Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >have read?
In article <robertaw-178EDB.09533824032024@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,Probably a Brian Herbert novel.
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you
have read?
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >have read?
On 24/03/2024 12.08, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <robertaw-178EDB.09533824032024@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,Probably a Brian Herbert novel.
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>> have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>
That's who immediately came to my mind. It's not really fair in my case, >since, as far as I know, he's the only son of a famous author that I've
read.
<https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?27552>
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>have read?
Are Dune novels off the table for this one?
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >have read?
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you
have read?
Alexey Tolstoy doesn't count since even though he claimed to be the son of the Count, he probably wasn't. [snip]
On 3/24/2024 1:41 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>> have read?
Alexey Tolstoy doesn't count since even though he claimed to be the son of >> the Count, he probably wasn't. [snip]
I don't think it matters whether Alexey Tolstoy was Count Nikolai
Tolstoy's biological father. Nikolai didn't write fiction.
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar >adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
In article <robertaw-178EDB.09533824032024@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >have read?
Probably a Brian Herbert novel.
In article <utpmlu$t1p$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
In article <robertaw-178EDB.09533824032024@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,Probably a Brian Herbert novel.
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >> >have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >> >> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >> >
I haven't read any of the Pern continuations written by McCaffery's son >Todd. I have wondered how good/bad they are.
On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:45 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
Also, Amazon.ca did indeed try to spell check Justin Lieber to Justin
Bieber. But it's easy to get past that.
However, the results for the right name didn't include this book, even
though the entry for it
https://www.amazon.ca/Beyond-Rejection-Justin-Leiber/dp/B000FMIA7S/
did have the right author's name.
In article <utpnrc$3ah$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>> have read?
Are Dune novels off the table for this one?
My 10th anniversary of the last fuck awful Dune book I'd ever have to read went by in March, I think.
On 3/24/2024 1:41 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <utpnrc$3ah$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>>> have read?
Are Dune novels off the table for this one?
My 10th anniversary of the last fuck awful Dune book I'd ever have to read >> went by in March, I think.
You're the skipping 'Heroes of Dune' tetrology, by Brian Herbert and
Kevin J. Anderson? Book 3, "Princess of Dune", came out last October,
and you have at least one more dose of duney Duness on the way.
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin Leiber
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged
to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references
So what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you
have read?
In article <utsuim$1bofd$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/2024 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>> have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>
I enjoyed the Heinlein book that Spider Robinson finished, "Variable Star". >> https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Star-Tor-Science-Fiction/dp/0765351684/ >>
Interesting! Somehow I never heard of that. I'll put it on the wish list.
On 3/25/2024 8:54 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <utsuim$1bofd$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire˙ <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/2024 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
˙˙ jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>>
you
have read?
I enjoyed the Heinlein book that Spider Robinson finished, "Variable
Star".
https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Star-Tor-Science-Fiction/dp/0765351684/
Interesting!˙ Somehow I never heard of that.˙ I'll put it on the wish
list.
There were two books found after Heinlein's death.˙ The first was
"Variable Star" which was unfinished, an early work, and Spider Robinson finished it.˙ It was published in 2006 I think.
The other book is "The Pursuit of the Pankera: A Parallel Novel About Parallel Universes" which was completed before "The Number Of The Beast"
and put into Heinlein's things for some reason.˙ It was found and
published in 2019.˙ I have bought it but not read it yet as I am
thinking about how reread the books starting with "I Will Fear No Evil".
˙I read "The Number Of The Beast" back in 1983 or 1985.
https://www.amazon.com/Pursuit-Pankera-Parallel-Novel-Universes/dp/1647100291/
and
˙˙ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Number_of_the_Beast_(novel)
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
and his successors.
I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the
reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better
than anything the rest of the world could offer.
In article <utsuim$1bofd$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/2024 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>> have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>
I enjoyed the Heinlein book that Spider Robinson finished, "Variable Star". >> https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Star-Tor-Science-Fiction/dp/0765351684/ >>
Interesting! Somehow I never heard of that. I'll put it on the wish list.
Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the
slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
and his successors.
I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but
only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in
the previous century.
In article <l6eo67FmaumU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
In article <utsuim$1bofd$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/2024 11:53 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>>> have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>>
I enjoyed the Heinlein book that Spider Robinson finished, "Variable Star". >>> https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Star-Tor-Science-Fiction/dp/0765351684/ >>>
Interesting! Somehow I never heard of that. I'll put it on the wish list.
I wasn't impressed by it at all, but I think it's worth reading just for >completeness.
Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the
slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
and his successors.
I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but
only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in
the previous century.
The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad"
I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the
reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better
than anything the rest of the world could offer.
A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a
weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was >crossed.
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:58:24 +0000, John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the
slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
and his successors.
I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but
only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in
the previous century.
The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad"
I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the
reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better
than anything the rest of the world could offer.
A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a
weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was
crossed.
I came to the conclusion that "visiting the relatives" and "real
vacation" were not the same thing (except, of course, in my family) --
but I didn't think you had to cross an ocean to have a real vacation.
