• Re: Channel Drift

    From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 21 18:30:42 2022
    In article <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers
    Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Jerry Brown@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 02:07:21 2022
    On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 04:30:42 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    In article <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers >>>Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    May His Shadow fall upon you.

    --
    Jerry Brown

    A cat may look at a king
    (but probably won't bother)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 05:26:37 2022
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers >>>Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    It's not my place to tell Usenet users whom to associate with and whose articles to post followups to. I will point out further antics from
    Ubi the Shithead. You can decide for yourself if continuing to post
    followups to Ubi is troll feeding and if he's truly your friend.

    In this thread,

    Subject: Channel Drift

    I had posted an article.

    Message-ID: <tb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>

    I didn't crosspost. I didn't set Followup-To. Anyone on Usenet who knows
    me is well aware that I almost never do either, especially not in a
    thread in which the crossposting and setting of Followup-To is due to Ubi-the-shithead's antics and not the author of the root article in the
    thread.

    Ubi forged an article from me once again.

    Message-ID: <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>

    Note that the two Message IDs are off by one character.

    One may create one's own Message IDs in the newsreader. I don't do that.
    I allow eternal september to create them for me. If the user creates his
    own Message ID, it must be in valid syntax and unique and MUST NOT forge
    an association with another domain. Ray Banana, the News administrator
    of eternal-september, registered that domain. Ubi MUST NOT use it.

    In Ubi's forgery, the article is crossposted but Ubi the shithead is
    quite stupid and included a newsgroup that doesn't exist. He then set Followup-To crossposted to four newsgroups.

    He also preloaded the Injection headers to pretend the article was still
    the one posted through eternal-september instead of Giganews.

    Giganews has allowed Ubi to forge other Usenet users for years and to
    inject articles that violate standards such as these with the pre-loaded Injection headers. I don't know why they didn't stop Ubi years ago. They
    ignore all abuse reports.

    You may wonder why all these articles these threads exist in rec.arts.tv
    at all. They were started by a common author, the Usenet shill.

    From: Terrence Clay <tmc1982@gmail.com>

    fwiw, Terrence doesn't post his own content and nearly never
    participates in discussion except to deny shilling, but Terrence does
    not crosspost. From the root article:

    Message-ID: <457617d0-989a-4348-8bbf-11c6e45d03den@googlegroups.com> Newsgroups: alt.tv.mtv

    Ubi forged Terrence Clay and crossposted. We can read Ubi's forgery in rec.arts.tv but not the precursor article without reading it in
    alt.tv.mtv.

    Message-ID: <n457617d0-989a-4348-8bbf-11c6e45d03den@googlegroups.com> Newsgroups: alt.tv.mtv,alt.tv.scifi.channel,rec.arts.tv

    Ubi is no one's friend. He's a troll. He forges. His forgeries tend to
    violate Usenet syntax in a serious manner desiged to prevent forgeries,
    so it's all Abuse of Usenet that really should get Ubi TOSsed from every
    Usenet server he uses, but it doesn't.

    Just because Giganews allows Ubi to get away with this behavior doesn't
    mean you should. Don't post followups to Ubi's forgeries ever. Don't
    post followups to articles Ubi posts that aren't forgeries. Just deny
    him the attention he craves so desperately.

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  • From super70s@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 06:53:36 2022
    In article <tbc99d$2ic2f$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Giganews has allowed Ubi to forge other Usenet users for years and to
    inject articles that violate standards such as these with the pre-loaded Injection headers. I don't know why they didn't stop Ubi years ago. They ignore all abuse reports.

    I remember an infamous Usenet mega-flooder and stalker named Bob Milby
    using some kind of third party auto-post software he might have
    developed on his own used to post through Giganews. He'd probably still
    be doing it if he hadn't allegedly died 8 or 10 years ago.

    As long as you're willing to pay Giganews some monthly fee (kinda stupid
    to pay anybody for Usenet IMO) they apparently don't care what their
    users do. They're even more irresponsible than that infamous
    dizum/neodome troller's outfit.

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  • From suzeeq@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 07:12:10 2022
    On 7/21/2022 12:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers
    Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    It's not my place to tell Usenet users whom to associate with and whose articles to post followups to. I will point out further antics from
    Ubi the Shithead. You can decide for yourself if continuing to post
    followups to Ubi is troll feeding and if he's truly your friend.

    In this thread,

    Subject: Channel Drift

    I had posted an article.

    Message-ID: <tb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>

    I didn't crosspost. I didn't set Followup-To. Anyone on Usenet who knows
    me is well aware that I almost never do either, especially not in a
    thread in which the crossposting and setting of Followup-To is due to Ubi-the-shithead's antics and not the author of the root article in the thread.

    Ubi forged an article from me once again.

    Message-ID: <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>

    Note that the two Message IDs are off by one character.

    One may create one's own Message IDs in the newsreader. I don't do that.
    I allow eternal september to create them for me. If the user creates his
    own Message ID, it must be in valid syntax and unique and MUST NOT forge
    an association with another domain. Ray Banana, the News administrator
    of eternal-september, registered that domain. Ubi MUST NOT use it.

