• searching for a specific kind of update

    From bp@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 12 10:30:02 2026
    I'm using an RTL8812BU wifi adapter which is behaving suspiciously.
    When signal strengths and throughput deteriorate the USB subsystem,
    including the keyboard and pointing device, become unreliable.

    This is on an old RPi2B, so armv7.

    Is there a way to search for and install updates relevant to that
    specific device? It's already known that a general update will break
    support for a needed peripheral, an Owon USB oscilloscope. It's
    necessary to be at least somewhat choosy

    From what I can tell the RTL8812BU isn't very widely supported,
    FreeBSD doesn't even try. I'm hopeful RasPiOS does somewhat better.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 12 10:30:02 2026
    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 14:51:15 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

    Is there a way to search for and install updates relevant to that
    specific device? It's already known that a general update will break
    support for a needed peripheral, an Owon USB oscilloscope. It's
    necessary to be at least somewhat choosy

    What exactly are these ?updates?? Kernel modules? Userland drivers?

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  • From bp@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jan 12 10:30:02 2026
    mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 14:51, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    I'm using an RTL8812BU wifi adapter which is behaving suspiciously.
    When signal strengths and throughput deteriorate the USB subsystem,
    including the keyboard and pointing device, become unreliable.

    This is on an old RPi2B, so armv7.

    Is there a way to search for and install updates relevant to that
    specific device? It's already known that a general update will break
    support for a needed peripheral, an Owon USB oscilloscope. It's
    necessary to be at least somewhat choosy

    From what I can tell the RTL8812BU isn't very widely supported,
    FreeBSD doesn't even try. I'm hopeful RasPiOS does somewhat better.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    Unless you are after the intellectual satisfaction of solving the
    problem, don't waste valuable minutes you will never get back, just buy something that is better supported and works well.

    What do you suggest?

    Thanks for writing,

    bob prohaska


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From mm0fmf@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jan 11 15:52:36 2026
    On 11/01/2026 14:51, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    I'm using an RTL8812BU wifi adapter which is behaving suspiciously.
    When signal strengths and throughput deteriorate the USB subsystem,
    including the keyboard and pointing device, become unreliable.

    This is on an old RPi2B, so armv7.

    Is there a way to search for and install updates relevant to that
    specific device? It's already known that a general update will break
    support for a needed peripheral, an Owon USB oscilloscope. It's
    necessary to be at least somewhat choosy

    From what I can tell the RTL8812BU isn't very widely supported,
    FreeBSD doesn't even try. I'm hopeful RasPiOS does somewhat better.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    Unless you are after the intellectual satisfaction of solving the
    problem, don't waste valuable minutes you will never get back, just buy something that is better supported and works well.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From bp@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 13 09:30:01 2026
    Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 14:51:15 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

    Is there a way to search for and install updates relevant to that
    specific device? It's already known that a general update will break
    support for a needed peripheral, an Owon USB oscilloscope. It's
    necessary to be at least somewhat choosy

    What exactly are these ?updates?? Kernel modules? Userland drivers?

    Probably kernel modules. Right now lsusb identifies the wifi device as
    Bus 001 Device 040: ID 2357:012d TP-Link Archer T3U [Realtek RTL8812BU]

    Running dmesg through grep wlan0 finds
    [1549933.629235] rtw_8822bu 1-1.5.2:1.0 wlan0: disabling HT/VHT/HE as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP

    The wifi dongle works but not well. When the wireless connection gets
    dodgy the entire USB system, including keyboard and trackpad, slow to
    the point that the machine can't be controlled and must be power-cycled.

    If I try
    bob@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt search rtw_8822bu
    Sorting... Done
    Full Text Search... Done

    nothing is found, not even the existing driver.

    Am I looking with the wrong tool?

    Thanks for writing,

    bob prohaska



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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 13 10:46:59 2026
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    Check if you have rtw88 drivers already installed:
    cd /lib/modules
    find -name 'rtw88*'

    If so, maybe you just need to blacklist the rtw_8822bu driver to
    use them? Unless the rtw88 driver is used already and it wrongly
    logs as "rtw_8822bu", in which case the "modinfo rtw_8822bu"
    command will fail, and look at the output of "lsmod" to see
    exactly which "rtw" module/s are being used.