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 3/27/2024 12:15 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:58:24 +0000, John
<john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the >>>>> slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson
and his successors.
I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but >>>> only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in >>>> the previous century.
The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad"
I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the
reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better >>>>> than anything the rest of the world could offer.
A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a >>>> weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was >>>> crossed.
I came to the conclusion that "visiting the relatives" and "real
vacation" were not the same thing (except, of course, in my family) --
but I didn't think you had to cross an ocean to have a real vacation.
I've long used the term 'oblication' to describe the trips you Must Take
even if you'd rather go somewhere new.
I've been to Silicon Valley to visit my mother more times than I can
remember, and my wife and I have pretty well run out of sites to visit.
I've lived there for three decades and still haven't visited
every site of interest within a 180 minute drive.
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 3/28/2024 10:07 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
On 3/27/2024 12:15 PM, Paul S Person wrote:I've lived there for three decades and still haven't visited
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 17:58:24 +0000, JohnI've long used the term 'oblication' to describe the trips you Must Take >>>> even if you'd rather go somewhere new.
<john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> writes:
There's also the non-fiction "Tramp Royale" in which RAH pioneers the >>>>>>> slightly snarky travel book decades before the likes of Bill Bryson >>>>>>> and his successors.
I guess you could say he pioneered the slightly snarky travel book, but >>>>>> only because Mark Twain pioneered the *extremely* snarky travel book in >>>>>> the previous century.
The title "Tramp Royale" may even be a wink to "A Tramp Abroad"
I could have done without the final chapter in which he advises the >>>>>>> reader that they might as well travel the USA as its sights are better >>>>>>> than anything the rest of the world could offer.
A deeply Heinlein attitude, although I agree that some Americans have a >>>>>> weird tendency to not view it as a "real" vacation unless an ocean was >>>>>> crossed.
I came to the conclusion that "visiting the relatives" and "real
vacation" were not the same thing (except, of course, in my family) -- >>>>> but I didn't think you had to cross an ocean to have a real vacation. >>>>
I've been to Silicon Valley to visit my mother more times than I can
remember, and my wife and I have pretty well run out of sites to visit. >>>
every site of interest within a 180 minute drive.
Different interests, probably. I have to limit myself to things that
my wife will like too.
Next trip, I'm going to try to squeeze in a visit to the Stanford
Linear Accelerator. Tours are on a pretty limited schedule.
Best excursions have been overnights to Yosemite and Mt Shasta.
Yes, those are nice. I assume you've been to Carmel and Monterey,
but how about Fort Bragg or Avila Beach? Or Pinnacles?
Filoli? Villa Montalvo?
Castle airpark museum (SR-71 and a RAF Vulcan are highlights)?
Northeastern California (Alturas, in the great basin high desert)?
Eureka and Ferndale (there's a redwood tree you can drive through).
You've probably visited the Livermore Labs professionally?
Highway 49 through gold country?
Tahoe.
In article <utpnk5$ftng$2@dont-email.me>,
Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24/03/2024 12.08, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <robertaw-178EDB.09533824032024@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <utp7bl$d3l$1@reader1.panix.com>,Probably a Brian Herbert novel.
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Beyond Rejection (Beyond, volume 1) by Justin LeiberSo what was the worst novel written by a son of a famous author that you >>>> have read?
Revived in the body of a mind-wiped woman, Ishmael Forth is challenged >>>>> to adapt to new circumstances. But first, a two-fisted interstellar
adventure!
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/also-there-are-moby-dick-references >>>>
That's who immediately came to my mind. It's not really fair in my case,
since, as far as I know, he's the only son of a famous author that I've
read.
<https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?27552>
There's Joe Hill but I've not read him. Heard good things about his
books, though.
I like Rothman's The World is Round.
On 3/28/2024 12:18 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
I've lived there for three decades and still haven't visited
every site of interest within a 180 minute drive.
Different interests, probably. I have to limit myself to things that
my wife will like too.
Next trip, I'm going to try to squeeze in a visit to the Stanford
Linear Accelerator. Tours are on a pretty limited schedule.
Best excursions have been overnights to Yosemite and Mt Shasta.
but how about Fort Bragg or Avila Beach? Or Pinnacles?
Nope.
Filoli? Villa Montalvo?
My mom used to be a docent at Filoli, so yes, but not Montalvo
Castle airpark museum (SR-71 and a RAF Vulcan are highlights)?
No, but I've been up close with SF-71s in NYC and DC. I've also
been to the Hiller Air Museum and Moffet Field.
Northeastern California (Alturas, in the great basin high desert)?
I'll look into it. Overnights are a lot rarer than day trips.
Tahoe.
Probably too far.
Others we liked: Pt Reyes, Bolinas, Muir Woods, Big Basin
(worth seeing the near-alien regrowth since the fire),
Santa Cruz (scraping the bottom of the barrel, we even
went to The Mystery Spot, which was surprisingly fun).
Alice's Restaurant and the Skyline Drive,
Buck's in
Woodside, the coastal highway up to Half Moon Bay, the
beaches on that stretch,
Boulder Creek.
Botanical
Gardens in Santa Cruz and Stanford. Santa Barbara,
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