain dead by now. When was the last time we saw him in person? So I don't belive that Biden is the one doing this. Someone is doing it in his name and using his authority. And that is highly illegal.

    He's not likely the man who's driving this dumpster fire, but he's not
    utting
    his foot down at any point, and he's letting all this stuff happen. There's
    o
    point in blaming anyone else, even though we know that our gimp didn't come
    p
    with these insane ideas all on his own.

    When this was announced on the local news, they included footage of him
    talking about why he did it. While I don't know that any of us have seen
    Biden litteraly "in person," he spoke about it in front of a camera, and he
    did campaign on it in 2020.

    I am also sure there is some string-pulling/donor-suggestions involved in
    the decision, too, but he did promise this during his 2020 campaign so it should not be too surprising that he also commuted sentences.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Dec 27 10:43:00 2024
    Oh rest assured if the election went the other way
    - they would be in here like drones over New Jersey.

    I suspect they will slowly return to the political echoes once Biden is
    gone and Trump is sworn in.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Dec 27 09:39:56 2024
    Based on the OMG report, Biden was mentally incompetent from Day 1 of his "presidency". I think if they pump enough drugs into him, he can be coherent for a short period of time, but that's it.

    But this is another "how can we know for sure?" thing. We can only see the gaffs and such that the media can't wipe away.

    We're noticing all of his weaknesses, but look at all his strengths. He negotiated the deal that got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. He changed the racial demographic in our country. He ratified the greatest heist of all time. He still has the NE states and the west coast hypnotized.

    He's done what I'd call "extraordinary work" and it's convenient to call him "demented" or "mentally incompetent" but when he gets us thinking that way we're probably just falling for another trick.

    They're scared. I love that, but it can be dangerous.

    Exactly. My hope was that many of them would simply go on "vacation"
    and hide in some country that was friendly to them. But now I realize that no such country exists.

    Fleeing the country would make it too obvious that they just stole trillions of dollars from us. They're doing it with a straight face.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Dec 27 09:55:28 2024
    He campaigned on not allowing Death Sentences to be carried out during
    his term. I guess the folks who appreciate it are the ones that voted
    for him with that in mind, or that voted for Harris with Trump's promise of resuming executions in mind.

    Supposedly, he said it was because X percentage of death row inmates are believed falsely accused. Not sure I believe that.

    This is yet another good reason to distrust statistics.

    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row? Biden decided th those three should still die, but that the other 47 are more deserving o
    ife

    At least two of them are charged with "hate crimes" so that would have been bad for business for a Democrat to commute their sentences.

    That explains it perfectly.

    It did lead to an interesting discussion with family members, though. We never did quite figure it out but some of the crimes these guys were in for, on the surface, didn't sound like "federal crimes." We were not
    sure why they were on "federal" death row vs. the death row of a state they committed the murders in.

    The summarized descriptions of their crimes sound somewhat common, but there are probably certain details that weren't mentioned that took their charges to federal courts.

    "Murder with the intent of preventing testimony by a witness, victim, or informant. Retaliatory murder of a witness, victim, or informant."

    I got that quote from an attorney's website. Those are some of the circumstances that result in federal charges.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Fri Dec 27 09:58:56 2024
    When this was announced on the local news, they included footage of him talking about why he did it. While I don't know that any of us have seen Biden litteraly "in person," he spoke about it in front of a camera, and he did campaign on it in 2020.

    I am also sure there is some string-pulling/donor-suggestions involved in the decision, too, but he did promise this during his 2020 campaign so it should not be too surprising that he also commuted sentences.

    He also promised to "provide clean water to all Americans," but nobody has held him to that commitment. Probably because replacing water pipes costs money, whereas springing some child predators from prison doesn't cost a cent.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Dec 28 08:05:59 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    We're noticing all of his weaknesses, but look at all his strengths.

    Sleeping is not a "strength". :)

    He negotiated the deal that got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

    He did that before he was installed as President. He didn't do much other than threaten. His mules did everything else.

    He changed the racial demographic in our country.

    Someone did that in his name because he was already mentally incompetent by then.

    He ratified the greatest heist of all time.

    Again, others did that in his name.

    He still has the NE states and the west coast hypnotized.

    That's the brainwashing that's been going on for decades.

    He's done what I'd call "extraordinary work" and it's convenient to
    call him "demented" or "mentally incompetent" but when he gets us
    thinking that way we're probably just falling for another trick.

    Sorry. But I can't see it. He's been an incompetent fool for a long time now.
    IHMO he's just been used as a stooge for decades by others who don't want to show themselves in the daylight.

