• Re: Genesis of the Humans

    From The True Doctor@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Jul 6 06:00:18 2025
    On 05/07/2025 15:40, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 05/07/2025 11:36, Blueshirt wrote:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    That doesn't change the fact that Time Lords can't change
    gender during regeneration. Fiction has to be as constant
    as reality in order to be believed.

    That opinion is fine if that's what you believe, but it can't
    be a fact as we have already seen Time Lords change their
    gender whilst regenerating on-screen... so your opinion on
    it counts for

    No we have not. That was deranged fan fiction like the moon
    hatching into a giant space dragon which flew away with 90% of
    it's mass and then with only 10% of its mass remaining in the
    broken shell it all came back together within seconds and
    looked and weight exactly the same as it did before.

    You really didn't like that episode, did you?!

    nothing as it has already happened. We can't unsee it now!

    Everything from Kill The Moon onwards can be considered to be
    cannon.


    I meant "...can not be considered to be canon."

    It can, by you or anyone. As there is no official BBC Doctor Who
    canon so you can include or exclude anything you like. (I do.)

    A bit like bi-generation... I think it was a stupid idea but

    Totally deranged fan fiction.

    I'll stick with stupid idea.


    It's not canon.

    it's happened and been seen to happen in "The Giggle"... so
    it is what it is. Believable fiction or not it has now
    become part of "Doctor Who" lore.

    No it has not. Doctor Who had already ended by the time that
    piece of degeneration fan fiction was written by RTD on LSD.

    <rolls eyes>

    Just when I thought you were starting to takes things
    seriously...

    It is not canon.
    --
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  • From Your Name@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Jul 6 08:27:28 2025
    On 2025-07-05 10:36:42 +0000, Blueshirt said:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    On 28/06/2025 00:21, solar penguin wrote:

    The True loon lectured:

    And neither is a Time Lord changing gender during
    regeneration.

    Nobody ever claimed Time Lords were any kind of fact. We’re
    all aware they’re fictional.

    That doesn't change the fact that Time Lords can't change
    gender during regeneration. Fiction has to be as constant as
    reality in order to be believed.

    That opinion is fine if that's what you believe, but it can't
    be a fact as we have already seen Time Lords change their gender
    whilst regenerating on-screen...

    Only because the idiot RTD purposely did it to jump on the Politically
    Correct bandagon (as well as appeasing BBC "equality" checklists), so
    he lazily hijacked an existing character rather than actually do
    something creative like make a brand new character.

    RTD Wanted Doctor Who to Move Away from “Very Straight,
    Masculine, and Testosterone-y” Sci-Fi
    Reflecting on his recent work with Doctor Who, showrunner
    Russell T Davies revealed that one of his driving goals
    since taking the reins again was to steer the show away
    from what he called “very straight, very masculine, very
    testosterone-y” science fiction.

    <https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/doctor-who-rtd-testosterone-scifi-105852.htm>




    so your opinion on it counts for nothing as it has already happened.
    We can't unsee it now!

    A bit like bi-generation... I think it was a stupid idea but
    it's happened and been seen to happen in "The Giggle"... so it
    is what it is. Believable fiction or not it has now become part
    of "Doctor Who" lore.



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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Jul 6 19:41:44 2025
    Your Name wrote:

    On 2025-07-05 10:36:42 +0000, Blueshirt said:

    The True Doctor wrote:

    That doesn't change the fact that Time Lords can't change
    gender during regeneration. Fiction has to be as constant
    as reality in order to be believed.

    That opinion is fine if that's what you believe, but it can't
    be a fact as we have already seen Time Lords change their
    gender whilst regenerating on-screen...

    Only because the idiot RTD purposely did it to jump on the
    Politically Correct bandagon (as well as appeasing BBC
    "equality" checklists), so he lazily hijacked an existing
    character rather than actually do something creative like make
    a brand new character.

    We can blame RTD for a lot of things but he didn't bring the
    Time Lord's gender-swapping regenerations into the show. That
    was Steven Moffat... who introduced Missy and also gave us the
    on-screen regeneration of the General from male to female in
    "Hell Bent". Then Chris Chibnall followed it up with Jodie
    Whittaker's Doctor.

    Although RTD will probably be disappointed that he missed out
    on that progressive tick-boxing, but to compensate he did gender
    swap Jodie Whittaker's Doctor in to David Tennant. Which funnily
    enough, nobody seemed to mind!

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  • From Your Name@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jul 7 08:41:15 2025
    On 2025-07-06 09:41:44 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Your Name wrote:
    On 2025-07-05 10:36:42 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    The True Doctor wrote:

    That doesn't change the fact that Time Lords can't change
    gender during regeneration. Fiction has to be as constant
    as reality in order to be believed.

    That opinion is fine if that's what you believe, but it can't
    be a fact as we have already seen Time Lords change their
    gender whilst regenerating on-screen...

    Only because the idiot RTD purposely did it to jump on the
    Politically Correct bandwagon (as well as appeasing BBC
    "equality" checklists), so he lazily hijacked an existing
    character rather than actually do something creative like make
    a brand new character.