    In Ubi's forgery, the article is crossposted but Ubi the shithead is
    quite stupid and included a newsgroup that doesn't exist. He then set Followup-To crossposted to four newsgroups.

    He also preloaded the Injection headers to pretend the article was still
    the one posted through eternal-september instead of Giganews.

    Giganews has allowed Ubi to forge other Usenet users for years and to
    inject articles that violate standards such as these with the pre-loaded Injection headers. I don't know why they didn't stop Ubi years ago. They ignore all abuse reports.

    You may wonder why all these articles these threads exist in rec.arts.tv
    at all. They were started by a common author, the Usenet shill.

    From: Terrence Clay <tmc1982@gmail.com>

    fwiw, Terrence doesn't post his own content and nearly never
    participates in discussion except to deny shilling, but Terrence does
    not crosspost. From the root article:

    Message-ID: <457617d0-989a-4348-8bbf-11c6e45d03den@googlegroups.com> Newsgroups: alt.tv.mtv

    Ubi forged Terrence Clay and crossposted. We can read Ubi's forgery in rec.arts.tv but not the precursor article without reading it in
    alt.tv.mtv.

    Message-ID: <n457617d0-989a-4348-8bbf-11c6e45d03den@googlegroups.com> Newsgroups: alt.tv.mtv,alt.tv.scifi.channel,rec.arts.tv

    Ubi is no one's friend. He's a troll. He forges. His forgeries tend to violate Usenet syntax in a serious manner desiged to prevent forgeries,
    so it's all Abuse of Usenet that really should get Ubi TOSsed from every Usenet server he uses, but it doesn't.

    Just because Giganews allows Ubi to get away with this behavior doesn't
    mean you should. Don't post followups to Ubi's forgeries ever. Don't
    post followups to articles Ubi posts that aren't forgeries. Just deny
    him the attention he craves so desperately.

    I KF'd him a while back.

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  • From Joe Bernstein@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 10:01:42 2022
    In article <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
    In article <n457617d0-989a-4348-8bbf-11c6e45d03den@googlegroups.com>, >><tmc1982@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?



    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers
    Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    good times...


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 18:30:45 2022
    In article <tbc99d$2ic2f$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too
    expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers
    Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    It's not my place to tell Usenet users whom to associate with and whose >articles to post followups to. I will point out further antics from
    Ubi the Shithead. You can decide for yourself if continuing to post
    followups to Ubi is troll feeding and if he's truly your friend.

    [Paranoid hysterical conspiratorial rantings deleted]

    Trolling? That's pretty funny, coming from you!

    (I am pretty sure you have claimed to have killfiled me on multiple occassions, including the time I offered condolences for your dog.)

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 18:30:46 2022
    In article <tbcffb$h355$3@solani.org>, suzee@imbris.com wrote:

    I KF'd him a while back.

    Yet you managed to post a followup to me last week...

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 21:33:07 2022
    jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <nb4m1f$jv6t$1@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift
    away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too >>>>expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers >>>>Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy
    was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    May His Shadow fall upon you.

    “May His merciful Shadow fall upon you.”

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Ubiquitous@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 22 18:40:46 2022
    In article <tbcffb$h355$3@solani.org>, suzee@imbris.com wrote:

    I KF'd him a while back.

    Yet you managed to post a followup to me last week...

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Jul 23 00:29:06 2022
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    ahk@chinet.com wrote:
    A Friend wrote:
    tmc1982@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/channel-drift.751516/

    What was the reason(s) for a channel such as MTV or SyFy to drift >>>>>>away from its original channel model and direction?

    In MTV's case, nobody was making videos anymore. They were too >>>>>expensive and didn't affect music sales.

    SyFy has always been a mess, even back when it was the Buck Rogers >>>>>Channel.

    Some of my favorite SF programs were on USA. The better stuff on Syfy >>>>was usually foreign programming.

    Lexx will always be a fav of mine.

    It's not my place to tell Usenet users whom to associate with and whose >>articles to post followups to. I will point out further antics from
    Ubi the Shithead. You can decide for yourself if continuing to post >>followups to Ubi is troll feeding and if he's truly your friend.

    [Paranoid hysterical conspiratorial rantings deleted]

    Ubi, I presented evidence demonstrated that you have been forging
    Terrence Clay repeatedly, and you forged me in this thread. You have
    been posting the forgeries through Giganews. They've been allowing you to
    post forgeries of other people for years. I made an abuse complaint but
    I'm sure it will continue to be ignored.

    It's curious that you didn't deny posting the forgeries through
    Giganews. You didn't address the issue in any way, just snipped the
    quote like the coward that you are.

    Trolling? That's pretty funny, coming from you!

    (I am pretty sure you have claimed to have killfiled me on multiple >occassions, including the time I offered condolences for your dog.)

    Each and every time I catch you forging other people, I do have to read
    your articles' headers. Alas, there is no choice because you are such a shithead.

    [Kerman's incorrect formatting fixed.]

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