    Fleeing the country would make it too obvious that they just stole trillions of dollars from us. They're doing it with a straight face.

    They are trying. But I don't think they will get away with it.

    "Three people can keep a secret if 2 are dead." Too many people, with little to lose, know their secrets. I think it's only a matter of time.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Dec 28 09:33:00 2024
    And what's up with the 3 who still remain on death row? Biden decided

    those three should still die, but that the other 47 are more deserving
    ife

    At least two of them are charged with "hate crimes" so that would have been bad for business for a Democrat to commute their sentences.

    That explains it perfectly.

    I thought so. I understand what a "hate crime" is, and am not bothered
    that it is used as an "accessory charge" to make it more likely a criminal
    does their time. In this case, though, it feels like it is being used in a
    way that says the murders they committed are somehow "more important" than
    the ones whose assailants were commutted.

    The summarized descriptions of their crimes sound somewhat common, but there are probably certain details that weren't mentioned that took their charges
    o
    federal courts.

    "Murder with the intent of preventing testimony by a witness, victim, or informant. Retaliatory murder of a witness, victim, or informant."

    I got that quote from an attorney's website. Those are some of the circumstances that result in federal charges.

    Yeah, that makes sense. The summaries used on TV and other places lacked a
    lot of details. I know a couple of them were murders who then murdered
    prison guards (or other staff) while in prison.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Dec 28 09:52:00 2024
    I am also sure there is some string-pulling/donor-suggestions involved in >MP> the decision, too, but he did promise this during his 2020 campaign so it >MP> should not be too surprising that he also commuted sentences.

    He also promised to "provide clean water to all Americans," but nobody has
    el
    him to that commitment. Probably because replacing water pipes costs money, whereas springing some child predators from prison doesn't cost a cent.

    Oh, I am not saying keeping a campaign promise is a reason to commute these sentences. Only that it should not come as a surprise that he did so.

    IMHO, he should not have commuted them. The crimes these people committed seemed unusually vile.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Dec 28 13:14:38 2024
    He's done what I'd call "extraordinary work" and it's convenient to call him "demented" or "mentally incompetent" but when he gets us thinking that way we're probably just falling for another trick.

    Sorry. But I can't see it. He's been an incompetent fool for a long
    time now. IHMO he's just been used as a stooge for decades by others
    who don't want to show themselves in the daylight.

    I think you've been paying attention to Biden longer than I have, so you probably notice things that I don't.

    The culprit here is the world elite (including the Democrats.) Biden is probably just their tool, but he's as guilty as they are and at one point he was probably even a leader (like in the 60s or something.)

    Fleeing the country would make it too obvious that they just stole trillions of dollars from us. They're doing it with a straight face.

    They are trying. But I don't think they will get away with it.

    "Three people can keep a secret if 2 are dead." Too many people, with little to lose, know their secrets. I think it's only a matter of time.

    Trump will kick some asses for us but he hasn't mentioned anything about trying to recover (what I refer to as) the stolen loot. I won't forget about it though.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Dec 28 13:18:50 2024
    I thought so. I understand what a "hate crime" is, and am not bothered that it is used as an "accessory charge" to make it more likely a
    criminal does their time. In this case, though, it feels like it is
    being used in a way that says the murders they committed are somehow
    "more important" than the ones whose assailants were commutted.

    I feel that same way about that. And the "hate crime" crap isn't helping this time.

    Yeah, that makes sense. The summaries used on TV and other places
    lacked a lot of details. I know a couple of them were murders who then murdered prison guards (or other staff) while in prison.

    To anyone who has a loved one working in corrections: the Democrats want the murderers of corrections officers to spend more time hanging around with corrections officers.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Sat Dec 28 13:20:24 2024
    him to that commitment. Probably because replacing water pipes costs mon whereas springing some child predators from prison doesn't cost a cent.

    Oh, I am not saying keeping a campaign promise is a reason to commute these sentences. Only that it should not come as a surprise that he did so.

    IMHO, he should not have commuted them. The crimes these people
    committed seemed unusually vile.

    I doubt that any of those guys even asked for a commutation.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Dec 29 09:34:39 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think you've been paying attention to Biden longer than I have, so
    you probably notice things that I don't.

    I've seen enough to know that he started as a corrupt, lying politician and then turned into a senile old fool.

    The culprit here is the world elite (including the Democrats.) Biden is probably just their tool, but he's as guilty as they are

    Oh, without a doubt guilty. But I don't think he's guilty for anything in the last 4 years simply because he's senile. IHMO: That's why the Elitists chose him. He has the best "get out of jail free" card.

    and at one
    point he was probably even a leader (like in the 60s or something.)

