• Tariff Talk

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to All on Sun Apr 13 01:58:56 2025
    All the tariff talk is a distraction. It's a distraction that the media needs in order to get people to stop thinking about the Biden Border Crisis.

    What crisis? It's over, Trump fixed it, right?

    WRONG. Biden let in millions of illegals, according to CBP. And Trump has deported hundreds, according to media reports. This means that the border crisis is still in full-swing, and that we need to reject the media's attempt to give us a false sense of security.

    Here's a hint: Any terrorists who want to harm us, who have successfully entered illegally, will not be swayed by the "Self deport" slogan or the "If you self-deport then you can still come back legally."

    Despite headlines, despite who's president, beware of the Biden border crisis.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Apr 13 09:25:00 2025
    All the tariff talk is a distraction.

    No it really isn't, at least not in the sense you say it is. The media wouldn't have it to talk about if Trump would stop flip-flopping on it. So
    the question becomes "if it is a distraction, what is *Trump* trying to distract us from"?

    It's a distraction that the media needs
    in order to get people to stop thinking about the Biden Border Crisis.

    Now *this* sounds like a distraction.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Apr 13 09:12:19 2025
    All the tariff talk is a distraction.

    No it really isn't, at least not in the sense you say it is. The media wouldn't have it to talk about if Trump would stop flip-flopping on it. So the question becomes "if it is a distraction, what is *Trump* trying
    to distract us from"?

    That's a good question. I love Trump, but I'll be the first to admit that he's distracting from the border crisis with all kinds of crap.

    On the bright side, he's helping by deporting hundreds of migrants, but the dark reality is that his pace is lackluster and it's not the de-envasion that we were hoping for.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 13 17:25:02 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    Despite headlines, despite who's president, beware of the Biden border crisis.

    Ignore the headlines. They are usually click-bait anyway.

    But the problem is that if you have a ship with hundreds of holes in the bottom, you work at plugging them. And you are going to forget about the big holes that are still being worked on.

    I don't think that's intended, but rather the way it is. Trump has lots of problems to solve - or at least to get the ball rolling to solve - in only 4 years. While we can't forget about the border crisis, we can't focus on it either.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Apr 14 06:05:48 2025
    I don't think that's intended, but rather the way it is. Trump has lots of problems to solve - or at least to get the ball rolling to solve - in only 4 years. While we can't forget about the border crisis, we can't focus on it either.

    I understand. He's definitely doing the best he can. But I'll still complain about the slow speed of the deportations whenever someone wants me to speak
    critically of Trump. (He can't screw over the left fast enough!)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Mon Apr 14 09:04:00 2025
    That's a good question. I love Trump, but I'll be the first to admit that
    e's
    distracting from the border crisis with all kinds of crap.

    You might need to get used to "crap" for the next ~4 years as I suspect
    there will be a lot of it.

    On the bright side, he's helping by deporting hundreds of migrants, but the dark reality is that his pace is lackluster and it's not the de-envasion that we were hoping for.

    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and the
    USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least one of them back.


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  • From Borax Man@3:770/100 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 15 10:21:20 2025
    Mike Powell wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    That's a good question. I love Trump, but I'll be the first to admit that
    e's
    distracting from the border crisis with all kinds of crap.

    You might need to get used to "crap" for the next ~4 years as I suspect there will be a lot of it.

    On the bright side, he's helping by deporting hundreds of migrants, but the dark reality is that his pace is lackluster and it's not the de-envasion
    that
    we were hoping for.

    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and
    the USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least one
    of them back.

    I wonder how the USA got itself into such a bind, that this action became necessary. Let this be a lesson to other countries. CONTROL YOUR BORDER!


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 14 16:23:10 2025
    On the bright side, he's helping by deporting hundreds of migrants, but dark reality is that his pace is lackluster and it's not the de-envasion we were hoping for.

    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and the USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least one of
    them back.

    It's just 1 guy. And Bukele said that he's keeping him.

    Why try to hate Trump? Hope for the best.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 15 07:15:49 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I understand. He's definitely doing the best he can. But I'll still complain about the slow speed of the deportations whenever someone
    wants me to speak critically of Trump. (He can't screw over the left
    fast enough!)

    Sort of like a business complaining that they are packed from open to close.

    But he's doing his best to screw over the left. But the left has soooo many plans in place it's going to take lots of time and energy.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Borax Man on Tue Apr 15 05:49:59 2025
    That's a good question. I love Trump, but I'll be the first to admit th
    e's
    distracting from the border crisis with all kinds of crap.

