Despite the fact that the media has said dozens of times over the past few weeks that "CECOT doesn't allow visitors," Democrat US Senator Chris Van Hollen took a taxpayer-funded all-expense-paid excursion to El Salvador to try to have a visit with that terrorist that the Democrats want to bring back into the USA.

Could it be possible that DEMOCRAT Senator Van Hollen doesn't watch the news?

Could it be possible that nobody ever told him about the visitation policy?

Could it be he thinks he's so elite that they'd bend the rules for him?

Could it be that it's an expensive publicity stunt at our expense?

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Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

Despite the fact that the media has said dozens of times over the past
few weeks that "CECOT doesn't allow visitors," Democrat US Senator
Chris Van Hollen took a taxpayer-funded all-expense-paid excursion to
El Salvador to try to have a visit with that terrorist that the
Democrats want to bring back into the USA.

Except the fact that Kristi Noem, Jason Smith (R-Mo) and Riley Moore (R-W.
Va) Also have visited CECOT. Several others have visited El Salvador,
but wouldn't confirm or deny whether they visited CECOT.

Are you claiming that congressional delegates don't have authority to
visit detention facilities that the US government is funding?

Could it be possible that DEMOCRAT Senator Van Hollen doesn't watch the news?

That's not likely.

Could it be possible that nobody ever told him about the visitation policy?

Again, not likely, based on the previous visits by US delegations.

Could it be he thinks he's so elite that they'd bend the rules for him?

More likely, people had assumed he'd been killed in custody by our administration's responses and people demanded Proof of Life. Although
your claim isn't too preposterous.

Could it be that it's an expensive publicity stunt at our expense?

No, see above.



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Quoting Aaron Thomas to All <=-

Despite the fact that the media has said dozens of times over the
past few weeks that "CECOT doesn't allow visitors," Democrat US
Senator Chris Van Hollen took a taxpayer-funded all-expense-paid
excursion to El Salvador to try to have a visit with that terrorist
that the Democrats want to bring back into the USA.

He was stopped at a military checkpoint and refused entry. Apparently
there were 2 GOP house members allowed to visit the facility only
days before (according to USA Today).

Could it be he thinks he's so elite that they'd bend the rules for
him?

Of the items listed, the one above seems most likely.

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Don Vally wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

Could it be he thinks he's so elite that they'd bend the rules for
him?

Of the items listed, the one above seems most likely.

That is one of the big problems with the Elitists today. But mostly because they can't comprehend Reality and don't understand that they are less important than a rock.

I can think of many uses for a rock, but few uses for an Elitist.


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Are you claiming that congressional delegates don't have authority to
visit detention facilities that the US government is funding?

The fact that the USA is paying El Salvador to house them, and isn't doing
it for free, seems to ellude a lot of folks.


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Except the fact that Kristi Noem, Jason Smith (R-Mo) and Riley Moore
(R-W. Va) Also have visited CECOT. Several others have visited El Salvador, but wouldn't confirm or deny whether they visited CECOT.

They visited the prison, but they weren't there to drink marguritas with the inmates.

Are you claiming that congressional delegates don't have authority to visit detention facilities that the US government is funding?

The US funds research in Chinese universities. Does that mean that members of the US government can go to China and do whatever they want? Get real.

Could it be possible that nobody ever told him about the visitation policy?

Again, not likely, based on the previous visits by US delegations.

(See above!)

Could it be that it's an expensive publicity stunt at our expense?

No, see above.

That's all it was. What good did it do? US senators have no authority in El Salvador.

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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

Are you claiming that congressional delegates don't have authority to
visit detention facilities that the US government is funding?

The fact that the USA is paying El Salvador to house them, and isn't
doing it for free, seems to ellude a lot of folks.

Ignore the facts that don't fit the narrative is prevalent nowadays.
No one can prove he's MS-13, as far as I've seen his only arrest was
for loitering at a home depot looking for day labor. But the
administration has already painted him a criminal and/or a terrorist.

The due process part is the part they gloss over. When Alito was on
the side of civil liberties, you know it's bad.

Justice Antonin Scalia, in the 1993 Supreme Court case Reno v. Flores,
wrote that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles
aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings".




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Ron L. wrote to Don Vally <=-

That is one of the big problems with the Elitists today. But mostly because they can't comprehend Reality and don't understand that they
are less important than a rock.

What exactly defines an elitist? Labels make a nice straw-man fallacy.
Be specific.




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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

That's all it was. What good did it do? US senators have no authority
in El Salvador.

I think we were hoping that they would put the senator in prison too. But no such luck.

The senator did violate the Hatch Act, though. So hopefully we'll see something come out of that.


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Quoting Kurt Weiske to Ron L. <=-

Ron L. wrote to Don Vally <=-

That is one of the big problems with the Elitists today. But mostly because they can't comprehend Reality and don't understand that they
are less important than a rock.

What exactly defines an elitist? Labels make a nice straw-man fallacy.
Be specific.

Do you mean you want the definition? Thats easy, just look at the
dictionary...

A person who believes that a society or system should be let by an
elite.