    At that point he was just a worthless, grabbing parasite. But he was probably brought into the fold at that point.

    Biden doesn't have the ability to be a leader. A puppet, yes. But never a leader in any true sense of the word.

    Trump will kick some asses for us but he hasn't mentioned anything
    about trying to recover (what I refer to as) the stolen loot. I won't forget about it though.

    I don't think we'll get the loot back. It's too well hidden and funneled into too many third parties.

    Rich people know how to hide money. Especially rich people in gov't since they are the ones making the rules to take people's money.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Dec 29 18:27:18 2024
    Trump will kick some asses for us but he hasn't mentioned anything about trying to recover (what I refer to as) the stolen loot. I won't forget about it though.

    I don't think we'll get the loot back. It's too well hidden and
    funneled into too many third parties.

    I'm confident that there's documentation of where the funds were *supposed to be used* but I'm equally confident that there's no receipts for any of it.

    A while back, when we were on this subject, one of the leftists (Jeff T) said that the money for the pipes was given to the state governors to distribute.

    My US rep confirmed what he said, and said "the work isn't done yet but be patient and it will get done." (And that was like 2 years ago.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Dec 30 07:14:22 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm confident that there's documentation of where the funds were
    *supposed to be used* but I'm equally confident that there's no
    receipts for any of it.

    I'd say that very probable. So the only thing we could do in this case is go after the person who "mismanaged" the money. But we'd still only get pennies on the dollar and the masterminds would go unpunished.

    A while back, when we were on this subject, one of the leftists (Jeff
    T) said that the money for the pipes was given to the state governors
    to distribute.

    And this is the problem here. Local infrastructure is a local problem. The feds shouldn't be giving money for that. (We can carve out an exception here for things like actual disasters.)

    My US rep confirmed what he said, and said "the work isn't done yet but
    be patient and it will get done." (And that was like 2 years ago.)

    Meaning: We used the money for something else and we are hoping that you will forget about it.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Dec 30 19:50:40 2024
    A while back, when we were on this subject, one of the leftists (Jeff T) said that the money for the pipes was given to the state governors to distribute.

    And this is the problem here. Local infrastructure is a local problem. The feds shouldn't be giving money for that. (We can carve out an exception here for things like actual disasters.)

    That's a good point. The federal government shouldn't be promising anything to local water departments. I don't believe that was ever expected from the start. We expect them to fund the military, secure the border, and engage in international diplomacy. Not to hand cash to blue city water departments. That complicates everything, and then people in red cities (like mine) get ripped off and left out.

    My US rep confirmed what he said, and said "the work isn't done yet b be patient and it will get done." (And that was like 2 years ago.)

    Meaning: We used the money for something else and we are hoping that you will forget about it.

    This RINO is on his way out after losing this year's election to a Democrat. The least he can do is sue the Biden administration for lying to us, but he's smart enough to know better than to bite the hand that feeds.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Dec 31 07:12:34 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's a good point. The federal government shouldn't be promising anything to local water departments. I don't believe that was ever expected from the start. We expect them to fund the military, secure
    the border, and engage in international diplomacy. Not to hand cash to blue city water departments. That complicates everything, and then
    people in red cities (like mine) get ripped off and left out.

    But we have to remember that these handouts have nothing to do with the problem they are pretending to solve. They are only to funnel our tax dollars into the pockets of some Elitist.

    This RINO is on his way out after losing this year's election to a Democrat. The least he can do is sue the Biden administration for lying
    to us, but he's smart enough to know better than to bite the hand that feeds.

    He won't go against his masters. He might get Hillaried.


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  • From aaron thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Tue Dec 31 16:20:14 2024
    the border, and engage in international diplomacy. Not to hand cash t blue city water departments. That complicates everything, and then people in red cities (like mine) get ripped off and left out.

    But we have to remember that these handouts have nothing to do with the problem they are pretending to solve. They are only to funnel our tax dollars into the pockets of some Elitist.

    I'm not 100% convinced that lead poisoning is really a thing, either. It's probably just another "statistical" scare. But a promise is a promise.

    You're right about the funneling. I've seen it take place on a lower level, and there are similarities. There's this guy who is the director of a multi-state children's home, and he hires the most expensive contractors to do jobs, after others put in bids to do them for a fraction of the cost. I believe Biden is doing the same thing, but on a way higher level.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to aaron thomas on Wed Jan 1 09:36:48 2025
    aaron thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm not 100% convinced that lead poisoning is really a thing, either.
    It's probably just another "statistical" scare. But a promise is a promise.