    You might need to get used to "crap" for the next ~4 years as I suspe there will be a lot of it.

    Good point! Well said!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Apr 15 06:15:41 2025
    But he's doing his best to screw over the left. But the left has soooo many plans in place it's going to take lots of time and energy.

    My daughter is afraid to have any friends over because of the giant Trump flag that I have on the front porch. I told her "I'll take the flag down, but if I do, I'm putting it in my car and I'm gonna carry it with me every place I go." (So we're keeping it on the front porch for now hehe)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Borax Man on Tue Apr 15 06:16:51 2025
    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and the USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least on of them back.

    I wonder how the USA got itself into such a bind, that this action became necessary. Let this be a lesson to other countries. CONTROL YOUR BORDER!

    Well said! Good point!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BORAX MAN on Tue Apr 15 09:59:00 2025
    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and the USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least one of them back.

    I wonder how the USA got itself into such a bind, that this action became necessary. Let this be a lesson to other countries. CONTROL YOUR BORDER!

    Most certainly so. While I agree an action was necessary, I don't completely agree on how they carried it out. Some of them already had hearings
    scheduled, and those should have been allowed to procede.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tue Apr 15 10:05:00 2025
    On the bright side, he's helping by deporting hundreds of migrants,
    ut
    dark reality is that his pace is lackluster and it's not the
    e-envasio
    we were hoping for.

    It is quick enough that they are deporting people they shouldn't, and
    he
    USSC has told them they need to figure out how to get at least one of them back.

    It's just 1 guy. And Bukele said that he's keeping him.

    They've deported more than one to El Salvador that should not have been. They've so far only been told by the court that they have to return one.

    Why try to hate Trump? Hope for the best.

    I don't hate Trump. I do find it very odd that folks will suddenly change their own opinions, to align with his, every time he opens his mouth and
    not think to question why they would do so.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 15 15:38:44 2025
    It's just 1 guy. And Bukele said that he's keeping him.

    They've deported more than one to El Salvador that should not have been. They've so far only been told by the court that they have to return one.

    Let's see if our federal judges can boss people around in El Salvador.

    The guy came here illegally, but the prosecution is on Trump. How is that fair?

    Should we bring him back here so we can charge him with illegal entry? Do you want to pay for his airfare for that?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Apr 16 07:17:55 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    My daughter is afraid to have any friends over because of the giant
    Trump flag that I have on the front porch. I told her "I'll take the
    flag down, but if I do, I'm putting it in my car and I'm gonna carry it with me every place I go." (So we're keeping it on the front porch for
    now hehe)

    If she has friends who would be offended by that, she needs to find better friends.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wed Apr 16 09:10:00 2025
    Let's see if our federal judges can boss people around in El Salvador.

    The guy came here illegally, but the prosecution is on Trump. How is that
    air

    Because he was deported without due process, i.e. he did not get his time before a judge. That is why the prosecution is on the Trump administration.

    Even if he did come here illegally from one country, there is no law on the books that says we can send you to a supermax facility in *another*
    country. If he was being deported for being illegal, he should have been
    sent back to Venezuela, not El Salvador.

    Should we bring him back here so we can charge him with illegal entry? Do you want to pay for his airfare for that?

    No, I don't want to pay for it, but I am smart enough to see that there was a mistake made and now it needs to be fixed. I am also smart enough to see
    that whoever didn't do their homework before these raids needs to be
    punished -- probably fired.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Apr 16 08:19:09 2025
    flag down, but if I do, I'm putting it in my car and I'm gonna carry with me every place I go." (So we're keeping it on the front porch fo now hehe)

    If she has friends who would be offended by that, she needs to find
    better friends.

    The problem is the ratio of brainwashed to non-brainwashed is a little high in places like Binghamton High School.

    They're kids, so unfortunately not many of them will break free from the brainwashing until a little later in life. (I didn't know the dealio until Obama.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Wed Apr 16 08:26:44 2025
    Even if he did come here illegally from one country, there is no law on the books that says we can send you to a supermax facility in *another* country. If he was being deported for being illegal, he should have been sent back to Venezuela, not El Salvador.

    Should we bring him back here so we can charge him with illegal entry? D want to pay for his airfare for that?

