• Re: Please stop

    From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Feb 24 04:11:00 2024
    On 23.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <GZPQGm1LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    On 23.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
    wrote:

    Subject: ChatGPT comments...

    Please stop.

    If anyone wants some robot arranging words in some essay on any of
    these subjects, I'm sure they can find out how to do it.

    Well let's see what scraping the Internet results in.

    Let's anyone who wants to see it ask the robot themselves, and not dump
    it here unasked.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Feb 25 03:31:36 2024
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <GZPQY65aczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:

    Let's anyone who wants to see it ask the robot themselves, and
    not dump it here unasked.

    Oi! Articles are worth discussing.

    Why don't you write YOUR opinions on those issues so? You have
    actually watched Doctor Who episodes so you should be able to do
    better than a piece of software.

    In theory...

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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Feb 25 04:35:00 2024
    On 24.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <GZPQY65aczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    On 23.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
    wrote:
    In article <GZPQGm1LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    On 23.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
    wrote:

    Subject: ChatGPT comments...

    Please stop.

    If anyone wants some robot arranging words in some essay on any of
    these subjects, I'm sure they can find out how to do it.

    Well let's see what scraping the Internet results in.

    Let's anyone who wants to see it ask the robot themselves, and not
    dump it here unasked.

    Oi! Articales are worth discussing.

    What articles? It's just a bunch of words arranged by some computer
    program, no real person involved. Not worth reading.

    In other words: Just more noise from you.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Feb 25 19:40:00 2024
    On 25.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <GZTQxaxLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    In article <GZPQGm1LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:

    Subject: ChatGPT comments...

    Please stop.

    What articles? It's just a bunch of words arranged by some computer
    program, no real person involved. Not worth reading.

    In other words: Just more noise from you.

    IYIO.

    I guess that means In Your Inspired Opinion.

    It's certainly in my never humbe opinion.

    And it's certainly not from any real person, so no one to reply to and
    talk about it. Why bother read it? Why post it here?

    I might as well count the bumps on my woodchip wallpaper, and start
    drawing circles around one or the other, then post pictures of it here
    so you can all admire me interacting with a non-entity.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Feb 26 05:04:00 2024
    On 25.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <GZXRIbqqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    On 25.02.24, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
    wrote:
    In article <GZTQxaxLczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
    In article <GZPQGm1LczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:

    Subject: ChatGPT comments...

    Please stop.

    What articles? It's just a bunch of words arranged by some
    computer program, no real person involved. Not worth reading.

    In other words: Just more noise from you.

    IYIO.

    I guess that means In Your Inspired Opinion.

    It's certainly in my never humbe opinion.

    The send I is the opposite of Humble.

    You mean second?

    So, inspired, important, irrisistible,...

    And it's certainly not from any real person, so no one to reply to
    and talk about it. Why bother read it? Why post it here?

    I might as well count the bumps on my woodchip wallpaper, and start
    drawing circles around one or the other, then post pictures of it
    here so you can all admire me interacting with a non-entity.

    Or is it based on what people think?

    Oh, you don't even know?

    If you had asked people, you could provide some data on who you asked.
    That's missing, if any texts by people were involved at all, and not
    texts posted by people quoting robots, who had assembled texts from
    quoting other robots or their own previous texts,...

    You're posting stuff you don't even know the source of.

    You're not posting _your_ ideas.

    Wait, why am I even trying to reason with you. I already know you're completely insane.

    I thought I could still just talk with you, kindly, what with you not
    knowing what you're doing. But if you keep spamming this nonsense, all
    that spam will be deleted on arrival, before I even see it.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Feb 26 20:09:00 2024
    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    Aaah, those posts from xsnews still don't get here!

    You're posting stuff you don't even know the source of.

    I assume Doctor Who fans are responsible for inputting that stuff,
    as Chat-GPT doesn't make it up.

    Could be Doctor Who haters, or random people who know nothing about the series. Could be purple tentacles posting from Pluto.