An elite...

"Elite" refers to a group of individuals considered the best, most
powerful, or privileged group or society.

Not sure this is what you were after though...

Don

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Are you claiming that congressional delegates don't have authority to visit detention facilities that the US government is funding?

The fact that the USA is paying El Salvador to house them, and isn't
doing it for free, seems to ellude a lot of folks.

So then they have to change their jail policies because we're renting space from them?

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Ignore the facts that don't fit the narrative is prevalent nowadays.
No one can prove he's MS-13, as far as I've seen his only arrest was
for loitering at a home depot looking for day labor. But the
administration has already painted him a criminal and/or a terrorist.

You're right. Nobody can prove that he's in a gang. But without a visa he can't prove that he has any legal right to be in the country. If he's so innocent of everything, why doesn't he just show his visa to authorities? That will fix everything.

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Don Vally wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

"Elite" refers to a group of individuals considered the best, most powerful, or privileged group or society.

But in this case, it would be "a group of individuals who consider THEMSELVES to be the best..."


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

The fact that the USA is paying El Salvador to house them, and isn't
doing it for free, seems to ellude a lot of folks.

So then they have to change their jail policies because we're renting space from them?

Mike is "simplifying" things a little too much again.

We are not "paying El Salvador to house them". We are sending El Salvator their citizens back, we are also paying El Salvator to IMPRISON (not "house") some of our criminals.

Based on El Salvador's track record here, they are doing a better job of imprisonment (and probably cheaper too) than we do. And since the prison is in El Salvador, the Wokies can't interfere with it.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Except the fact that Kristi Noem, Jason Smith (R-Mo) and Riley Moore
(R-W. Va) Also have visited CECOT. Several others have visited El Salvador, but wouldn't confirm or deny whether they visited CECOT.

They visited the prison, but they weren't there to drink marguritas
with the inmates.

I'm disappointed in the democrats. They're giving this oxygen, when all
Senator Van Hollen had to say is "I didn't order it. I didn't drink it.
Next Question?"

The US funds research in Chinese universities. Does that mean that
members of the US government can go to China and do whatever they want? Get real.

We're El Salvador's customers here. So, bad analogy.

That's all it was. What good did it do? US senators have no authority
in El Salvador.

I guess they're playing chess and you're playing checkers.




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We are not "paying El Salvador to house them". We are sending El
Salvator their citizens back, we are also paying El Salvator to IMPRISON (not "house") some of our criminals.

Based on El Salvador's track record here, they are doing a better job of imprisonment (and probably cheaper too) than we do. And since the
prison is in El Salvador, the Wokies can't interfere with it.

That makes sense (to me at least.)

For the longest time I didn't understand why there are certain Americans who prefer to keep illegal immigrants in the USA rather than deport them. But now I'm beginning to realize that some of these Americans exploit illegal immigrants and use them for forced labor and/or sex trafficking.

So then they get mad when someone like Trump comes along and threatens to end their sick fun.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron L. <=-

We are not "paying El Salvador to house them". We are sending El
Salvator their citizens back, we are also paying El Salvator to IMPRISON (not "house") some of our criminals.

Based on El Salvador's track record here, they are doing a better job of imprisonment (and probably cheaper too) than we do. And since the
prison is in El Salvador, the Wokies can't interfere with it.

That makes sense (to me at least.)

For the longest time I didn't understand why there are certain
Americans who prefer to keep illegal immigrants in the USA rather than deport them. But now I'm beginning to realize that some of these
Americans exploit illegal immigrants and use them for forced labor
and/or sex trafficking.

So then they get mad when someone like Trump comes along and threatens
to end their sick fun.

I find it amusing to hear Liberals whine about "oh, who will do these jobs of you deport the illegals". They are literally wanting to continue a system of exploitation. Some people will oppose anything Trump does, no matter how justified. If Trump was to try to reduce carbon emmissions, they'd be against it.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

For the longest time I didn't understand why there are certain
Americans who prefer to keep illegal immigrants in the USA rather than deport them. But now I'm beginning to realize that some of these
Americans exploit illegal immigrants and use them for forced labor
and/or sex trafficking.

As usual, there are many groups with different agendas who want the same thing. 1. We have the sexual deviants who basically want sex slaves.
2. We have the slave owners (all slave owners were Democrats) who want cheap labor.
3. We have the people who want to destabilize society, so that the population will give up their rights for "security".
4. We have the virtue signallers who want to look like they are on the "right side" (they are failing hard, though).
5. And, of course, the useful idiots who never have to deal with the problem.

So then they get mad when someone like Trump comes along and threatens
to end their sick fun.

Exactly. It's become very appearant that the more upset the Wokies get over a Trump policy, the more I'm sure that the policy is good.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

You're right. Nobody can prove that he's in a gang. But without a visa
he can't prove that he has any legal right to be in the country. If
he's so innocent of everything, why doesn't he just show his visa to authorities? That will fix everything.

If only there was due process to discover all of this, instead of
renditioning him to an international black site...





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So then they get mad when someone like Trump comes along and threaten to end their sick fun.