    We can blame RTD for a lot of things but he didn't bring the
    Time Lord's gender-swapping regenerations into the show. That
    was Steven Moffat... who introduced Missy and also gave us the
    on-screen regeneration of the General from male to female in
    "Hell Bent". Then Chris Chibnall followed it up with Jodie
    Whittaker's Doctor.

    Although RTD will probably be disappointed that he missed out
    on that progressive tick-boxing, but to compensate he did gender
    swap Jodie Whittaker's Doctor in to David Tennant. Which funnily
    enough, nobody seemed to mind!

    By then nobody with any sense was still bothering to watch the mess
    anyway. :-p



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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 9 03:31:28 2025
    Daniel70 wrote:

    On 7/07/2025 5:59 am, Blueshirt wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 6/07/2025 6:23 am, Blueshirt wrote:

    I am not Daniel, I ignore typos!

    Hey!! Be nice!!

    I was being nice!!!

    I didn't put you in my killfile with the others did I?! ;-)

    Thank you.

    Don't be polite when people use sarcastic humour! Hit
    back and say "I didn't put you in my killfile either!"

    Nice people get nowhere...

    :-)

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  • From Blueshirt@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 00:58:43 2025
    solar penguin wrote:


    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    solar penguin wrote:

    Exodus of the Daleks

    Numbers of the Daleks

    Judges of the Daleks

    [Snip]

    You forgot;

    Wisdom of the Daleks.

    Sorry, I’ve only just realised… Are you saying the Daleks are
    Catholic?

    Er... <gulp> do you mean that they're not?

    I thought Terry Nation used Christianity as his basis for Daleks?

    You know; Davros is like the Pope, the supreme leader. So the
    Daleks follow the true religion, as preached by their pontiff.
    Whilst the Thals are the prods, rejecting the true word and
    thinking their way is the right way.

    (How do they cross themselves with a plunger?)

    You can't see what the mutants are doing inside their travel
    machine! All you are seeing is a casing. Trying to make out
    that faithful Daleks are not following the correct rituals is
    blasphemy!

    If we're gonna do it... we might as well do it right! ;-)

    That’s why I tried to keep my choices to books that are in
    all versions of Christianity.

    You mean... Christianity has different versions? How weird. I
    mean, you either believe in Jewsus or you don't. What
    differences could there possibly be?


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  • From Your Name@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 07:03:30 2025
    On 2025-07-10 14:58:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    solar penguin wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    solar penguin wrote:

    Exodus of the Daleks

    Numbers of the Daleks

    Judges of the Daleks

    [Snip]

    You forgot;

    Wisdom of the Daleks.

    Sorry, I’ve only just realised… Are you saying the Daleks are
    Catholic?

    Er... <gulp> do you mean that they're not?

    I thought Terry Nation used Christianity as his basis for Daleks?

    You know; Davros is like the Pope, the supreme leader. So the
    Daleks follow the true religion, as preached by their pontiff.
    Whilst the Thals are the prods, rejecting the true word and
    thinking their way is the right way.

    Yep, and the Daleks go around trying to exterminate anyone that
    doesn't follow their own blinkered belief, just like the so-called
    Christians did in the Middle Ages. (Not that any of the other nonsense religions are any more forgiving either.)




    (How do they cross themselves with a plunger?)

    You can't see what the mutants are doing inside their travel
    machine! All you are seeing is a casing. Trying to make out
    that faithful Daleks are not following the correct rituals is
    blasphemy!

    If we're gonna do it... we might as well do it right! ;-)

    That’s why I tried to keep my choices to books that are in
    all versions of Christianity.

    You mean... Christianity has different versions? How weird. I
    mean, you either believe in Jewsus or you don't. What
    differences could there possibly be?

    It depends on how you define the groupings.

    There are 7 or 12 major branches of "Christianity", but there are an
    estimated 45,000 (yes, forty-five thousand) 'Christian' beliefs around
    the world, each with their own difference slant on what is "true".
    There are around 200 different versions in the USA.

    There are also seven different major branches of Islam, and again can
    be sub-dived to at least 73 different versions.

    There are three or four major branches of Judaism, which can be
    sub-divided into about 27 different versions.

    Of course Islam, Judaism and Christianity are themselves all just
    different branches of the same nonsense religious belief.


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  • From Your Name@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 12 08:46:14 2025
    On 2025-07-11 08:50:12 +0000, solar penguin said:
    The asswipe asked:
    In article <104phpg$13qni$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
    The asswipe asked:
    In article <104ogfe$spvv$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    That’s why I tried to keep my choices to books that are in
    *all* versions of Christianity.

    What about

    Matthew of the Daleks?

    If you’re going to include proper names, start with Joshua and
    continue from there.

    What about Judges of the Daleks?

    What about it? Judges isn’t a personal name. You don’t get
    people called Judges Smith or Judges Brown, do you?

    (Anyway, I already said that one.)

    "Judges" perhaps not. It depends on local laws around names of babies,
    but in some places (mainly USA and UK) there are people with the name
    "Judge" as either a forename or a surname. <https://www.ancestry.com/first-name-meaning/judge>



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