    But with no sources quoted it just becomes irrelevant in the big
    scheme of things.

    Yep. My point exactly.

    As Dave posts it but he doesn't even say if he agrees with it or not!

    There's that.

    Wait, why am I even trying to reason with you. I already know
    you're completely insane.

    That didn't take long!!!

    I established that a week or two ago, I think after he posted some
    religious nuttery.

    I thought I could still just talk with you, kindly, what with you
    not knowing what you're doing. But if you keep spamming this
    nonsense, all that spam will be deleted on arrival, before I even
    see it.

    We all go through that stage...

    Not sure, I see some people carrying on some feud, as if that would
    actually change anything. (Well, all it affects is what _they_ look
    like.)

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Feb 26 23:25:52 2024
    Mickmane wrote:

    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    Aaah, those posts from xsnews still don't get here!

    Speak to your news admin...

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Feb 26 23:38:30 2024
    Mickmane wrote:

    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    As Dave posts it but he doesn't even say if he agrees with it
    or not!

    There's that.

    I think if Dave posted a one paragraph CHAT-GPT article and then
    wrote why he agreed or disagreed with it, that would be something.
    But he just cuts-and-pastes and dumps it here...



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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Feb 27 06:38:00 2024
    On 26.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    As Dave posts it but he doesn't even say if he agrees with it
    or not!

    There's that.

    I think if Dave posted a one paragraph CHAT-GPT article and then
    wrote why he agreed or disagreed with it, that would be something.
    But he just cuts-and-pastes and dumps it here...

    Very true.

    A pile of sterile nothing. Well, I give up trying to get him to
    understand that. Killfile it is.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Feb 27 20:16:00 2024
    On 27.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    Aaah, those posts from xsnews still don't get here!

    Speak to your news admin...

    I did, right now he's too busy with his real world job to spend time to investigate.

    (This newsserver thing is a hobby of him.)

    Will have to wait until he finds time, or you just only post from
    indigo. :)

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Feb 28 04:46:00 2024
    On 27.02.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote on 26/2/24 8:09 pm:
    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    Aaah, those posts from xsnews still don't get here!

    You're posting stuff you don't even know the source of.

    I assume Doctor Who fans are responsible for inputting that stuff,
    as Chat-GPT doesn't make it up.

    Could be Doctor Who haters, or random people who know nothing about
    the series. Could be purple tentacles posting from Pluto.

    Isn't Chat-GPT an 'AI' computer program thinkee where you give it a
    few basic ideas/suggestion and a required Document length (i.e. Word
    count) and IT spits out the end product??

    I don't know. I imagine it gets a subject, and then spits out irrelevant blah.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Feb 28 07:39:58 2024
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 27.02.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Isn't Chat-GPT an 'AI' computer program thinkee where you give
    it a few basic ideas/suggestion and a required Document length
    (i.e. Word count) and IT spits out the end product??

    I don't know. I imagine it gets a subject, and then spits out
    irrelevant blah.

    Are we on about Chat-GPT or Dave?

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Feb 28 09:01:06 2024
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oikym4do1b63001@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    He's in Canada, their English is different... those parts that do
    English that is! (I was at a Hockey game in Canada once and they
    sang the Canadian national anthem in French!)

    You must have been in Montreal!

    Indeed I was... Blueshirt was at the Bell Centre watching the
    Blueshirts!

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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Feb 28 17:43:00 2024
    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 27.02.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Isn't Chat-GPT an 'AI' computer program thinkee where you give
    it a few basic ideas/suggestion and a required Document length
    (i.e. Word count) and IT spits out the end product??

    I don't know. I imagine it gets a subject, and then spits out
    irrelevant blah.

    Are we on about Chat-GPT or Dave?

    Chat-GTP orwhateveritsname. (Oddly, I keep remembering it as this.)

    Though I guess in this case it's doctor giving it the subject.