I find it amusing to hear Liberals whine about "oh, who will do these
jobs of you deport the illegals". They are literally wanting to
continue a system of exploitation. Some people will oppose anything
Trump does, no matter how justified. If Trump was to try to reduce
carbon emmissions, they'd be against it.

Yea, they're sick. The left has been trying to get everyone to:
* Not know the difference between illegal and legal
* Assume that all illegals are here to pick oranges
* Not notice that some of them are being exploited and/or killed
* Not notice that some of them are killing innocent Americans
* Think that the border patrol and ICE are Trump surrogates

They're losing this mind-game though. The majority of America sees right through it.

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thing. 1. We have the sexual deviants who basically want sex slaves.
2. We have the slave owners (all slave owners were Democrats) who want cheap labor.
3. We have the people who want to destabilize society, so that the population will give up their rights for "security".
4. We have the virtue signallers who want to look like they are on the "right side" (they are failing hard, though).
5. And, of course, the useful idiots who never have to deal with the problem.

Yes. It's important for people to realize that there are several reasons (not just one) why the left, particularly Democrats, want to keep illegal immigrants in America. And there are probably at least a dozen more that you didn't include in that quick list.

So then they get mad when someone like Trump comes along and threaten to end their sick fun.

Exactly. It's become very appearant that the more upset the Wokies get over a Trump policy, the more I'm sure that the policy is good.

Yes, I agree 100%. And furthermore: almost anything the media says is "bad" must be good (the only exception being the tragedies that they exploit.)

Gun control good = gun control bad
Global warming bad = global warming good
Statistics show = Statistics don't show

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he's so innocent of everything, why doesn't he just show his visa to authorities? That will fix everything.

If only there was due process to discover all of this, instead of renditioning him to an international black site...

Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's best for the American people, which is deport first and ask questions later.

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Quoting Borax Man to Aaron Thomas <=-

continue a system of exploitation. Some people will oppose anything
Trump does, no matter how justified. If Trump was to try to reduce
carbon emmissions, they'd be against it.

If Trump laid a golden egg, these people would find some way to
denigrate that. They hate him with capital letters. TDS.

They are ugly people, not looking but inside. Won't even 'think' of
enterataining the notion that he might be good.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yes. It's important for people to realize that there are several
reasons (not just one) why the left, particularly Democrats, want to
keep illegal immigrants in America. And there are probably at least a dozen more that you didn't include in that quick list.

Oh, I'm sure I didn't get them all.

There's the ones who think that there are too many plebes on the planet sucking up resources.
Others who think that we should own nothing.
And much, much more.

But they all have the same thing in common: They believe that they know what's best and want to impose it on everyone else.

Yes, I agree 100%. And furthermore: almost anything the media says is "bad" must be good (the only exception being the tragedies that they exploit.)

One of the reasons why Leftie policies always have the opposite impact of what they claim.


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But they all have the same thing in common: They believe that they know what's best and want to impose it on everyone else.

They know what's best for themselves, and in order to get it they have to make weak minded people believe that it's what's best for everyone.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

But they all have the same thing in common: They believe that they know what's best and want to impose it on everyone else.

They know what's best for themselves, and in order to get it they have
to make weak minded people believe that it's what's best for everyone.

Yes, they do have that confusion.

But that reflects their old slave owner attitude of "those slaves would be much worse off if we hadn't brought them over here."


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They know what's best for themselves, and in order to get it they hav to make weak minded people believe that it's what's best for everyone

Yes, they do have that confusion.

But that reflects their old slave owner attitude of "those slaves would
be much worse off if we hadn't brought them over here."

Life sure is a lot easier when we let other people make decisions for us :)

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's best for
the American people, which is deport first and ask questions later.

Yeah, if it weren't for that pesky Constitution that we keep holding up
as a pillar of freedom for the world.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in
cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in
actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be
subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or
limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness
against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without
due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use,
without just compensation.



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Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's best fo the American people, which is deport first and ask questions later.

Yeah, if it weren't for that pesky Constitution that we keep holding up
as a pillar of freedom for the world.

That's why we're using special laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

But that reflects their old slave owner attitude of "those slaves would
be much worse off if we hadn't brought them over here."

Life sure is a lot easier when we let other people make decisions for
us :)

Ya, but the lack of food, clothing, heat, clean water, etc. is a pain.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's best fo the American people, which is deport first and ask questions later.

Yeah, if it weren't for that pesky Constitution that we keep holding up
as a pillar of freedom for the world.

That's why we're using special laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

ab(using)



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Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's be the American people, which is deport first and ask questions lat

Yeah, if it weren't for that pesky Constitution that we keep holding as a pillar of freedom for the world.

That's why we're using special laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 179

ab(using)

It's our turn.

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Quoting Kurt Weiske to Aaron Thomas <=-

Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Yea, it's sad. So unfortunately for him we've go to do what's best fo the American people, which is deport first and ask questions later.

Yeah, if it weren't for that pesky Constitution that we keep holding up
as a pillar of freedom for the world.

That's why we're using special laws like the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

ab(using)

In your opinion.


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