    No, I don't want to pay for it, but I am smart enough to see that there was a mistake made and now it needs to be fixed. I am also smart enough to see that whoever didn't do their homework before these raids needs to be punished -- probably fired.

    There's this problem though: Venezuela doesn't do enough to keep their criminals from wandering into the USA. At least we know that we're safer with him in CECOT. Venezuela should do everything they can to "bring him home" since he's their problem and not ours.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 17 07:25:40 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The problem is the ratio of brainwashed to non-brainwashed is a little high in places like Binghamton High School.

    They're kids, so unfortunately not many of them will break free from
    the brainwashing until a little later in life. (I didn't know the
    dealio until Obama.)

    The polls are showing that the younger crowd is getting more and more conservative. At least they aren't getting brainwashed by the Wokies. So there might be some hope here.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Apr 17 08:51:00 2025
    There's this problem though: Venezuela doesn't do enough to keep their criminals from wandering into the USA. At least we know that we're safer with him in CECOT. Venezuela should do everything they can to "bring him home" sinc
    he's their problem and not ours.

    You are not safer with him in CECOT. He was allegedly not even a gang
    member and was here *legally*.

    You are actually less safe because it means they can screw up and send
    anyone down there, and they not be able to get them back.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 17 15:30:22 2025
    You are not safer with him in CECOT. He was allegedly not even a gang member and was here *legally*.

    That's the first I've heard about that. But even if he was here legally, he wasn't born here, he's not a citizen, and therefore he can be deported for failing to pay a parking ticket, for applying for food stamps, or for many other minor crimes. None of us have any solid facts on him, so it's just as ridiculous to defend him as it is to condemn him.

    You are actually less safe because it means they can screw up and send anyone down there, and they not be able to get them back.

    What's even more unsafe is feeling victimized by something you saw on TV.

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  • From Mickey@1:229/308 to Ron L. on Thu Apr 17 20:04:23 2025
    Re: Re: Tariff Talk
    By: Ron L. to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 17 2025 07:25:40

    The polls are showing that the younger crowd is getting more and more conservative. At least they aren't getting brainwashed by the Wokies. So there might be some hope here.

    My God I hope so. The young people are our future.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 18 08:09:40 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    That's the first I've heard about that. But even if he was here
    legally, he wasn't born here, he's not a citizen, and therefore he can
    be deported for failing to pay a parking ticket, for applying for food stamps, or for many other minor crimes. None of us have any solid facts
    on him, so it's just as ridiculous to defend him as it is to condemn
    him.

    That he can be deported is not in question. That he was loaded onto a
    plane and deported without due process is the issue.

    You are actually less safe because it means they can screw up and send anyone down there, and they not be able to get them back.

    What's even more unsafe is feeling victimized by something you saw on
    TV.

    If you don't see the slippery slope of totalitarian moves and instead
    would rather gaslight by somehow alluding to standing against
    government overreach as weakness or a victim mindset, I don't know what
    to say.




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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Apr 19 12:22:01 2025
    on him, so it's just as ridiculous to defend him as it is to condemn him.

    That he can be deported is not in question. That he was loaded onto a plane and deported without due process is the issue.

    Trump made promises during his campaign, and he's keeping them. He didn't promise to let Soros-funded federal judges stand in the way of protecting innocent lives.

    If you don't like it, then you should have voted for Kamala.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 21 07:30:18 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Trump made promises during his campaign, and he's keeping them. He
    didn't promise to let Soros-funded federal judges stand in the way of protecting innocent lives.

    He did make a vow to preserve and defend the constitution - I remember
    seeing that at the inauguration. Although skipping the "from enemies
    foreign and domestic" line was odd.

    Funny, how democratic and republican-appointed judges have been ruling
    against Trump. As for funding judges, that's not worth comment anymore,
    given the makeup of the Supreme Court.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Kurt Weiske on Mon Apr 21 11:36:09 2025
    Trump made promises during his campaign, and he's keeping them. He didn't promise to let Soros-funded federal judges stand in the way of protecting innocent lives.

    He did make a vow to preserve and defend the constitution - I remember seeing that at the inauguration. Although skipping the "from enemies foreign and domestic" line was odd.

    Funny, how democratic and republican-appointed judges have been ruling against Trump. As for funding judges, that's not worth comment anymore, given the makeup of the Supreme Court.

    You're literally all over the map with this statement. It's not the USSC judges that are funded by Soros, it's the federal judges.

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