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Feb 28 17:41:00 2024
    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 27.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    In article <xn0oii6ahau6qxi008@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    Aaah, those posts from xsnews still don't get here!

    Speak to your news admin...

    I did, right now he's too busy with his real world job to spend
    time to investigate.

    (This newsserver thing is a hobby of him.)

    It's a good hobby, but he should at least investigate why his spam
    filters are stopping messages that get peered everywhere else...

    Oddly, this got here. Maybe he did! :)

    Will have to wait until he finds time, or you just only post from
    indigo. :)

    If I could turn the clock back twenty years I would!!! :-)

    What's the difference between the two anyway?

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Feb 29 01:05:23 2024
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oil25fdspyqw002@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <xn0oikym4do1b63001@reader.xsnews.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    He's in Canada, their English is different... those parts
    that do English that is! (I was at a Hockey game in Canada
    once and they sang the Canadian national anthem in French!)

    You must have been in Montreal!

    Indeed I was... Blueshirt was at the Bell Centre watching the
    Blueshirts!

    An not the tri-coleurs!

    Non!


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Feb 29 01:26:24 2024
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's a good hobby, but he should at least investigate why his
    spam filters are stopping messages that get peered everywhere
    else...

    Oddly, this got here. Maybe he did! :)

    What's the difference between the two anyway?

    There is no reason that any Usenet message - that is not obvious
    spam - sent from any service should not get peered through any
    specific nntp server beyond possible spam filters - like CleanFeed -
    flagging it as a false positive. In this case, it's probably
    whatever service you are using as the relevant message was
    propagated elsewhere and replied to by people here.

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Feb 29 01:41:32 2024
    Daniel65 wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote on 28/2/24 7:39 am:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 27.02.24, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Isn't Chat-GPT an 'AI' computer program thinkee where you
    give it a few basic ideas/suggestion and a required Document
    length (i.e. Word count) and IT spits out the end product??

    I don't know. I imagine it gets a subject, and then spits out
    irrelevant blah.

    Are we on about Chat-GPT or Dave?

    Hang on .... I've gotta get a coin to toss!!

    Maybe we'll refer to it as Dave-GPT ?!

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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Feb 29 07:07:00 2024
    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:
    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's a good hobby, but he should at least investigate why his
    spam filters are stopping messages that get peered everywhere
    else...

    Oddly, this got here. Maybe he did! :)

    What's the difference between the two anyway?

    There is no reason that any Usenet message - that is not obvious
    spam - sent from any service should not get peered through any
    specific nntp server beyond possible spam filters - like CleanFeed -
    flagging it as a false positive. In this case, it's probably
    whatever service you are using as the relevant message was
    propagated elsewhere and replied to by people here.

    I mean on your end, where's the difference between xnews and indigo?

    --

    Mickmane


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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Mar 3 04:25:39 2024
    Mickmane wrote:

    On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    What's the difference between the two anyway?

    There is no reason that any Usenet message - that is not
    obvious spam - sent from any service should not get peered
    through any specific nntp server beyond possible spam
    filters - like CleanFeed - flagging it as a false positive.
    In this case, it's probably whatever service you are using
    as the relevant message was propagated elsewhere and replied
    to by people here.

    I mean on your end, where's the difference between xnews and
    indigo?

    Short answer in plain language... they are different Usenet
    service providers that use different servers. Which means
    messages take different routes through loads of smaller systems
    as the messages are distributed... each [nntp] server a message
    passes through has it's own spam filters, which could
    occasionally flag some messages as 'false positives'.


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  • From Mickmane@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Mar 4 08:07:00 2024
    On 03.03.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Mickmane wrote:

    I mean on your end, where's the difference between xnews and
    indigo?

    Short answer in plain language... they are different Usenet
    service providers that use different servers. Which means
    messages take different routes through loads of smaller systems
    as the messages are distributed... each [nntp] server a message
    passes through has it's own spam filters, which could
    occasionally flag some messages as 'false positives'.

    Thanks! :)

    --

    Mickmane


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