    Also make sure you have the package "firmware-realtek" installed
    and up to date.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:633/10 to All on Tue Jan 13 10:38:58 2026
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Probably kernel modules. Right now lsusb identifies the wifi device as
    Bus 001 Device 040: ID 2357:012d TP-Link Archer T3U [Realtek RTL8812BU]

    Running dmesg through grep wlan0 finds
    [1549933.629235] rtw_8822bu 1-1.5.2:1.0 wlan0: disabling HT/VHT/HE as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP

    The wifi dongle works but not well. When the wireless connection gets
    dodgy the entire USB system, including keyboard and trackpad, slow to
    the point that the machine can't be controlled and must be power-cycled.

    If I try
    bob@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt search rtw_8822bu
    Sorting... Done
    Full Text Search... Done

    nothing is found, not even the existing driver.

    Am I looking with the wrong tool?

    "modinfo rtw_8822bu" will give you some info on the driver, though
    no direct info on how it was installed. On Debian (not RPiOS) I see
    there are similar modules starting with "rtw88_" installed with the
    base, but no "rtw_8822bu.ko". rtw88 apparantly supports your
    TP-Link Archer T3U RTL8812BU device:

    https://deepwiki.com/lwfinger/rtw88/1.1-supported-hardware

    Check if you have rtw88 drivers already installed:
    cd /lib/modules
    find -name 'rtw88*'

    If so, maybe you just need to blacklist the rtw_8822bu driver to
    use them? Unless the rtw88 driver is used already and it wrongly
    logs as "rtw_8822bu", in which case the "modinfo rtw_8822bu"
    command will fail, and look at the output of "lsmod" to see
    exactly which "rtw" module/s are being used.

    --
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    #_ < |\| |< _#

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  • From Anssi Saari@3:633/10 to All on Wed Jan 14 13:49:35 2026
    bp@www.zefox.net writes:

    The wifi dongle works but not well. When the wireless connection gets
    dodgy the entire USB system, including keyboard and trackpad, slow to
    the point that the machine can't be controlled and must be power-cycled.

    Could that be more of a power issue? Dongle draws more power and your
    PSU can't keep up? I remember the early Pis had some questionable design
    WRT power, basically you'd want your PSU to be able to provide something
    like 5.2 volts.

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  • From bp@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 10:00:02 2026
    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net writes:

    The wifi dongle works but not well. When the wireless connection gets
    dodgy the entire USB system, including keyboard and trackpad, slow to
    the point that the machine can't be controlled and must be power-cycled.

    Could that be more of a power issue? Dongle draws more power and your
    PSU can't keep up? I remember the early Pis had some questionable design
    WRT power, basically you'd want your PSU to be able to provide something
    like 5.2 volts.

    From what I gather the 5.2 volt requirement applies to Pi5 with
    internal WiFi. This is a Pi2B with no internal WiFi.

    The dongle is on a powered hub (part of a Dell monitor with a built-in
    hub). The hub is putting out 5.12 volts with the WiFi dongle active.
    The WiFi dongle is on a short USB-A extension cable to allow positioning
    for best reception, which varies wildly over a few inches.

    There's a fairly clear correlation between WiFi signal quality declining
    and the keyboar/trackpad becoming unresponsive. It tends to happen in the evening and I'm guessing it's interference with neighbor's access points,
    which are abundant.

    It does appear that the firmware-realtek package can be upgraded, but trying sudo apt upgrade realtek-firmware
    reported that upgrade does not take arguments.

    It appears that I need to use
    sudo apt install --only-upgrade firmware-realtek
    but I haven't tried it yet. Can anybody confirm this is the correct command? I'd rather not alter anything else right now.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska



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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Thu Jan 15 10:00:02 2026
    On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 16:13:35 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

    There's a fairly clear correlation between WiFi signal quality
    declining and the keyboar/trackpad becoming unresponsive. It tends
    to happen in the evening and I'm guessing it's interference with
    neighbor's access points, which are abundant.

    The obvious way to narrow this down would be to try a wired keyboard
    and mouse, as alternatives to your wireless ones.

    Alway try to reduce the number of variables involved.

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