    There is, but there's more to it than just pipes.

    I used to live in Flint a long time ago, so I followed that mess carefully.

    The media want to portray the "Flint Water Crisis" as this thing that just magically appeared. But the facts say otherwise.

    Lead pipes have been around for a long time. Lead water pipes quickly develop a "scale" (think of the blue-green tarnish that copper gets) that effectively prevents the lead from leeching into the water. That's what Flint had for 100 years.

    Then along comes the Democrats who run the city in to the ground. Add to that the bankruptsy of Detroit - which is important here. Flint got its water from Detroit. But Detroit had to raise the price of their water because of their own financial problems. The Democrats of Flint, not wanting to spend their graft money on providing clean water to the residents, decided to get the water from another, cheaper source, which wasn't ready yet.

    In the interim, they decide to get their water from the Flint River. Problem: The Flint River water was acidic and would remove the lead scaling and cause lead to leech into the drinking water. Easily solved with a chemical that could be added at the water treatment plant. Oh, wait. That costs money
    that the Dems couldn't use for their graft. So they didn't add the chemical.

    And the rest is history.

    The Flint Water Crisis was caused by:
    1. The Democrats not upgrading the infrastructure like they were supposed to. 2. The Democrats running the financials of Flint into the ground so they couldn't afford clean water.
    3. The Democrats choosing to not treat the water correctly.
    (Note the common theme here.)

    And, of course, the Democrats not leaving any "crisis" (especially one that they caused) unexploited.

    You're right about the funneling. I've seen it take place on a lower level, and there are similarities. There's this guy who is the director
    of a multi-state children's home, and he hires the most expensive contractors to do jobs, after others put in bids to do them for a
    fraction of the cost. I believe Biden is doing the same thing, but on a way higher level.

    They have been doing stuff like that for a long time. But never get held accountable. I think that people are fed up with that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Wed Jan 1 12:14:50 2025
    I'm not 100% convinced that lead poisoning is really a thing, either. It's probably just another "statistical" scare. But a promise is a promise.

    There is, but there's more to it than just pipes.

    I used to live in Flint a long time ago, so I followed that mess carefully.

    The media want to portray the "Flint Water Crisis" as this thing that
    just magically appeared. But the facts say otherwise.

    Lead pipes have been around for a long time. Lead water pipes quickly develop a "scale" (think of the blue-green tarnish that copper gets)
    that effectively prevents the lead from leeching into the water. That's

    I never knew that. Then in my case, the lead pipes in my city probably have a very thick scale on them by now, and there's probably no reason to change the pipes.

    The county health department here has advised that lead poisoning occurs primarily from inhalation of lead dust (from deteriorating lead paint.) It's hard to know what to believe. If you're not scared of lead, then they'll try to scare you about "the dangers of AI."

    In the interim, they decide to get their water from the Flint River. Problem: The Flint River water was acidic and would remove the lead scaling and cause lead to leech into the drinking water. Easily solved

    Do you see a lot of people drinking tap water though? I don't. I use it for cooking but that's about it. All the restaurants use water filters.

    Have you heard any local news about large quantities of children being affected by lead poisoning? If so, then this can be resolved by parents not serving their kids tap water, can't it?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jan 2 07:20:52 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I never knew that. Then in my case, the lead pipes in my city probably have a very thick scale on them by now, and there's probably no reason
    to change the pipes.

    Like copper, the lead scaling is pretty thin, but is non-reactive (for the most part). So it simply stops the leaching of lead into the water.

    Most places still have lead pipes and they replace them over time as needed since it's very expensive to dig everything up, replace them, cover them back up - and put everything (like the roadway) back.

    Flint, run by Democrats, never had that in their plans.

    The county health department here has advised that lead poisoning
    occurs primarily from inhalation of lead dust (from deteriorating lead paint.)

    And leaded gasoline before we got rid of that.

    It's hard to know what to believe. If you're not scared of
    lead, then they'll try to scare you about "the dangers of AI."

    Yup. We are in a storm of propaganda. Pick a scare and someone is exploiting it.

    Do you see a lot of people drinking tap water though? I don't. I use it for cooking but that's about it. All the restaurants use water filters.

    Most poor people, who can't afford filters, do.

    Have you heard any local news about large quantities of children being affected by lead poisoning? If so, then this can be resolved by parents not serving their kids tap water, can't it?

    The only large quantities of lead poisoning seem to only happen in Democrat run areas - so that news is suppressed. The only time we see a scare like this is to hurt a Republican. In the case of the Flint Lead "Crisis", it was to tarnish our Republican Governor at the time.


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